For I-Pod users

Roger Zoul said:

Bill Baka wrote:
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::
:: On charity rides I usually have conversations going in a crowd of
:: people. I make my way from group to group as I ride and some of the
:: things people talk about are quite interesting, and I pick up a lot
:: of local history.

Same here. However, I'm a slow rider. I once went on a century where I was
isolated for the last 50 miles or so as all the fast riders left me from the
beginning (or passed me). Sadly, I wasn't wearing 'phones then.

I am a slow to medium rider so I come in about the middle of the
starting group. I could go faster but then I would not get to socialize
on the ride, and that is part of what makes me, well, me. The rides I go
on are the charity type and there are a certain percent of riders who
just have to race, sometimes I will sprint up to them, but usually let
them go off in their own world. The riders who just want to complete the
40 to 100 miles at a comfortable speed are the socializers. Our local
annual event is the "Bike around the Buttes" here is Sutter county,
California. The Sutter Buttes are billed as the world's smallest
mountain range, and traffic is kept off the road during tour day.

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Bill Baka

Raoul Duke said:

Not everyone who is deaf has been so their entire life. Should only those
who have been deaf their entire lives be allowed to ride or drive?

Don't you see how silly this is? Hearing is not necessary to safely ride a
bike.

I think this is probably true.

You don't really need to hear in your automobile. Some may
not be able to hear with the music cranked up so the bass notes
are audible to those miles ahead.

I don't listen to music when I ride. Primarily as I regard it
as a distraction. Might as well be in a car or on a bus.

But since people in cars by-and-large are not being overtaken
by those behind them, and bicyclists are, it surely doesn't hurt
to add auditory inputs to your pedaling repertoire while out on
the road.

I like my little iPod, but I don't think it's going on to my
bike any time soon.

SMH

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Raoul Duke said:

Not everyone who is deaf has been so their entire life. Should only
those who have been deaf their entire lives be allowed to ride or drive?

Don't you see how silly this is? Hearing is not necessary to safely ride
a bike.

I think this is probably true.

You don't really need to hear in your automobile. Some may
not be able to hear with the music cranked up so the bass notes
are audible to those miles ahead.

I don't listen to music when I ride. Primarily as I regard it
as a distraction. Might as well be in a car or on a bus.

But since people in cars by-and-large are not being overtaken
by those behind them, and bicyclists are, it surely doesn't hurt
to add auditory inputs to your pedaling repertoire while out on
the road.

[...]

Most of us who ride recumbents will have a rear view mirror attached to our
eye glasses or our helmets. I NEVER get on any kind of a bike without a rear
view mirror. I resort to it about every 5 seconds or so to see what is
coming behind me. It is royal pain in the neck to have to be turn your head
about to see what is behind you, but it is especially difficult to do that
on a recumbent. I regard any recumbent cyclist who goes riding without some
kind of rear view mirror as a total idiot.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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http://www.apple.com/sound/

I ran into this link today and decided to put it here for anyone who may
happen to use an I-Pod. Many of us don't need music 24/7 but for those who
do this is relevant.

I've grown to like listening to audio books. My local library has a decent
collection and I love the ability to multitask. Indeed I find the two things
mutually reinforcing:

I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go for a
ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?

Note: Yes I've seen the legal/illegal, safe/unsafe arguments. I don't care.
I enjoy the two activities together. It is AFAIK and unimportantly legal
hereabouts, and whatever trade-off in safety I'm willing to take - just like
the trade-off in safety in not leaving my home on any given day.

Tom Keats said:

Dane Buson said:

I've developed a finely attuned ear for the sound of my cellphone, keys,
or other things falling and sliding across the pavement.

After a number of such droppages, one can identify without looking
whatever object fell, just by the sound it made.

Keychains are easy.

True. My wallet makes a meaty *thwap* sound. The cellphone has a more
solid sound, and tends to skitter making a pretty distinct sliding
sound. As you mention, the keys are easy.

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For some reason, cycle computer display heads don't make any
sound at all when they fall off. I think they're purposely
engineered that way.

Heh. I can hear them, the problem has been that they're small and tend
to blend in. It's like they're making a desperate break for freedom.

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
A Difficulty for Every Solution.
-- Motto of the Federal Civil Service

recycled-one said:

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Quoted message said:

http://www.apple.com/sound/

I ran into this link today and decided to put it here for anyone who may
happen to use an I-Pod. Many of us don't need music 24/7 but for those who
do this is relevant.

I've grown to like listening to audio books. My local library has a decent
collection and I love the ability to multitask. Indeed I find the two things
mutually reinforcing:

I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go for a
ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?

