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  1. Marc Heimann

    Marc Heimann Guest

    Joyce wrote:

    > Well, so much for bright and shiny. <G> Evidentally the
    > appearance matters not, in the grand scheme of things. <G>
    > Ours are not the shiny chrome, are a dull silver finish. I
    > imagine they will also become chipped and ugly - but don't
    > see the weight changing over time.

    Good, it is *work*out equipment, not some interior
    decoration thingy :)

    > Ok, one more goofy question here that I never thought
    > about. If I were to use 2 of the 5 lb weights on the
    > dumbells ... would I be lifting 10 pounds ... or would it
    > actually be about 12.5, since the dumbell itself weighs
    > over 2.5 pounds (I didn't weigh the screws, imagine it
    > would total up to 3 lbs)? I'm gonna figure all of this
    > out sooner or later, just was wondering where exactly I
    > should start.

    Yep, you are actually lifting 13 pounds, but the weight of
    the handle is usually *not* taken into consideration when
    marking dumbbells.

    So in a gym they would be labeled 10 lbs.

    The only occassion that I know of where the weight of the
    bar is taken into the calculation are weightlifting
    competitions with Olympic bars (who are at 25lbs IIRC).

    Cheers Marc
     


  2. Joyce

    Joyce Guest

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:24:34 +0100, Marc Heimann <[email protected]Mweb.de>
    wrote:

    >Joyce wrote:
    >
    >> Well, so much for bright and shiny. <G> Evidentally the
    >> appearance matters not, in the grand scheme of things.
    >> <G> Ours are not the shiny chrome, are a dull silver
    >> finish. I imagine they will also become chipped and ugly
    >> - but don't see the weight changing over time.
    >
    >Good, it is *work*out equipment, not some interior
    >decoration thingy :)

    LOL! Great point! I plan on using them Monday, today will be
    reading the websites you posted so I know what the heck I'm
    doing - and getting myself somewhat educated. Nothing like
    hurting myself first time out to put me off from going
    again. And I am a stubborn cuss. Sonny boy and hub laughed
    at me (just as when requesting the new treadmill) - I'll
    make them eat their words. <g>

    >
    >> Ok, one more goofy question here that I never thought
    >> about. If I were to use 2 of the 5 lb weights on the
    >> dumbells ... would I be lifting 10 pounds ... or would it
    >> actually be about 12.5, since the dumbell itself weighs
    >> over 2.5 pounds (I didn't weigh the screws, imagine it
    >> would total up to 3 lbs)? I'm gonna figure all of this
    >> out sooner or later, just was wondering where exactly I
    >> should start.
    >
    >Yep, you are actually lifting 13 pounds, but the weight of
    >the handle is usually *not* taken into consideration when
    >marking dumbbells.
    >
    >So in a gym they would be labeled 10 lbs.
    >
    >The only occassion that I know of where the weight of the
    >bar is taken into the calculation are weightlifting
    >competitions with Olympic bars (who are at 25lbs IIRC).

    Thanks so much for the information, Marc. I'm glad to see my
    logical mind isn't totally going whacko. I'll count it as
    the actual plate weights, but keep in mind the total weight
    when choosing where/what to start with. I was thinking of
    starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had a good point ... 5
    pounds might be a better option while learning and getting
    myself into the swing of things.

    Joyce

    >
    >Cheers Marc
     
  3. Marc Heimann

    Marc Heimann Guest

    Joyce wrote:
    > I was thinking of starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had
    > a good point ... 5 pounds might be a better option while
    > learning and getting myself into the swing of things.

    That is correct, concentrate on proper form prior to
    increase weight.

