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BT Humble

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This has probably been done many times before, but I'm going to do a
"break-even or bust!" experiment with a sub-$100 Big-W commuter bike.

Here's the home page of the attempt, if you're the type who enjoys
watching other people doing odd things for no apparent reason:

http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/budgetbike/index.htm

Hopefully I'll be able to do the first commuting run on Friday, my
right knee suffered pretty badly during Saturday's experiment with
downhill skiing. :-(


BTH
(PS: No, I am NOT seeking sponsorship. My wife would probably be
pleased to receive a few messages of sympathy though).
 
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Brendo

Guest
On Jun 25, 5:18 pm, BT Humble <[email protected]> wrote:
> This has probably been done many times before, but I'm going to do a
> "break-even or bust!" experiment with a sub-$100 Big-W commuter bike.
>
> Here's the home page of the attempt, if you're the type who enjoys
> watching other people doing odd things for no apparent reason:
>
> http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/budgetbike/index.htm
>
> Hopefully I'll be able to do the first commuting run on Friday, my
> right knee suffered pretty badly during Saturday's experiment with
> downhill skiing. :-(
>
> BTH
> (PS: No, I am NOT seeking sponsorship. My wife would probably be
> pleased to receive a few messages of sympathy though).


Interesting. It will be interesting to see how the $$ add up. Will you
do the same on a >$5k bike in the name of research as well?

Brendo
 
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Gags

Guest
"BT Humble" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> This has probably been done many times before, but I'm going to do a
> "break-even or bust!" experiment with a sub-$100 Big-W commuter bike.
>
> Here's the home page of the attempt, if you're the type who enjoys
> watching other people doing odd things for no apparent reason:
>


Did you see the guys at one of the 24hr races a couple of years ago. Two
teams of four mates in each team (from memory) bought bikes from K-mart or
Toys R Us for the race and had them sitting at the start line still in the
box. The first guy from each team had to assemble the bike (using only a
shifter) before then starting the race. From memory they were both dodgy
looking dual suspension mtbs but I think they made it through the
race........great concept......**** funny!!!

Too bad you don't live in Melbourne......it is $9.20 per day for a zone 1 +
2 rail ticket......bike would pay for itself in a couple of weeks. Even
better if I drive in.....it is about 18km or so each way which is probably 2
litres of petrol (about $5 all up) and it is $6 per day for on street
parking. How can anyone afford not to ride???

All you have to do is replace the parts as they wear out with decent ones
and if you can manage to crack the frame and break the forks one day you
might end up with a nice ride........sorta like Grandpa's Axe.

Good luck and hope you are back on the bike soon.

Gags
 
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Dave

Guest
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:18:54 -0700, BT Humble wrote:

> This has probably been done many times before, but I'm going to do a
> "break-even or bust!" experiment with a sub-$100 Big-W commuter bike.


How far are you going? Canberra has the advantage that it can be
relatively flat (though also relatively unflat!), which reduces the peak
load on bits. I'm also assuming you've got a bit of knowledge regarding
basic set up and maintenance which will improve the longevity of
components. Still, a worthy experiment.

But I got 18 months commuting out of $8, so I'm happy with my
inherited/bodged singlespeed. (It's still going, but I'm probably going to
be going a bit further afield so it'll be demoted to station bike duties).

--
Dave Hughes | [email protected]
We're standing there pounding a dead parrot on the counter, and the
management response is to frantically swap in new counters to see if
that fixes the problem. --Peter Gutmann 18/06/1998
 

gplama

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Melbourne. Sometimes.
I put a similar idea to the BV forum a few months back. $$++ from an unrelated bike accident, and looking at those plastic levers, I've re-thought the idea... I'd be really pi**ed if my obituary read "He died doing what he loved, on a Kmart bike" :)

Keep us updated on the decomposition process!
 
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Tex

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"BT Humble" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> This has probably been done many times before, but I'm going to do a
> "break-even or bust!" experiment with a sub-$100 Big-W commuter bike.
>
> Here's the home page of the attempt, if you're the type who enjoys
> watching other people doing odd things for no apparent reason:
>
> http://www.smallsolar.org/BTH/budgetbike/index.htm
>
> Hopefully I'll be able to do the first commuting run on Friday, my
> right knee suffered pretty badly during Saturday's experiment with
> downhill skiing. :-(
>
>
> BTH
> (PS: No, I am NOT seeking sponsorship. My wife would probably be
> pleased to receive a few messages of sympathy though).


Definitely needs a Rohloff and and Schlumpf. You'll increase the value of
the bike forty-fold!

Hmmmm, If I buy myself a $10 junk frame from the dump, maybe we could have a
"pimp my **** bike" contest
 
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BT Humble

Guest
Brendo wrote:
> On Jun 25, 5:18 pm,BTHumble <[email protected]> wrote:
> > (PS: No, I am NOT seeking sponsorship. My wife would probably be
> > pleased to receive a few messages of sympathy though).

