Well, I gave it a go today, and unfortunately, the stem is slightly too short and the bars just the slightest bit too wide an angle for an effective position. Tiller was noticable, but only significant at very low speeds ... less than 5mph. At higher speeds, it was very nice, even if I was scooching forward for the bars a tiny bit. Indeed, it did lower the COG and seemed to make it even more manuverable *and* stable while climbing the extreme grades in my hood at the same time... weird. And as I noticed on my trike, I can breathe more easily and deeply with my hands at my sides. I also think I like the Supinated hand position as opposed to the "hitchhiker" hand position... It was a bit more tricky to get going uphill on a good line, but I suspect this is a learning curve issue... and this was on a good (10%) grade. But hey, I didn;t do the predicted Artie Johnson. I did, however, find that if I slammed on the breaks while unclipping both feet, that i was suddenly standing on the roadway with a 53T Chainring stabbing me in the inside of my thigh. I am sure it looked more deliberate than it felt... This would have been a real unhappy landing on a DF bike, so who am I to complain? Back to the drawing board. I need a longer stem. It there anyone out there with an HPVelotechnic Street machine who can tell me if their stem is a 1"? If so, how long is it in mm? Maybe I can buy one off them. I would even be willing to start calling it "een legfiets" if they would give me a good deal... I am thinking that if I can find a 180mm or so stem, I can make this a really sweet setup. The other option is to buy a steel pipe style stem, cut it and splice a bit more tube onto it. My first impression is that the Giro has the making of a really good USS bike. Randy Niere.