    Have fun lifting Marc
     
  4. Let me repeat: start light, concentrate on form, then
    increase weight when it becomes easy.

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:34:38 -0600, Joyce
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I was thinking of starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had a
    >good point ... 5 pounds might be a better option while
    >learning and getting myself into the swing of things
     
  5. Fred

    Fred Guest

    You know, extortion, is a crime - except, maybe when
    attached to motherhood! (G)

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 02:54:34 -0600, Joyce
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Yup, was quick and easy. I did most of the legwork
    >yesterday, so had our options sorted out before dragging
    >son out of bed this morning. We ended up at Sportmart, is
    >the closest store to the house - straight down Roosevelt
    >about 2 miles. This set wasn't the original one I looked
    >at, these were $10 cheaper ... and at this point I figured
    >weights were weights ... knew he wanted the barbell, I
    >wanted the dumbells and screw collars - the rest didn't
    >matter much.
    >
    >Sonny boy has never been overly difficult to get out of bed
    >(daughter is an entirely different story), but putting the
    >game plan in the open and letting him know he was in
    >control of his own destiny - does change things a bit. I
    >might try this with more things, probably would get a lot
    >more man-work completed around the house. <G>
    >
    >Joyce
    >
    >On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:58:19 -0600, "skiur"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>That's it? Great deal! Where did you go? I have to
    >>consider this for myself.
    >>
    >>Isn't it funny how minor suggestions get the young ones
    >>moving? ;-)
    >>
    >>"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>> hehehe - getting him out of bed was the easy part. Just
    >>> told him, 'you
    >>aren't
    >>> going to girlfriends until we get a set of weights ...
    >>> you want to sleep,
    >>you're
    >>> decision. Mama isn't sharing nice today". Funny - the
    >>> kid was up and
    >>showered,
    >>> ready to go in 10 minutes. Made it to the bank (deposit
    >>> his paycheck),
    >>post
    >>> office (mail my bills), sports store and home in about
    >>> 40 minutes.
    >>>
    >>> He really seemed to want that higher weight set, so we
    >>> went with it.
    >>Wierd
    >>> though, says 110 lb weight set 100# ... so is it 100
    >>> pounds or 110 pounds?
    >>And
    >>> the plates amount to 80 pounds (4 - 10's, 6 - 5's, 4 -
    >>> 2.5's), not 100 or
    >>110 -
    >>> maybe the bars themselves add the other weight? Came
    >>> with barbell and two dumbells - 6 thick metal screw type
    >>> collars (he wanted the spring ones but
    >>said it
    >>> really wasn't a big deal - he lost). Was only $49.99 ...
    >>> $10 more than
    >>the 40
    >>> pound handweight set. I'm happy, he's happy, guess it
    >>> turned out ok. He unloaded, was out the door in a flash.
    >>>
    >>> Joyce
    >>>
    >>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:05:19 -0600, "skiur"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >Good point. I hope you got him out of bed w/o too much
    >>> >hassle.
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> >news:[email protected]...
    >>> >> The only problem I see with the 100 pound set is that
    >>> >> he may not use it
    >>at
    >>> >all.
    >>> >> It's not so much a matter of outgrowing it, as
    >>> >> whether it will be
    >>> >detrimental to
    >>> >> his training. He is a pitcher, not really going for
    >>> >> strong man stuff -
    >>> >and has to
    >>> >> be very careful with how and what he develops. It
    >>> >> will be something we
    >>> >will need
    >>> >> to discuss while out shopping.
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Joyce
    >>> >>
    >>> >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:12:30 -0600, "skiur"
    >>> >> <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >> >For what it's worth, I'd go with the 100 pound set.
    >>> >> >Your son may progress quicker and faster than you
    >>> >> >and might outgrow
    >>the
    >>> >40
    >>> >> >lb set faster than you think.
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >my two cents
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >Julie
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> >> >news:eek:[email protected]...
    >>> >> >> I think I found what I'm going to get - need to
    >>> >> >> run it past the dear
    >>> >boy.
    >>> >> >I found
    >>> >> >> 2 sets ... one is a 100 pound set, includes the
    >>> >> >> handweights and also
    >>> >the
    >>> >> >barbell
    >>> >> >> for going higher (not sure what the kid wants) -
    >>> >> >> was $60 at one of
    >>the
    >>> >> >sports
    >>> >> >> stores. Options for the hand weight sets were
    >>> >> >> slim, seems the
    >>sports
    >>> >> >stores
    >>> >> >> around me don't like to stock the sets. I found
    >>> >> >> one 40 pound set
    >>for
    >>> >$20
    >>> >> >but it
    >>> >> >> had plastic screw on collars ... I'm not ovely
    >>> >> >> thrilled with the
    >>> >concept
    >>> >> >of using
    >>> >> >> plastic, am afraid it would break if constantly
    >>> >> >> being changed (which
    >>> >could
    >>> >> >happen
    >>> >> >> with multiple users). Target had a 40 pound set in
    >>> >> >> the briefcase
    >>> >storage
    >>> >> >thing
    >>> >> >> ... sports authority had a 40 pound set that would
    >>> >> >> just be laying in
    >>> >the
    >>> >> >box for
    >>> >> >> storage - probably would be ok ... Both were $40.
    >>> >> >> The other option
    >>I
    >>> >ran
    >>> >> >into was
    >>> >> >> buying the plates individually and the gripper
    >>> >> >> things individually -
    >>> >think
    >>> >> >I
    >>> >> >> figured that would also run around $40 for the