Me too, but more like on my computer when I am reading something else.
Audio and video multitasking, but not traffic and riding AND listening.
Once I ride out to the country I like listening to the actual nature
around me and often sit on a rock and relax under a waterfall. An I-Pod
just wouldn't be right.
Bill Baka

Quoted message said:

Note: Yes I've seen the legal/illegal, safe/unsafe arguments. I don't care.
I enjoy the two activities together. It is AFAIK and unimportantly legal
hereabouts, and whatever trade-off in safety I'm willing to take - just like
the trade-off in safety in not leaving my home on any given day.

recycled-one wrote:
::
:: I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go
:: for a ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?
::

I listen to audio books on the drive to/from work. Not for cycling, though.
Too boring. I like a beat to pedal to.

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recycled-one wrote:
::
:: I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go
:: for a ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?
::

I listen to audio books on the drive to/from work. Not for cycling,
though. Too boring. I like a beat to pedal to.

I like that too, but listening to books has really grown on me. It's not
everyone's cuppa tea but I favour history and politics, especially 'The
Modern Scholar' Lecture series. They are lectures done by various professors
mostly in history. That and non-fiction from the likes Bob Woodward, Noam
Chomsky, Morgan Spurlock, Sun Tzu makes me feel like I am improving the
inner and the outer man - exercising the mind and the body.

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Quoted message said:

recycled-one wrote:
::
:: I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go
:: for a ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?
::

I listen to audio books on the drive to/from work. Not for cycling,
though. Too boring. I like a beat to pedal to.

I like that too, but listening to books has really grown on me. It's not
everyone's cuppa tea but I favour history and politics, especially 'The
Modern Scholar' Lecture series. They are lectures done by various
professors mostly in history. That and non-fiction from the likes Bob
Woodward, Noam Chomsky, Morgan Spurlock, Sun Tzu makes me feel like I am
improving the inner and the outer man - exercising the mind and the body.

Not me! I gave up on all improvement over 20 years ago. While I am riding my
bike I am thinking of how much I hate everyone and of various ways I would
like to commit murder. After I have exhausted all the ways of committing
murder, then I like to think of how I could torture my enemies. Finally, I
like to contemplate my own suicide (self murder). This is a deep study
indeed. How to kill oneself without botching it. This is not as easy as it
seems. I would like to go in a second and not linger with a lot of
suffering. I am thinking of various poisons as I only like to commit extreme
violence on others, not myself.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. Anyone who takes newsgroups seriously is an idiot!

Edward Dolan wrote:
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This is a deep study
indeed. How to kill oneself without botching it. This is not as easy as it
seems. I would like to go in a second and not linger with a lot of
suffering. I am thinking of various poisons as I only like to commit extreme
violence on others, not myself.

I've heard good things about a tall bridge and 50 feet of piano wire
with a noose formed at the end...apparently, full decapitation is
almost guaranteed (and almost instantaneous), and the river below makes
an excellent repository for the remains. In addition, little cleanup is
required. Much more reliable than poison, although a bit of inexpensive
vino may be helpful in order to bolster one's courage.

Quoted message said:

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. Anyone who takes newsgroups seriously is an idiot!

Indeed.

Best,

Dan

Ed Dolan confessed...

While I am riding my bike I am thinking of how much I hate everyone and
of various ways I would like to commit murder. After I have exhausted
all the ways of committing murder, then I like to think of how I could
torture my enemies. Finally, I like to contemplate my own suicide (self
murder). This is a deep study indeed. How to kill oneself without
botching it. This is not as easy as it seems. I would like to go in a
second and not linger with a lot of suffering. I am thinking of various
poisons as I only like to commit extreme violence on others, not
myself.

Well, this is a telling admission from the demented Minnesota loon.
Ed, should you ever decide to torture or kill your enemies, be
forewarned that this would be an overwhelming, monumental, arduous task
with the many enemies you've made. Regardless, I'd suggest that you
reconsider since most of the enemies you wish to torture or kill would
kick your candy ass. I have a suggestion though should remain
undeterred. Why not compile and post a list of your enemies upon whom
you wish to commit extreme violence and I am sure that some would be
more than willing to accommodate you. Please do include me. As for
suicide, I'm all for it and hope that you find a suitable means and do
the deed as soon as possible. I've already put that one on my X-mas
list.

