Frame Pump ratings...

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  1. Ajames54™

    Ajames54™ Guest

    Is there anyone who makes available any sort of rating system for frame or mini - pumps?

    I had a print-out years ago that listed Max pressure and number of strokes required (assuming a
    standard tire size) for a variety of different pumps...

    It was quite interesting... and I would love an updated version...
     
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  2. Ken

    Ken Guest

    ajames54™ <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    > Is there anyone who makes available any sort of rating system for frame or mini - pumps? I had a
    > print-out years ago that listed Max pressure and number of strokes required (assuming a standard
    > tire size) for a variety of different pumps...

    I've seen ratings like that in some of the bike catalogs. I don't trust them, though.
     
  3. On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:23:45 +0000, Ken wrote:

    > ajames54™ <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    >> Is there anyone who makes available any sort of rating system for frame or mini - pumps? I had a
    >> print-out years ago that listed Max pressure and number of strokes required (assuming a standard
    >> tire size) for a variety of different pumps...
    >
    > I've seen ratings like that in some of the bike catalogs. I don't trust them, though.

    I don't think they measure the right things. It does not really matter how many strokes, but whether
    or not the thing can fill a tire up to a decent pressure without either taking all day, or taking
    all your energy.

    For my money, the Topeak Road Morph is the best.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or _`\(,_ | that we are to
    stand by the president right or wrong, is not (_)/ (_) | only unpatriotic and servile, but is
    morally treasonable to the American public. --Theodore Roosevelt
     
  4. David L. Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

    : For my money, the Topeak Road Morph is the best.

    Where and how do you mount the thing on your bike since they don't come with a mounting kit (AFAIK)?

    I use a really small but well made SKS pump and it has proven itself a number of times. Admittedly,
    I only stuck with the pumping to the point where I figured I could make it home OK - around 65psi -
    any more was a bit pointless. I had a situation about a year back when I rode 60ks on about 70psi
    from a CO2 cylinder after repairing a flat. So while the correct pressures are reassuring, most
    riders can cope with 20% less in an 'emergency'.

    Cheerz, Lynzz
     
  5. David Ornee

    David Ornee Guest

    "Lindsay Rowlands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > David L. Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : For my money, the Topeak Road Morph is the best.
    >
    > Where and how do you mount the thing on your bike since they don't come with a mounting kit
    > (AFAIK)?
    >
    > I use a really small but well made SKS pump and it has proven itself a number of times.
    > Admittedly, I only stuck with the pumping to the point where I figured I could make it home OK -
    > around 65psi - any more was a bit pointless. I had a situation about a year back when I rode 60ks
    > on about 70psi from a CO2 cylinder after repairing a flat. So while the correct pressures are
    > reassuring, most riders can cope with 20% less in an 'emergency'.
    >
    > Cheerz, Lynzz

    The Topeak Road Morph I purchased came with a simple yet elegent mounting. It puts one band around
    the top tube and has a quick release "button" to remove the pump for use.

    I agree with David, this whing works well for me.

    David Ornee, Western Springs, IL
     
  6. On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 02:13:04 +0000, Lindsay Rowlands wrote:

    > David L. Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : For my money, the Topeak Road Morph is the best.
    >
    > Where and how do you mount the thing on your bike since they don't come with a mounting kit
    > (AFAIK)?

    Mine came with a little bracket that is still working fine. Some people complain about that bracket
    breaking easily, but so far, so good.

    >
    > I use a really small but well made SKS pump and it has proven itself a number of times.
    > Admittedly, I only stuck with the pumping to the point where I figured I could make it home OK -
    > around 65psi - any more was a bit pointless.

    Huh? 65lbs for most of us (unless that also describes your weight) would also be pointless. That
    kind of pressure will produce pinch flats.

    I used my pump on a tour last Summer, as my only pump. I can easily, and I really mean it, pump the
    tires to 110lbs or more. The gauge on mine is even fairly accurate.

    > I had a situation about a year back when I rode 60ks on about 70psi from a CO2 cylinder after
    >repairing a flat.

    That being a big problem with CO2. When using those, I would have a half-empty cylinder in the
    inflator, and use that to get about 30 lbs in the tire. Then I's put in a new cylinder, which would
    get me more like 90-100, and would leave quite a bit of gas in the cylinder, that I would save for
    next time.

