Frame size

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by Brendan Webb, Feb 23, 2006.

  1. Brendan Webb

    Brendan Webb Guest

    wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    Query now is...
    I'm 194cm tall with a 93cm inside seam. Been to a few different shops,
    one guy recomended a Merida 904 (semi compact frame)as a good bike, good
    value. I think he said he was of to Europe to ride on some senior
    events, either way, he rode a lot, but was employed to put bikes
    together, not necessarily fit them to riders. The other chap recommended
    a traditional frame (60cm). This guy owned the shop, rode a bit. His
    reasoning was that with a semi or compact the seat post would need to be
    raised a heap, making it extra flexible. A traditional frame could be
    large enough to remove that problem.

    Any thoughts??

    Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.
     
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  2. On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:05:13 +0800, Brendan Webb wrote:

    > together, not necessarily fit them to riders. The other chap recommended
    > a traditional frame (60cm). This guy owned the shop, rode a bit. His
    > reasoning was that with a semi or compact the seat post would need to be
    > raised a heap, making it extra flexible. A traditional frame could be
    > large enough to remove that problem.


    How much would the seatpost stick out on a XL compact frame? Mine
    has about 20cm showing, and there's no feeling of flex at all. A large
    enough trad frame would have more inherent flex, anyway, so it's
    possibly there either way.

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  3. Bleve

    Bleve Guest

    Brendan Webb wrote:
    > wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    > Query now is...
    > I'm 194cm tall with a 93cm inside seam. Been to a few different shops,
    > one guy recomended a Merida 904 (semi compact frame)as a good bike, good
    > value. I think he said he was of to Europe to ride on some senior
    > events, either way, he rode a lot, but was employed to put bikes
    > together, not necessarily fit them to riders. The other chap recommended
    > a traditional frame (60cm). This guy owned the shop, rode a bit. His
    > reasoning was that with a semi or compact the seat post would need to be
    > raised a heap, making it extra flexible. A traditional frame could be
    > large enough to remove that problem.
    >
    > Any thoughts??


    Which one feels better? Ride them all ....
     
  4. doug thomas

    doug thomas Guest

    "Brendan Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike. Query
    > now is...
    > I'm 194cm tall with a 93cm inside seam. Been to a few different shops, one
    > guy recomended a Merida 904 (semi compact frame)as a good bike, good
    > value. I think he said he was of to Europe to ride on some senior events,
    > either way, he rode a lot, but was employed to put bikes together, not
    > necessarily fit them to riders. The other chap recommended a traditional
    > frame (60cm). This guy owned the shop, rode a bit. His reasoning was that
    > with a semi or compact the seat post would need to be raised a heap,
    > making it extra flexible. A traditional frame could be large enough to
    > remove that problem.
    >
    > Any thoughts??
    >
    > Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.


    1. If you are not getting properly fitted, don't buy a bike there. If the
    service is bad now, what happens after you have bought?

    2. There are a number of sites on the internet that will help you with bike
    fitting - start there.

    Douig Thomas
     
  5. Nick Payne

    Nick Payne Guest

    60cm sounds way too small a frame. I'm 178cm with an 88cm inseam, and I ride
    61 and 63cm frames, which allow me to have the bars not too far below the
    saddle. Even if you get a long enough seatpost to get the saddle the
    correct height, you need to make sure that you can get the bars to a
    comfortable height.

    The only place I'm aware of that has off the shelf frames in sizes bigger
    than 63cm or so is Rivendell, who have them up to 68cm. They also have a
    reasonably sensible article on sizing a frame:
    http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_framesize.html.

    Nick

    "Brendan Webb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike. Query
    > now is...
    > I'm 194cm tall with a 93cm inside seam. Been to a few different shops, one
    > guy recomended a Merida 904 (semi compact frame)as a good bike, good
    > value. I think he said he was of to Europe to ride on some senior events,
    > either way, he rode a lot, but was employed to put bikes together, not
    > necessarily fit them to riders. The other chap recommended a traditional
    > frame (60cm). This guy owned the shop, rode a bit. His reasoning was that
    > with a semi or compact the seat post would need to be raised a heap,
    > making it extra flexible. A traditional frame could be large enough to
    > remove that problem.
     
  6. Bean Long

    Bean Long Guest

    Brendan Webb wrote:
    > wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    > Query now is...
    > I'm a big guy...need a big bike...
    > Any thoughts??
    >
    > Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.


    If your LBS can't fit you out properly, try another LBS.

    --
    Bean

    Remove "yourfinger" before replying
     
  7. Brendan Webb

    Brendan Webb Guest

    Bean Long wrote:
    > Brendan Webb wrote:
    >
    >> wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    >> Query now is...
    >> I'm a big guy...need a big bike...
    >> Any thoughts??
    >>
    >> Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.

    >
    >
    > If your LBS can't fit you out properly, try another LBS.
    >

    My feeling was that I've been given different advice from different
    shops, and being a newbie, I am not sure which is 'more' right out of
    the two.
     
  8. Bean Long

    Bean Long Guest

    Brendan Webb wrote:
    > Bean Long wrote:
    >> Brendan Webb wrote:
    >>
    >>> wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    >>> Query now is...
    >>> I'm a big guy...need a big bike...
    >>> Any thoughts??
    >>>
    >>> Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.

    >>
    >>
    >> If your LBS can't fit you out properly, try another LBS.
    >>

    > My feeling was that I've been given different advice from different
    > shops, and being a newbie, I am not sure which is 'more' right out of
    > the two.


    If the LBS is willing to get you on the bike and take some time
    adjusting things until YOU are happy with the feel, then they are the
    ones to go with. You don't just need advice, you need a bit of action!