Jim McNamara

recycled-one wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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::: recycled-one wrote:
:::::
::::: I 'have' to go for ride when I want to read, and when I want to go
::::: for a ride I 'have' to read. Any one else like audio books?
:::::
:::
::: I listen to audio books on the drive to/from work. Not for cycling,
::: though. Too boring. I like a beat to pedal to.
::
:: I like that too, but listening to books has really grown on me. It's
:: not everyone's cuppa tea but I favour history and politics,
:: especially 'The Modern Scholar' Lecture series. They are lectures
:: done by various professors mostly in history. That and non-fiction
:: from the likes Bob Woodward, Noam Chomsky, Morgan Spurlock, Sun Tzu
:: makes me feel like I am improving the inner and the outer man -
:: exercising the mind and the body.

Interesting. I'm more a fan of tech stuff and self improvement, though I do
find some history stuff interesting too. The problem is, I have lots to
listen to - with XM radio and audible.com. So it gets to be a struggle. 🙂

Still, for cycling, it's strickly fast music a low enough volume to talk to
someone riding next to me or walking on the side of the road.

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Interesting. I'm more a fan of tech stuff and self improvement, though I
do find some history stuff interesting too. The problem is, I have lots
to listen to - with XM radio and audible.com. So it gets to be a
struggle. 🙂

I haven't gone for sat radio. It is tempting - the thought of a good
business news station and music types of my choice - especially considering
how bad terrestrial radio has gotten. Plus in town their is only one station
that has a clear strong signal. Outside of town I might get 3 or 4 more.

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Quoted message said:

Ed Dolan confessed...

While I am riding my bike I am thinking of how much I hate everyone and
of various ways I would like to commit murder. After I have exhausted
all the ways of committing murder, then I like to think of how I could
torture my enemies. Finally, I like to contemplate my own suicide (self
murder). This is a deep study indeed. How to kill oneself without
botching it. This is not as easy as it seems. I would like to go in a
second and not linger with a lot of suffering. I am thinking of various
poisons as I only like to commit extreme violence on others, not
myself.

Well, this is a telling admission from the demented Minnesota loon.
Ed, should you ever decide to torture or kill your enemies, be
forewarned that this would be an overwhelming, monumental, arduous task
with the many enemies you've made. Regardless, I'd suggest that you
reconsider since most of the enemies you wish to torture or kill would
kick your candy ass. I have a suggestion though should remain
undeterred. Why not compile and post a list of your enemies upon whom
you wish to commit extreme violence and I am sure that some would be
more than willing to accommodate you. Please do include me. As for
suicide, I'm all for it and hope that you find a suitable means and do
the deed as soon as possible. I've already put that one on my X-mas
list.

Alas, JimmyMac in no way qualifies for my enemies list. He is too uneducated
for that. I require others who are up to my own high standards. It would be
infra dignitatem for me to soil my hands with the likes of him. Ed Gin is
also infra dignitatem. Tom Sherman would qualify, but the trouble is that I
don't really dislike him all that much. We have become the best of enemies
in spite of ourselves.

I have decided that when I am totally fed up with this world I will simply
do away with myself. It is enough for me to know that everyone else in this
miserable world is also going to die. It is just a matter of time. Yea, even
JimmyMac, who thinks he is immortal, is going to die. I give him no more
than 20 years at best.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

recycled-one said:

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Interesting. I'm more a fan of tech stuff and self improvement, though I
do find some history stuff interesting too. The problem is, I have lots
to listen to - with XM radio and audible.com. So it gets to be a
struggle. 🙂

I haven't gone for sat radio. It is tempting - the thought of a good
business news station and music types of my choice - especially considering
how bad terrestrial radio has gotten. Plus in town their is only one station
that has a clear strong signal. Outside of town I might get 3 or 4 more.

No sat for me. The thought of paying $10 a month, per radio, is getting
up to the point of ridiculous. Once in a while I like to listen to my
good old fashioned AM/FM and find out what is happening locally.
PLUS....
The latest news on my Electronics magazines is that they are going to
use digital AM/FM between the stations now in use to broadcast CD
quality radio. Better than FM on the AM band, better than CD on the FM
band, plus about 10 channels on each channel, digitally multiplexed in.
Hi tech just won't quit. I'll bet you still get the commercials but you
won't have to keep paying for every radio, like XM or Sirius.
They might be out next year and I might then consider dragging along a
radio when I go out, but only for the off bike relax phase.
Bill

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Edward Dolan wrote:
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Quoted message said:

This is a deep study
indeed. How to kill oneself without botching it. This is not as easy as
it
seems. I would like to go in a second and not linger with a lot of
suffering. I am thinking of various poisons as I only like to commit
extreme
violence on others, not myself.