    >>> >> >> same 40 pound set.
    >>Oh
    >>> >> >dear,
    >>> >> >> whatever shall I do???
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> I was looking online at a set, but have a feeling
    >>> >> >> shipping will cost
    >>a
    >>> >> >small
    >>> >> >> fortune. What confused me online was the
    >>> >> >> description and picture
    >>...
    >>> >> >picture
    >>> >> >> looked like the steel screw on collar - but
    >>> >> >> description said *spring
    >>> >> >lock*. What
    >>> >> >> am I messing up here?
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> Joyce
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:35:46 GMT, "Lesanne"
    >>> >> >> <[email protected]>
    >>> >wrote:
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >Those little bolts do Suck. I have the ones that
    >>> >> >> >are a collar in
    >>> >> >themselves
    >>> >> >> >that screws onto the bar. It can't fall off
    >>> >> >> >unless you let it
    >>unscrew
    >>> >> >> >itself about 3 inches of bar, and the plates
    >>> >> >> >would be rattling all
    >>> >over.
    >>> >> >> >Dummy proof. Trust me.
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>> >> >> >message news:[email protected]
    >>> >> >> >4ax.com...
    >>> >> >> >> I recall years ago, a friend was lifting dumb
    >>> >> >> >> bells that were
    >>held
    >>> >by
    >>> >> >> >> the colloar with the little square bolt. Damn
    >>> >> >> >> thing came lose
    >>and
    >>> >> >> >> about 3 plates slipped off one end and the bar
    >>> >> >> >> slipped through
    >>the
    >>> >> >> >> central collar and crashed down the other way.
    >>> >> >> >> BAD news. I have
    >>> >the
    >>> >> >> >> spring clips.
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:41:53 GMT, "Lesanne"
    >><[email protected]>
    >>> >> >> >> wrote:
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >Falling off is not the Major problem for me,
    >>> >> >> >> >ease of changing
    >>the
    >>> >> >plates
    >>> >> >> >is
    >>> >> >> >> >what I like about the screw on ones, and
    >>> >> >> >> >general durability.
    >>The
    >>> >ones
    >>> >> >I
    >>> >> >> >got
    >>> >> >> >> >with the squeeze thing are a real pain in the
    >>> >> >> >> >butt.
    >>> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message news-
    >>> >> >> >> >:[email protected]
    >>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:24:59 +0100, Marc
    >>> >> >> >> >> Heimann
    >>> >> >> >> ><marc.heim[email protected]>
    >>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> >Joyce wrote:
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> Ok, I am now moving into purchasing some
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> weights, so these
    >>> >> >> >advertised
    >>> >> >> >> >in the Good
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> Housekeeping magazine. Are these a good
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> deal? Is a 40
    >>pound
    >>> >> >limit
    >>> >> >> >> >good? I was
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> thinking this might be good enough for
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> me, as well as my
    >>son
    >>> >who
    >>> >> >is
    >>> >> >> >> >obviously
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> stronger. And shipping is free! Any
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> advice or info would
    >>be
    >>> >> >> >greatly
    >>> >> >> >> >appreciated.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >>
    >>>
    >>>>>>http://www.spriproducts.com/subcategory.cfm?category_-
    >>>>>>id=61&subcategory_i
    >>d
    >>> >=
    >>> >> >2
    >>> >> >> >68&CFID=304229&CFTOKEN=32186185
    >>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> >> Joyce
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >Assuming your not into Powerlifting or
    >>> >> >> >> >> >hardcore Body Building
    >>40
    >>> >> >lbs
    >>> >> >> >(or
    >>> >> >> >> >> >30 as you found out later :) ) is enough.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >Head to a local sports store and have a
    >>> >> >> >> >> >look at the weights
    >>they
    >>> >> >have.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >As mentioned by previous posters pay close
    >>> >> >> >> >> >attention to the
    >>way
    >>> >the
    >>> >> >> >> >> >plates are secured.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >I've seen some that are using a screw
    >>> >> >> >> >> >thread to secure them.
    >>> >Easy,
    >>> >> >> >fast
    >>> >> >> >> >> >and secure.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >Take a look here
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >and here
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >to get started.
    >>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >> >> >Cheers Marc
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the info Marc, I've bookmarked
    >>> >> >> >> >> the sites and will
    >>look
    >>> >> >into
    >>> >> >> >> >them
    >>> >> >> >> >> tomorrow. I am definitely not looking
    >>> >> >> >> >> towards powerlifting or
    >>> >> >> >> >bodybuilding, am
    >>> >> >> >> >> only going for strength training. I have 3
    >>> >> >> >> >> sports stores very
    >>> >near
    >>> >> >me,
    >>> >> >> >> >will head
    >>> >> >> >> >> out tomorrow and do some investigating. I
    >>> >> >> >> >> didn't realize that
    >>> >the
    >>> >> >ways
    >>> >> >> >> >the plates
    >>> >> >> >> >> secured were so different, am glad to have
    >>> >> >> >> >> everyone tell me
    >>that
    >>> >> >this
    >>> >> >> >is
    >>> >> >> >> >something
    >>> >> >> >> >> to pay attention to. The last thing I need
    >>> >> >> >> >> is those weights
    >>> >falling
    >>> >> >> >off
    >>> >> >> >> >on me.
    >>> >> >> >> >> <g>
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >> Joyce
    >>> >> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >
    >>> >>
    >>> >
    >>
     
  6. Fred

    Fred Guest

    You know that could refer to snacking, too (G)

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:03:23 -0600, Prairie Roots
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Let me repeat: start light, concentrate on form, then
    >increase weight when it becomes easy.
    >
    >On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:34:38 -0600, Joyce
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I was thinking of starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had
    >>a good point ... 5 pounds might be a better option while
    >>learning and getting myself into the swing of things
     
  7. Perfecting my snacking form is what got me to needing WW in
    the first place.

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:03:21 -0800, Fred
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >You know that could refer to snacking, too (G)
    >
    >On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:03:23 -0600, Prairie Roots
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Let me repeat: start light, concentrate on form, then
    >>increase weight when it becomes easy.
    >>
    >>On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:34:38 -0600, Joyce
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>I was thinking of starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had
    >>>a good point ... 5 pounds might be a better option while
    >>>learning and getting myself into the swing of things

    Linda P
    232/159.6/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
     
  8. Prairie Roots <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Let me repeat: start light, concentrate on form, then
    >increase weight when it becomes easy.
    >
    Actually-you might considering increasing the number of
    reps or the number of lifts within a rep before
    increasing weight.

    Mary
     
  9. Joyce

    Joyce Guest

    hehehe - I heard you and Marc loud and clear. I'm going slow
    and easy on this.

    Joyce

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 11:03:23 -0600, Prairie Roots
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Let me repeat: start light, concentrate on form, then
    >increase weight when it becomes easy.
    >
    >On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:34:38 -0600, Joyce
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I was thinking of starting with 10, but Lesanne or PR had
    >>a good point ... 5 pounds might be a better option while
    >>learning and getting myself into the swing of things
     
  10. Joyce

    Joyce Guest

    hehehe I prefer to think of it as *creative thinking*, and
    there is no crime in that. <g> Us mom's do what we have to
    do in order to accomplish the goal.

    Joyce

    On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 08:57:47 -0800, Fred
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >You know, extortion, is a crime - except, maybe when
    >attached to motherhood! (G)
    >
    >On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 02:54:34 -0600, Joyce
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Yup, was quick and easy. I did most of the legwork
    >>yesterday, so had our options sorted out before dragging
    >>son out of bed this morning. We ended up at Sportmart, is
    >>the closest store to the house - straight down Roosevelt
    >>about 2 miles. This set wasn't the original one I looked
    >>at, these were $10 cheaper ... and at this point I figured
    >>weights were weights ... knew he wanted the barbell, I
    >>wanted the dumbells and screw collars - the rest didn't
    >>matter much.
    >>
    >>Sonny boy has never been overly difficult to get out of
    >>bed (daughter is an entirely different story), but putting
    >>the game plan in the open and letting him know he was in
    >>control of his own destiny - does change things a bit. I
    >>might try this with more things, probably would get a lot
    >>more man-work completed around the house. <G>
    >>
    >>Joyce
    >>
    >>On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:58:19 -0600, "skiur"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>That's it? Great deal! Where did you go? I have to
    >>>consider this for myself.
    >>>
    >>>Isn't it funny how minor suggestions get the young ones
    >>>moving? ;-)
    >>>
    >>>"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>> hehehe - getting him out of bed was the easy part. Just
    >>>> told him, 'you
    >>>aren't
    >>>> going to girlfriends until we get a set of weights ...
    >>>> you want to sleep,
    >>>you're
    >>>> decision. Mama isn't sharing nice today". Funny - the
    >>>> kid was up and
    >>>showered,
    >>>> ready to go in 10 minutes. Made it to the bank (deposit
    >>>> his paycheck),
    >>>post
    >>>> office (mail my bills), sports store and home in about
    >>>> 40 minutes.
    >>>>
    >>>> He really seemed to want that higher weight set, so we
    >>>> went with it.
    >>>Wierd
    >>>> though, says 110 lb weight set 100# ... so is it 100
    >>>> pounds or 110 pounds?
    >>>And
    >>>> the plates amount to 80 pounds (4 - 10's, 6 - 5's, 4 -
    >>>> 2.5's), not 100 or
    >>>110 -
    >>>> maybe the bars themselves add the other weight? Came
    >>>> with barbell and two dumbells - 6 thick metal screw
    >>>> type collars (he wanted the spring ones but
    >>>said it
    >>>> really wasn't a big deal - he lost). Was only $49.99
    >>>> ... $10 more than
    >>>the 40
    >>>> pound handweight set. I'm happy, he's happy, guess it
    >>>> turned out ok. He unloaded, was out the door in a
    >>>> flash.
    >>>>
    >>>> Joyce
    >>>>
    >>>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:05:19 -0600, "skiur"
    >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> >Good point. I hope you got him out of bed w/o too much
    >>>> >hassle.
    >>>> >
    >>>> >
    >>>> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> >news:[email protected]...
    >>>> >> The only problem I see with the 100 pound set is
    >>>> >> that he may not use it
    >>>at
    >>>> >all.
    >>>> >> It's not so much a matter of outgrowing it, as
    >>>> >> whether it will be
    >>>> >detrimental to
    >>>> >> his training. He is a pitcher, not really going for
    >>>> >> strong man stuff -
    >>>> >and has to
    >>>> >> be very careful with how and what he develops. It
    >>>> >> will be something we
    >>>> >will need
    >>>> >> to discuss while out shopping.
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> Joyce
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 18:12:30 -0600, "skiur"
    >>>> >> <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> >For what it's worth, I'd go with the 100 pound set.
    >>>> >> >Your son may progress quicker and faster than you
    >>>> >> >and might outgrow
    >>>the
    >>>> >40
    >>>> >> >lb set faster than you think.
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >> >my two cents
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >> >Julie
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> >> >news:eek:[email protected]...
    >>>> >> >> I think I found what I'm going to get - need to
    >>>> >> >> run it past the dear
    >>>> >boy.
    >>>> >> >I found
    >>>> >> >> 2 sets ... one is a 100 pound set, includes the
    >>>> >> >> handweights and also
    >>>> >the
    >>>> >> >barbell
    >>>> >> >> for going higher (not sure what the kid wants) -
    >>>> >> >> was $60 at one of
    >>>the
    >>>> >> >sports
    >>>> >> >> stores. Options for the hand weight sets were
    >>>> >> >> slim, seems the
    >>>sports
    >>>> >> >stores
    >>>> >> >> around me don't like to stock the sets. I found
    >>>> >> >> one 40 pound set
    >>>for
    >>>> >$20
    >>>> >> >but it
    >>>> >> >> had plastic screw on collars ... I'm not ovely
    >>>> >> >> thrilled with the
    >>>> >concept
    >>>> >> >of using
    >>>> >> >> plastic, am afraid it would break if constantly
    >>>> >> >> being changed (which
    >>>> >could
    >>>> >> >happen
    >>>> >> >> with multiple users). Target had a 40 pound set
    >>>> >> >> in the briefcase
    >>>> >storage
    >>>> >> >thing
    >>>> >> >> ... sports authority had a 40 pound set that
    >>>> >> >> would just be laying in
    >>>> >the
    >>>> >> >box for
    >>>> >> >> storage - probably would be ok ... Both were $40.
    >>>> >> >> The other option
    >>>I
    >>>> >ran
    >>>> >> >into was
    >>>> >> >> buying the plates individually and the gripper
    >>>> >> >> things individually -
    >>>> >think
    >>>> >> >I
    >>>> >> >> figured that would also run around $40 for the
    >>>> >> >> same 40 pound set.
    >>>Oh
    >>>> >> >dear,
    >>>> >> >> whatever shall I do???
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> I was looking online at a set, but have a feeling
    >>>> >> >> shipping will cost
    >>>a
    >>>> >> >small
    >>>> >> >> fortune. What confused me online was the
    >>>> >> >> description and picture
    >>>...
    >>>> >> >picture
    >>>> >> >> looked like the steel screw on collar - but
    >>>> >> >> description said *spring
    >>>> >> >lock*. What
    >>>> >> >> am I messing up here?
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> Joyce
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 18:35:46 GMT, "Lesanne"
    >>>> >> >> <[email protected]>
    >>>> >wrote:
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >Those little bolts do Suck. I have the ones that
    >>>> >> >> >are a collar in
    >>>> >> >themselves
    >>>> >> >> >that screws onto the bar. It can't fall off
    >>>> >> >> >unless you let it
    >>>unscrew
    >>>> >> >> >itself about 3 inches of bar, and the plates
    >>>> >> >> >would be rattling all
    >>>> >over.
    >>>> >> >> >Dummy proof. Trust me.
    >>>> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>>> >> >> >message news:t7ah409bgnibhtfjr0tt6975c82t0thokb-
    >>>> >> >> >@4ax.com...
    >>>> >> >> >> I recall years ago, a friend was lifting dumb
    >>>> >> >> >> bells that were
    >>>held
    >>>> >by
    >>>> >> >> >> the colloar with the little square bolt. Damn
    >>>> >> >> >> thing came lose
    >>>and
    >>>> >> >> >> about 3 plates slipped off one end and the bar
    >>>> >> >> >> slipped through
    >>>the
    >>>> >> >> >> central collar and crashed down the other way.
    >>>> >> >> >> BAD news. I have
    >>>> >the
    >>>> >> >> >> spring clips.
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:41:53 GMT, "Lesanne"
    >>><[email protected]>
    >>>> >> >> >> wrote:
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >Falling off is not the Major problem for me,
    >>>> >> >> >> >ease of changing
    >>>the
    >>>> >> >plates
    >>>> >> >> >is
    >>>> >> >> >> >what I like about the screw on ones, and
