Foldable Recommendations?

Discussion in 'rec.bicycles.rides archive' started by Steve Juniper, Feb 17, 2003.

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    Any recommendations for foldables for traveling from people who have = used them? I'm thinking
    that for some of my traveling that might be = worth considering. Thanx! --=20

    Steve Juniper [email protected]

    "53% of Americans feel that Bush is more of a threat to their = country and freedoms than
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    <DIV> Any recommendations for foldables for traveling = from=20 people who have
    used them? I'm thinking that for some of my traveling = that might=20 be worth
    considering.</DIV>
    <DV> Thanx!<BR>-- <BR></DIV>
    <DVI> </DIV>
    <DVII>Steve Juniper <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A></DIV>
    <DVIII> </DIV>
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  2. George

    George Guest

    For some time I've been collecting information on user experiences taking bikes on planes, trains,
    buses, boats, etc. There's lots of stuff on rentals, FOLDING bikes, boxing, airlines, and railroads
    around the world and how to ride in/out of about 120 airports.

    The obvious answer is that "it depends" ... especially on what you want to do with it (how far, how
    loaded, how tightly squozed) and, of course, on how much you want to pay.

    Anyhow see various opinions and links at http://www.BikeAccess.net

    Steve Juniper wrote:
    > Any recommendations for foldables for traveling from people who have used them? I'm thinking
    > that for some of my traveling that might be worth considering. Thanx!
    > --
    >
    > Steve Juniper [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > "53% of Americans feel that Bush is more of a threat to their country and freedoms than
    > Saddam Hussein. 26% don't realize it, while the other 17% don't care"
     
  3. Jym Dyer

    Jym Dyer Guest

    =v= I've been deliriously happy with my Bike Friday:

    http://www.bikefriday.com/

    (Tell 'em Jym Dyer sentcha, and I'll get a kickback.)

    =v= To be fair, others are deliriously happy with the models they chose. Brompton also gets many
    kudos from its owners, but I just don't like the little wheels. Swift Folders have nice 20-inch
    wheels (like Bike Fridays), and I'd probably get one of those as well, if I had the money to
    spare. <_Jym_
     
  4. Bikerider7

    Bikerider7 Guest

    Jym Dyer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > =v= I've been deliriously happy with my Bike Friday:
    >
    > http://www.bikefriday.com/

    YMMV. I bought a Bike Friday 5 years ago and it was a piece of shit. Had to send it back numerous
    times to get things fixed before I finally gave up. I know several other owners who had the same
    experience (though I also know happy owners).

    >
    > (Tell 'em Jym Dyer sentcha, and I'll get a kickback.)
    >
    > =v= To be fair, others are deliriously happy with the models they chose. Brompton also gets many
    > kudos from its owners, but I just don't like the little wheels. Swift Folders have nice 20-inch
    > wheels (like Bike Fridays), and I'd probably get one of those as well, if I had the money to
    > spare. <_Jym_>

    Do you want a quick-folder for trips on transit, or a slow-folder for touring, etc? You have to
    specify because it can make a big difference in what kind of model you need. However, if you are
    looking at a Bike-Friday type bike, then I would suggest looking at Montague.
     
  5. bikerider7 wrote:
    > Jym Dyer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    >>=v= I've been deliriously happy with my Bike Friday:
    >>
    >>http://www.bikefriday.com/
    >
    >
    > YMMV. I bought a Bike Friday 5 years ago and it was a piece of shit. Had to send it back numerous
    > times to get things fixed before I finally gave up. I know several other owners who had the same
    > experience (though I also know happy owners).
    >

    Another very positive review :

    http://www.jimlangley.net/ride/bikefriday.html

    Dan
     
  6. Steve

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    I boxed up a full sized bicycle once ( oh make that twice ... the return = trip too). We tied two
    bikes in boxes to the top of my brothers car ... = what a hassle. We made it, but a lot of things
    could have gone wrong =
    (i.e. small parts falling out of the hand holds on the box).