I've heard good things about a tall bridge and 50 feet of piano wire
with a noose formed at the end...apparently, full decapitation is
almost guaranteed (and almost instantaneous), and the river below makes
an excellent repository for the remains. In addition, little cleanup is
required. Much more reliable than poison, although a bit of inexpensive
vino may be helpful in order to bolster one's courage.

Nope, I am a poison man. Many of the Nazi war criminals took poison. The
Japanese war criminals liked to disembowel themselves, but that is for
savages, not for men of high civilization like we of the West. Many folks
about here prefer to blow their heads off with a shotgun when the time
comes. Even when they do it in the bathroom it is still very messy!

By the way, I have had vino at all price ranges and the very best vino
turned out to be the cheapest. Why pay more?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Ed,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't suicide the ultimate in extreme
violence that one can self-inflict? You'd think that a person who
professes to be of vastly superior intellect and also professes to be a
role model for us all to emulate, would have the common sense not to
reveal his dark side in a public forum to his alleged inferiors no
less, but we talking about the consumate conundrum Ed Dolan after all.
I'd consider HEAD Dolan to be a complete idiot if it were not for the
obvious fact that he has more than a few screws missing. Ed, don't
skip your meds or your appointment with the therapist. There's much
progress to be made if you are ever to achieve normalcy.

Jim McNamara

Ed,

Not the "uneducated" claim again. You have got to be dumber than a
rock and as perceptive as the average tree stump. I've never know
anyone who insists on repeating the same [censored] over and over again as
though if said hundreds of time, someone might begin to believe it to
be true. I repeat. I am educated, have a degree, and I am confident
that I am certainly smarter than you are although you have deluded
yourself with the belief that you have no cerebral equal. I was not
misled by the pretentious use of a Latin phrase that has noting to do
with being below your dignity and everything to do with a pretense of
education and an excuse for cowardice. Ed, I don't think that I am
immortal, but this much I know. Should you ever muster the testicular
fortitude to include me on your enemy list ... the one you mull over
with thoughts of murder as recently admitted in a previous post, and
should you muster the testicular fortitude to enact your fantasy, you
mortality will be spoken of in the past tense.

Jim McNamara

Ed,

Not the "uneducated" claim again. You have got to be dumber than a
rock and as perceptive as the average tree stump. I've never know
anyone who insists on repeating the same [censored] over and over again as
though if said hundreds of time, someone might begin to believe it to
be true. I repeat. I am educated, have a degree, and I am confident
that I am certainly smarter than you are although you have deluded
yourself with the belief that you have no cerebral equal. I was not
misled by the pretentious use of a Latin phrase that has noting to do
with being below your dignity and everything to do with a pretense of
education and an excuse for cowardice. Ed, I don't think that I am
immortal, but this much I know. Should you ever muster the testicular
fortitude to include me on your enemy list ... the one you mull over
with thoughts of murder as recently admitted in a previous post, and
should you muster the testicular fortitude to enact your fantasy, you
mortality will be spoken of in the past tense.

Jim McNamara

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Ed,

Not the "uneducated" claim again. You have got to be dumber than a
rock and as perceptive as the average tree stump. I've never know
anyone who insists on repeating the same [censored] over and over again as
though if said hundreds of time, someone might begin to believe it to
be true. I repeat. I am educated, have a degree, and I am confident
that I am certainly smarter than you are although you have deluded
yourself with the belief that you have no cerebral equal. I was not
misled by the pretentious use of a Latin phrase that has noting to do
with being below your dignity and everything to do with a pretense of
education and an excuse for cowardice.

If I had said "beneath dignity" it would not have had the same impact as
"infra dignatatem". This is something that only a highly educated person
such as myself would know and appreciate. Cultivation such as I have cannot
be gained by merely going to school for a number of years. No, not even at
such a prestigious school as Loyola University. You have to read widely in
order to acquire my sensibility. In fact, you have to be born into a family
of educated people. Otherwise, you are constantly behind the eight ball and
you never really catch up.

Ed, I don't think that I am

Quoted message said:

immortal, but this much I know. Should you ever muster the testicular
fortitude to include me on your enemy list ... the one you mull over
with thoughts of murder as recently admitted in a previous post, and
should you muster the testicular fortitude to enact your fantasy, you
mortality will be spoken of in the past tense.

No, I regard you on the order of a fly or a mosquito. As much as you might
wish otherwise, I do not consider you worthy of me. You reek of working
class manners. Surely there are many others on your level that you could
consort with. You and Ed Gin were once friends? How in the blazes did that
ever happen, pray tell, unless you and he were much alike.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota