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  1. 1: J Nutr. 2004 Jan;134(1):99-103. Related Articles, Links

    Iron supplementation does not affect the susceptibility of
    LDL to oxidative modification in women with low iron status.

    Binkoski AE, Kris-Etherton PM, Beard JL.

    Graduate Program in Nutrition, The Department of Nutritional
    Sciences, The Pennsylvania State University, University
    Park, PA, USA.

    Elevated iron stores may or may not promote atherogenesis by
    increasing free radical formation and oxidative stress, but
    controlled diet and supplement trials are lacking. We tested
    the hypothesis that iron supplementation does not increase
    the susceptibility of LDL to undergo oxidative modification
    in women with low iron status. A randomized, double-blind,
    2-period crossover study design (n=26) was used to examine
    the effects of the following diets on measures of LDL
    oxidation: average American diet (AAD) [36% of energy as
    fat; 15% saturated fatty acids (SFA)], and a Step 2 diet
    (26% fat; 7% SFA). In addition, subjects received either a
    supplement containing 160 mg of ferrous sulfate (50 mg
    elemental iron) or a placebo twice daily [supplement group
    received a total of 320 mg ferrous sulfate (100 mg elemental
    iron) daily]. After supplementation, serum ferritin differed
    between the supplement and placebo groups (P=0.008).
    Measures of LDL oxidation were not affected by supplement
    intake; however, they were affected by diet. Lag time was
    shorter after the women consumed the AAD diet than after the
    Step 2 diet (P<0.0001). The diets did not affect the rate of
    oxidation or total dienes. Although iron status was improved
    by aggressive iron supplementation, LDL oxidative
    susceptibility was not affected. As expected, lag time was
    increased after the women consumed the low fat, low SFA
    diet. Therefore, the results of this study do not support a
    relationship between iron status and LDL oxidation.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: For doe boy
    From: [email hidden] (ChuckMSRD)
    Date: 4/17/2004 6:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time
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    1: J Nutr. 2004 Jan;134(1):99-103. Related Articles, Links

    Iron supplementation does not affect the
    susceptibility of LDL to oxidative modification in
    women with low iron status.

    Binkoski AE, Kris-Etherton PM, Beard JL.

    Graduate Program in Nutrition, The Department of
    Nutritional Sciences, The Pennsylvania State University,
    University Park, PA, USA.

    Elevated iron stores may or may not promote atherogenesis
    by increasing free radical formation and oxidative stress,
    but controlled diet and supplement trials are lacking. We
    tested the hypothesis that iron supplementation does not
    increase the susceptibility of LDL to undergo oxidative
    modification in women with low iron status.

    This has already been tested ..

    Iron supplementation is KNOWN to be .. ineffective ..

    Supplementation / supplements are controlled by the body ..
    inability / prevention of .. absorption ..

    Heme-iron is not ..

    Quoted message said:

    A randomized, double-blind, 2-period crossover study design
    (n=26) was used to examine the effects of the following
    diets on measures of LDL oxidation: average American diet
    (AAD) [36% of energy as fat; 15% saturated fatty acids
    (SFA)], and a Step 2 diet (26% fat; 7% SFA). In addition,
    subjects received either a supplement containing 160 mg of
    ferrous sulfate (50 mg elemental iron) or a placebo twice
    daily [supplement group received a total of 320 mg ferrous
    sulfate (100 mg elemental iron) daily]. After
    supplementation, serum ferritin differed between the
    supplement and placebo groups (P=0.008). Measures of LDL
    oxidation were not affected by supplement intake; however,
    they were affected by diet. Lag time was shorter after the
    women consumed the AAD diet than after the Step 2 diet
    (P<0.0001). The diets did not affect the rate of oxidation
    or total dienes. Although iron status was improved by
    aggressive iron supplementation, LDL oxidative
    susceptibility was not affected. As expected, lag time was
    increased after the women consumed the low fat, low SFA
    diet. Therefore, the results of this study do not support a
    relationship between iron status and LDL oxidation.

    EXCESSIVE iron and LDL oxidation ..

    So since these women were / are considered to be iron
    deficient .. low iron .. that would mean according to
    recent work .. that they most likely were .. just .. about
    .. right ..

    Supplementing iron to someone who is NOT in iron excess will
    not lead to excessive free radicals .. rust .. reactive
    oxygen species ..

    Now feed them heme iron and supplements and WAIT the period
    of time it TAKES to raise the levels of iron INTO .. excess
    .. >35% saturation of transferrin and then .. again .. test
    .. for LDL oxidation ..

    Skewed research ..

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  3. Tom, too many attempts at trying to rearrange the rhetorical
    deckchairs on your titanic thesis to mention, or worth the
    time to address. Just one question, what percent of the
    population has a level greter then 35 for the measure you
    mention? The blood level of iron whent up and it had no
    effect on the ldl present there. Why do you assume a
    stepwise change and not a linear correlation exists?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1: J Nutr. 2004 Jan;134(1):99-103. Related Articles, Links

    Iron supplementation does not affect the
    susceptibility of LDL to oxidative modification in
    women with low iron status.

    Binkoski AE, Kris-Etherton PM, Beard JL.

    Graduate Program in Nutrition, The Department of
    Nutritional Sciences, The Pennsylvania State University,
    University Park, PA, USA.

    Elevated iron stores may or may not promote atherogenesis
    by increasing free radical formation and oxidative stress,
    but controlled diet and supplement trials are lacking. We
    tested the hypothesis that iron supplementation does not
    increase the susceptibility of LDL to undergo oxidative
    modification in women with low iron status.

    This has already been tested ..

    Iron supplementation is KNOWN to be .. ineffective ..

    Supplementation / supplements are controlled by the body ..
    inability / prevention of .. absorption ..

    Heme-iron is not ..

    Quoted message said:

    A randomized, double-blind, 2-period crossover study
    design (n=26) was used to examine the effects of the
    following diets on measures of LDL oxidation: average
    American diet (AAD) [36% of energy as fat; 15% saturated
    fatty acids (SFA)], and a Step 2 diet (26% fat; 7% SFA).
    In addition, subjects received either a supplement
    containing 160 mg of ferrous sulfate (50 mg elemental
    iron) or a placebo twice daily [supplement group received
    a total of 320 mg ferrous sulfate (100 mg elemental iron)
    daily]. After supplementation, serum ferritin differed
    between the supplement and placebo groups (P=0.008).
    Measures of LDL oxidation were not affected by supplement
    intake; however, they were affected by diet. Lag time was
    shorter after the women consumed the AAD diet than after
    the Step 2 diet (P<0.0001). The diets did not affect the
    rate of oxidation or total dienes. Although iron status
    was improved by aggressive iron supplementation, LDL
    oxidative susceptibility was not affected. As expected,
    lag time was increased after the women consumed the low
    fat, low SFA diet. Therefore, the results of this study do
    not support a relationship between iron status and LDL
    oxidation.

    EXCESSIVE iron and LDL oxidation ..

    So since these women were / are considered to be iron
    deficient .. low iron .. that would mean according to
    recent work .. that they most likely were .. just .. about
    .. right ..

    Supplementing iron to someone who is NOT in iron excess
    will not lead to excessive free radicals .. rust ..
    reactive oxygen species ..

    Now feed them heme iron and supplements and WAIT the period
    of time it TAKES to raise the levels of iron INTO .. excess
    .. >35% saturation of transferrin and then .. again .. test
    .. for LDL oxidation ..

    Skewed research ..

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    PEOPLE WALKING
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