    Now I only travel with a BikeFriday I have owned about 4 years ... even = did Ride the Rockies with
    it. My 700cc rim bikes are constantly having = rim/tire problems. Our 2 BikeFriday's ... 2000 miles
    each ... only one = flat between us ... and no rim problems.

    The down side ... having the brakes and derailleur so close to the = ground causes components to
    really get gunked up when it rains. On Ride = the Rockies I had to relube all the cables by the
    third day.

    - Steve

    "Steve Juniper" <[email protected]> wrote in message = news:[email protected]...
    Any recommendations for foldables for traveling from people who = have used them? I'm thinking
    that for some of my traveling that might be = worth considering. Thanx! --=20

    Steve Juniper [email protected]

    "53% of Americans feel that Bush is more of a threat to their = country and freedoms than
    Saddam Hussein. 26% don't realize it, while = the other 17% don't care"

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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I boxed up a full sized bicycle once ( = oh make that=20 twice
    ... the return trip too). We tied two bikes in boxes to the = top of=20 my brothers car
    ... what a hassle. We made it, but a lot of things = could=20 have gone wrong (i.e.
    small parts falling out of the hand holds on the=20 box).</FONT></DIV>
    <DV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DVI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I only travel with a BikeFriday I = have owned=20 about 4
    years ... even did Ride the Rockies with it. My 700cc rim = bikes=20 are constantly
    having rim/tire problems. Our 2 BikeFriday's ... = 2000 miles=20 each ... only one flat
    between us ... and no rim problems.</FONT></DIV>
    <DVII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DVIII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The down side ... having the brakes and = derailleur=20 so close
    to the ground causes components to really get gunked up when it =

    rains. On Ride the Rockies I had to relube all the cables by the = third=20 day.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIX><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DX><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- Steve</FONT></DIV>
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    <DXIII>"Steve Juniper" <<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>> = wrote in=20
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    =
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    <DXIV> Any recommendations for foldables for = traveling from=20 people who
    have used them? I'm thinking that for some of my traveling = that=20 might be worth
    considering.</DIV>
    <DXV> Thanx!<BR>-- <BR></DIV>
    <DXVI> </DIV>
    <DXVII>Steve Juniper <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A></DIV>
    <DXVIII> </DIV>
    <DXIX> "53% of Americans feel that Bush is more = of a=20 threat to
    their country and freedoms than Saddam Hussein. 26% don't = realize=20 it, while the other
    17% don't = care"<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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  7. Fred Roses

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  8. Jenn

    Jenn Guest

    [email protected] (Fred Roses) wrote in message
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    > I love my Airnimal Chameleon! http://www.airnimal.com

    Please, tell us more! How long have you had it, what kind of rides do you do, which travelling case
    do you use, what are it's plusses and minusses, etc.!

    Thanks,

    Jenn
     
  9. Jed

    Jed Guest

    Hey, you guys should check out the Ritchey BreakAway. see www.ritcheylogic.com for more info. It is
    a full size road bike that packs into a 10x26x28" suitcase. The complete bike is ~19lbs.

    For the record, yes I do work for Ritchey, so take that for what it's worth.
     
  10. Fred Roses

    Fred Roses Guest

    [email protected] (Jenn) wrote in message
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    > Please, tell us more! How long have you had it, what kind of rides do you do, which travelling
    > case do you use, what are it's plusses and minusses, etc.!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Jenn

    I use my Airnimal for light "credit card" touring. If you look at the gallery on their website my
    bike is the 5th one down on the left, leaning against a tree. It's pretty lavishly equipped with
    Campy Centaur. I have been able to closely duplicate the geometry of my normal road bike - Airnimal
    has lots of diferent stems to fine tune the fit. The only "strangeness" of the bike is the chunk of
    elastomer that they included where the bike snaps together. I think the idea was to eliminate any
    squeeking at this critical juncture, and also compensate for the slightly harsher ride of the
    smaller wheels; however, it also serves as constant reminder to me that I must pedal circles, since
    the bike will bob or "pogo" especially at high cadence. By the way, the elastomer is available in 3
    different hardnesses for different weight riders and personal preference. I purchased the suitcase
    that Airnimal offers, which appears to be an "off the rack" design from the Orient. The bike packs
    easily and quickly, and there's plenty of room in the case for extra stuff, but the case does seem a
    little flimsy. However, it's already flown around the world several times without incident. By the
    way, I found the people at Airnimal very easy to work and reliable. Fred
     
  11. Jym Dyer

    Jym Dyer Guest

    > Friday : http://www.bikefriday.com/largePRPro.jpg
    >
    > Airnimal : http://www.airnimal.com/gif/gallery30.jpg
    >
    > The latter certainly looks more robust to me, although I have known excellent riders who've had
    > very positive Friday experiences.

    =v= The Friday is solid; that cage back there is very robust (and lightweight). For more comparison,
    here's the model of Bike Friday that I own, which is V-framed like the Airnimal:

    http://www.bikefriday.com/largeag.jpg

    That's not even a cage, but it's very strong and robust. <_Jym_>

    P.S.: Bear in mind that the Airnimals have 24-inch wheels. So even though the photos are about the
    same size, the bikes are going to be different sizes.
     
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    There are probably 300 different folding bicycles, so you need to have = some idea of what you want
    to do with it. For public transit you want something = that folds very fast and very small, i.e. a
    Brompton, while for carrying in a car trunk = you can go for something a little larger and more
    capable. If you just want something = to take on a commercial airliner without paying extra, and are
    willing to spend ten = minutes on each end, then you can get something as good as a regular
    cumbersome.

    Check out www.gaerlan.com He manufactures his own high end folder as = well as selling a model based
    on a Dahon frame, as well as some mass market Dahon's and a Montague. Dahon's are vastly different
    than how they were = 15 years ago, they have some decent products.

    "Steve Juniper" <[email protected]> wrote in message = news:[email protected]...
    Any recommendations for foldables for traveling from people who = have used them? I'm thinking
    that for some of my traveling that might be = worth considering. Thanx! --=20

    Steve Juniper [email protected]

    "53% of Americans feel that Bush is more of a threat to their = country and freedoms than
    Saddam Hussein. 26% don't realize it, while = the other 17% don't care"

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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are probably 300 different = folding bicycles,=20 so you
    need to have some idea</FONT></DIV>
    <DV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of what you want to do with it. For = public transit=20 you want
    something that folds very</FONT></DIV>
    <DVI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fast and very small, i.e. a Brompton, = while=20
    for carrying in a car trunk you can go for</FONT></DIV>
    <DVII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>something a little larger and more = capable. If you=20 just want
    something to take on a</FONT></DIV>
    <DVIII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>commercial airliner without paying = extra, and are=20 willing to
    spend ten minutes on each</FONT></DIV>
    <DIX><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>end, then you can get something as good = as a=20 regular
    cumbersome.</FONT></DIV>
    <DX><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DXI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Check out <A=20
    href=3D"http://www.gaerlan.com">www.gaerlan.com</A> He manufactures = his own=20 high
    end folder as well</FONT></DIV>
    <DXII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as selling a model based on a Dahon = frame, as well=20 as some
    mass market</FONT></DIV>
    <DXIII><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dahon's and a Montague. Dahon's are = vastly=20 different than
    how they were 15</FONT></DIV>
    <DXIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>years ago, they </FONT><FONT = face=3DArial size=3D2>have=20 some
    decent products.</FONT></DIV>
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    have used them? I'm thinking that for some of my traveling = that=20 might be worth
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    <DXVIII> Thanx!<BR>-- <BR></DIV>
    <DXIX> </DIV>
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