>
> Interesting. It will be interesting to see how the $$ add up. Will you
> do the same on a >$5k bike in the name of research as well?


Heh! OK, for *that* one I'd be looking for sponsorship! ;-)


BTH
 
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BT Humble

Guest
Tex wrote:
> Hmmmm, If I buy myself a $10 junk frame from the dump, maybe we could have a
> "pimp my **** bike" contest


LED valve caps would be a good start! ;-)


BTH
 
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BT Humble

Guest
Dave wrote:
> How far are you going? Canberra has the advantage that it can be
> relatively flat (though also relatively unflat!), which reduces the peak
> load on bits. I'm also assuming you've got a bit of knowledge regarding
> basic set up and maintenance which will improve the longevity of
> components. Still, a worthy experiment.


16km each way. Not much by some standards, but good enough for me.

> But I got 18 months commuting out of $8, so I'm happy with my
> inherited/bodged singlespeed. (It's still going, but I'm probably going to
> be going a bit further afield so it'll be demoted to station bike duties).


Hmm. You fixie people are a bit weird in my book, but then the
feeling is probably mutual. ;-)


BTH
 
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Dave

Guest
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:01:33 -0700, BT Humble wrote:

> Hmm. You fixie people are a bit weird in my book, but then the
> feeling is probably mutual. ;-)


Nah, it isn't fixed. I wasn't lucky enough to score something that worked
nicely with a gear combo I could easily get, so an old derailleur with one
wheel cut off makes a good tensioner and required no cash input. I'd
probably be able to fix it if I used a phantom cog, but that can wait
until the freehub dies.

The only thing I had to buy was a front brake cable. That's a fair enough
investment, since it's kind of critical safety wise if you've got a
freewheel (and the back rim's sufficiently buckled that braking is of
limited controllability).

--
Dave Hughes | [email protected]
Never go off on tangents, which are lines that intersect a curve at
only one point and were discovered by Euclid, who lived in the 6th
century, which was an era dominated by the Goths, who lived in what
we now know as Poland." - Nov. 1998 issue of Infosystems Executive.
 
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BT Humble

Guest
Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:01:33 -0700,BTHumble wrote:
> > Hmm. You fixie people are a bit weird in my book, but then the
> > feeling is probably mutual. ;-)

>
> Nah, it isn't fixed. I wasn't lucky enough to score something that worked
> nicely with a gear combo I could easily get, so an old derailleur with one
> wheel cut off makes a good tensioner and required no cash input. I'd
> probably be able to fix it if I used a phantom cog, but that can wait
> until the freehub dies.


Why don't you just unscrew the freewheel and weld it up? If that
feels too much like vandalism to you, I can send you a 5-speed
freewheel that has its innards rusted up nice and tight, which would
give the same effect. ;-)


BTH
 
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Dave

Guest
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:44:56 -0700, BT Humble wrote:

> Why don't you just unscrew the freewheel and weld it up?


I don't have a welder and that sounds like too much work. It is a
freehub body (7sp) so it's a little tricky to weld up. Oh, and I have to
hunt out a chainring that has more than slight indents if I'm going to be
braking as well, though it's disturbing just how little metal it takes to
make a bike go.

--
Dave Hughes | [email protected]
Thus leading us to the obvious conclusion that all software should look
like a nipple. - Eric the Read
 
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Parbs

Guest
Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:44:56 -0700, BT Humble wrote:
>
>> Why don't you just unscrew the freewheel and weld it up?

>
> I don't have a welder and that sounds like too much work.


Gaff tape & zip ties?

Parbs
 
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Dave

Guest
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:01:21 +0000, Parbs wrote:

> Gaff tape & zip ties?


Oooh, both fixers. Classy!

--
Dave Hughes | [email protected]
Frankly, your argument wouldn't float were the sea composed of mercury.
- Biff
 
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BT Humble

Guest
Gags wrote:
> Too bad you don't live in Melbourne......it is $9.20 per day for a zone 1 +
> 2 rail ticket......bike would pay for itself in a couple of weeks. Even
> better if I drive in.....it is about 18km or so each way which is probably 2
> litres of petrol (about $5 all up) and it is $6 per day for on street
> parking. How can anyone afford not to ride???


Heh! If I was counting "car costs" here it'd be 32km @ 6km/l @ $0.50/
l (LPG) = $2.66 for fuel, plus $5 for parking, plus $X for
aggravation. ;-)

> All you have to do is replace the parts as they wear out with decent ones
> and if you can manage to crack the frame and break the forks one day you
> might end up with a nice ride........sorta like Grandpa's Axe.
>
> Good luck and hope you are back on the bike soon.


I gave it a go this morning. My ride in took nearer to 50 minutes
than the usual 40, but I think most of that was down to the rider
rather than the machine. My knee is a little sore, but I reckon it'll
be OK.

Bike's going OK too. I'll give it a good checking over tomorrow, the
bearings and such should be pretty well bedded in after 40km or so.


BTH