    --
    Bean

    Remove "yourfinger" before replying
     
  9. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Take a tape measure with you because every bike manufacturer measures a
    seat-tube differently
    Top tube & head tube length nowadays are much more critical (ie within 2cm)
    than a seat tube length.
    Make sure you get them to try different headstems , it only take a minute or
    two to swap to a longer/shorter headstem , also all our customers that leave
    with a bike have the option of swapping an unmarked stem & seat within the
    first couple of months. Remember try & find experienced staff with an
    allen-key & a carpark rather than a shop with nice carpets a bike-fitting
    program who will print out a list of your optimum-fit bikes all over $4000
    :))
    Steve
    Ideal WA


    "Bean Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Brendan Webb wrote:
    >> Bean Long wrote:
    >>> Brendan Webb wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> wrote earlier regarding frame v components when buying a first bike.
    >>>> Query now is...
    >>>> I'm a big guy...need a big bike...
    >>>> Any thoughts??
    >>>>
    >>>> Leaning towards either a GTR Series 2, Inexa X1 or Felt F75.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> If your LBS can't fit you out properly, try another LBS.
    >>>

    >> My feeling was that I've been given different advice from different
    >> shops, and being a newbie, I am not sure which is 'more' right out of the
    >> two.

    >
    > If the LBS is willing to get you on the bike and take some time adjusting
    > things until YOU are happy with the feel, then they are the ones to go
    > with. You don't just need advice, you need a bit of action!
    >
    > --
    > Bean
    >
    > Remove "yourfinger" before replying
     
  10. rooman

    rooman New Member

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    please read the threads on Bike Fit... there are many..bottom line...

    especially for a newby...

    get a fit...

    you will save hours of agony, lots of money and heaps of anguish by finding out from a specialist ( and I dont mean a local bike shop) just where your physiology fits in space in relation to your pedal stroke.

    ranging from $150 to $300 ...money in MHO well spent you will have the dimensions for a frame that you can carry with you to ensure a correct fit.

    You dont have to get a bike from the guy/gal who fits you...their job is to look at your anatomy, discuss your aspirations, see how your physiology works and put that together with a spec to deliver power, comfort and performance for your aspirations and capability.

    It isnt just about top tube length or stand over height....OK!...

    every aspect of a frame dimension specification must be right for YOU.

    Please for your own sake...get a professional fit, not some computer fit kit of the internet...the fit requires some one to actually look at you and talk to you.

    Get to a fit studio, do yourself a favour...and enjoy your cycling beyond measure...because in the end that is what you want to do.
     
  11. Gags

    Gags Guest

    "Nick Payne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > 60cm sounds way too small a frame. I'm 178cm with an 88cm inseam, and I

    ride
    > 61 and 63cm frames, which allow me to have the bars not too far below the
    > saddle. Even if you get a long enough seatpost to get the saddle the
    > correct height, you need to make sure that you can get the bars to a
    > comfortable height.
    >
    > The only place I'm aware of that has off the shelf frames in sizes bigger
    > than 63cm or so is Rivendell, who have them up to 68cm. They also have a
    > reasonably sensible article on sizing a frame:
    > http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_framesize.html.
    >


    I am about 196cm with 96cm inseam and according to the chart on the rivbike
    site I should be on a 68cm frame!!! Holy hell......I am currently on a 63cm
    frame that is massive (Dutch and I noticed that my rear triangle was bigger
    than the front triangle on someone's Giant at the Kew crits on Wednesday)
    and I have problems even imagining a 68cm frame. Where the hell would you
    find a fork long enough to fit the headstem on a frame like that???

    Would look pretty weird with 700c tyres.....can you get 29" road tyres??

    Gags
     
  12. Gags

    Gags Guest

    "Nick Payne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > 60cm sounds way too small a frame. I'm 178cm with an 88cm inseam, and I

    ride
    > 61 and 63cm frames, which allow me to have the bars not too far below the
    > saddle. Even if you get a long enough seatpost to get the saddle the
    > correct height, you need to make sure that you can get the bars to a
    > comfortable height.
    >
    > The only place I'm aware of that has off the shelf frames in sizes bigger
    > than 63cm or so is Rivendell, who have them up to 68cm. They also have a
    > reasonably sensible article on sizing a frame:
    > http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_framesize.html.
    >


    I am about 196cm with 96cm inseam and according to the chart on the rivbike
    site I should be on a 68cm frame!!! Holy hell......I am currently on a 63cm
    frame that is massive (Dutch and I noticed that my rear triangle was bigger
    than the front triangle on someone's Giant at the Kew crits on Wednesday)
    and I have problems even imagining a 68cm frame. Where the hell would you
    find a fork long enough to fit the headstem on a frame like that???

    Would look pretty weird with 700c tyres.....can you get 29" road tyres??

    Gags
     
  13. Random Data

    Random Data Guest

    On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:42:03 +1100, Gags wrote:

    > Would look pretty weird with 700c tyres.....can you get 29" road tyres??


    29" is MTB marketing speak for 2" ish tyres that fit 700c rims. So
    technically - yes.

    --
    Dave Hughes | [email protected]
    "The problem with people whose minds are in the gutter is that they keep
    blocking my periscope."
     
  14. Random Data

    Random Data Guest

    On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:42:03 +1100, Gags wrote:

    > Would look pretty weird with 700c tyres.....can you get 29" road tyres??


    29" is MTB marketing speak for 2" ish tyres that fit 700c rims. So
    technically - yes.

    --
    Dave Hughes | [email protected]
    "The problem with people whose minds are in the gutter is that they keep
    blocking my periscope."
     
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