    But no matter how you arrange it, with CO2 there is always a limited supply of cartridges. A very
    bad day would be made worse by having no way to fill a tire. Pumps are better.

    --

    David L. Johnson

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    Even Nazis can't kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).
     
  7. Dane Jackson

    Dane Jackson Guest

    Lindsay Rowlands <[email protected]> wrote:
    > David L. Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : For my money, the Topeak Road Morph is the best.

    I will definitely agree with that sentiment.

    > Where and how do you mount the thing on your bike since they don't come with a mounting kit
    > (AFAIK)?

    I had the mount from another pump that I decided was not cutting the mustard. The mount that came
    with the Topeak is not a great design if you have the big ovalized Al tubes. Luckily the mount from
    the old pump fit the Road Morph perfectly. So I chucked it in my old pumps mount and it was ducky.

    --
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    condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer
     
  8. Ken

    Ken Guest

    "David Ornee" <[email protected]> wrote in news:6dNka.2826$kd1.2875485
    @newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:
    > The Topeak Road Morph I purchased came with a simple yet elegent mounting. It puts one band around
    > the top tube and has a quick release "button" to remove the pump for use.

    I also have a Topeak Road Morph. Good pump, but I think the mount really sucks. It's a big piece of
    plastic. I mounted the pump on my top tube and the plastic thing keeps hitting my leg. Many people
    in my club have the same pump and also hate the mount.
     
  9. Terry Morse

    Terry Morse Guest

    Ken, who has no last name, wrote:

    > I also have a Topeak Road Morph. Good pump, but I think the mount really sucks. It's a big piece
    > of plastic. I mounted the pump on my top tube and the plastic thing keeps hitting my leg.

    Try mounting it under your down tube, if you have the tire clearance. My wife mounted her Road Morph
    there, and it doesn't bother her in the least.
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Guest

    rating - Performance sometimes has some numbers listed in their catalog. They show strokes needed to
    put a road tire to high pressure and a mtb tire to medium pressure. Of course their brand pumps also
    have great numbers.

    Your choice of pump depends on what you like the most - ease of pumping to a minimal pressure - 70
    is enough for me to get home, but when I'm touring I want full pressure (100 to 110) weight, size,
    ease of attachment reliabillity - does it ever fail reusability - CO2 works once, so if you use them
    I'd suggest also carring a pump for backup features - pressure gauge / style of valve attachment

    for day rides my preference is a cheap, extremely light, short (6") pump which just pushes on the
    valve (no thumblock) - Torelli

    for touring I use the small Blackburn or Silca

    -Bruce
     
  11. John Everett

    John Everett Guest

    On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 05:33:36 +0000 (UTC), Ken <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"David Ornee" <[email protected]> wrote in news:6dNka.2826$kd1.2875485
    >@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com:
    >> The Topeak Road Morph I purchased came with a simple yet elegent mounting. It puts one band
    >> around the top tube and has a quick release "button" to remove the pump for use.
    >
    >I also have a Topeak Road Morph. Good pump, but I think the mount really sucks. It's a big piece of
    >plastic. I mounted the pump on my top tube and the plastic thing keeps hitting my leg.

    The only thing that hit my leg was the excess end of the band that goes around the top tube. I
    trimmed it off and now there's no problem.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3
     
  12. Jon Isaacs wrote:
    >
    > A while back I timed myself pumping up a 700C x 23 using a Zefal HPX-4. 135 psi in 60 seconds.
    >

    That sounds awesome. I did a search and only found a Zefal HPX-73. It did pump to 135 psi however.
    Could that be the same pump in a new wrapper?

    --
    Perre

    Remove and/or replace the DOTs as needed to reply
     
  13. David L. Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >But no matter how you arrange it, with CO2 there is always a limited supply of cartridges. A very
    >bad day would be made worse by having no way to fill a tire. Pumps are better.

    I think you are missing the correct way to use CO2 cartridges. When the silly things let you down,
    remain visible, clutching the offending device in your hand. Within 15 minutes someone with a Zefal
    HPX will pass by and mock the inflator you have before blowing up your tyres. :)
    --
    David Damerell <[email protected]> flcl?
     
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