    >>>> >> >> >> >general durability.
    >>>The
    >>>> >ones
    >>>> >> >I
    >>>> >> >> >got
    >>>> >> >> >> >with the squeeze thing are a real pain in the
    >>>> >> >> >> >butt.
    >>>> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message new-
    >>>> >> >> >> >s:[email protected]
    >>>> >> >> >> >...
    >>>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:24:59 +0100, Marc
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Heimann
    >>>> >> >> >> ><[email protected]>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >Joyce wrote:
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Ok, I am now moving into purchasing some
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> weights, so these
    >>>> >> >> >advertised
    >>>> >> >> >> >in the Good
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Housekeeping magazine. Are these a good
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> deal? Is a 40
    >>>pound
    >>>> >> >limit
    >>>> >> >> >> >good? I was
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> thinking this might be good enough for
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> me, as well as my
    >>>son
    >>>> >who
    >>>> >> >is
    >>>> >> >> >> >obviously
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> stronger. And shipping is free! Any
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> advice or info would
    >>>be
    >>>> >> >> >greatly
    >>>> >> >> >> >appreciated.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>http://www.spriproducts.com/subcategory.cfm?category-
    >>>>>>>_id=61&subcategory_i
    >>>d
    >>>> >=
    >>>> >> >2
    >>>> >> >> >68&CFID=304229&CFTOKEN=32186185
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Joyce
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >Assuming your not into Powerlifting or
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >hardcore Body Building
    >>>40
    >>>> >> >lbs
    >>>> >> >> >(or
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >30 as you found out later :) ) is enough.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >Head to a local sports store and have a
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >look at the weights
    >>>they
    >>>> >> >have.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >As mentioned by previous posters pay close
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >attention to the
    >>>way
    >>>> >the
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >plates are secured.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >I've seen some that are using a screw
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >thread to secure them.
    >>>> >Easy,
    >>>> >> >> >fast
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >and secure.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >Take a look here
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >and here
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >to get started.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >> >> >Cheers Marc
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the info Marc, I've bookmarked
    >>>> >> >> >> >> the sites and will
    >>>look
    >>>> >> >into
    >>>> >> >> >> >them
    >>>> >> >> >> >> tomorrow. I am definitely not looking
    >>>> >> >> >> >> towards powerlifting or
    >>>> >> >> >> >bodybuilding, am
    >>>> >> >> >> >> only going for strength training. I have 3
    >>>> >> >> >> >> sports stores very
    >>>> >near
    >>>> >> >me,
    >>>> >> >> >> >will head
    >>>> >> >> >> >> out tomorrow and do some investigating. I
    >>>> >> >> >> >> didn't realize that
    >>>> >the
    >>>> >> >ways
    >>>> >> >> >> >the plates
    >>>> >> >> >> >> secured were so different, am glad to have
    >>>> >> >> >> >> everyone tell me
    >>>that
    >>>> >> >this
    >>>> >> >> >is
    >>>> >> >> >> >something
    >>>> >> >> >> >> to pay attention to. The last thing I need
    >>>> >> >> >> >> is those weights
    >>>> >falling
    >>>> >> >> >off
    >>>> >> >> >> >on me.
    >>>> >> >> >> >> <g>
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >> Joyce
    >>>> >> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >> >>
    >>>> >> >> >
    >>>> >> >>
    >>>> >> >
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >
    >>>>
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