J
[email protected] wrote:
> Ron Ruff wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > G.T. wrote:
> > > > Hot looking? When I was looking at it earlier I was thinking to myself how
> > > > ugly bikes have become.
> > >
> > > Same here. IMO, it's just plain bugly, even among "modern" frames. It
> > > kinda looks like some of the stuff that shows up on Chucksbikes.com for
> > > under $100.
> >
> > I like the Leader frame. Plus it is worth it to not have "Scattante"
> > all over the place...
>
>
> I find the Leader far ugler than the other frame. To each his own. At
> any rate, they are both commodity level, Asian made welded aluminum
> frames.They might even be made in the same factory. Is the "Leader"
> logo worth $130-175 more (the "Scattante" comes with fork and HS, the
> "Leader" does not)?
I go back and forth on my stance on the Darth Vader look of the Leader.
But as you point out, it is quite a bit more expensive. Too expensive
given the option. I think I'll go for the other one.
As for durability of the headset, I have a box of 10 I picked up for
cheap at a closeout. That supply ought to last at least as long as the
frame!
The only thing I may miss with a cheap frame (Taiwan produced or not)
is bottom bracket stiffness. Being large and heavy, all but the most
expensive frames are too soft for me. Does it really matter just how
much too soft? As it stands I'd rather have a cheap bike that doesn't
deliver 100% of what I need rather than a moderatly expensive bike that
doesn't deliver 100% of what I need. When I can justify the expense of
a really nice bike, I may do that, but until then I'll stick to cheap
bikes.
Joseph
> Ron Ruff wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > G.T. wrote:
> > > > Hot looking? When I was looking at it earlier I was thinking to myself how
> > > > ugly bikes have become.
> > >
> > > Same here. IMO, it's just plain bugly, even among "modern" frames. It
> > > kinda looks like some of the stuff that shows up on Chucksbikes.com for
> > > under $100.
> >
> > I like the Leader frame. Plus it is worth it to not have "Scattante"
> > all over the place...
>
>
> I find the Leader far ugler than the other frame. To each his own. At
> any rate, they are both commodity level, Asian made welded aluminum
> frames.They might even be made in the same factory. Is the "Leader"
> logo worth $130-175 more (the "Scattante" comes with fork and HS, the
> "Leader" does not)?
I go back and forth on my stance on the Darth Vader look of the Leader.
But as you point out, it is quite a bit more expensive. Too expensive
given the option. I think I'll go for the other one.
As for durability of the headset, I have a box of 10 I picked up for
cheap at a closeout. That supply ought to last at least as long as the
frame!
The only thing I may miss with a cheap frame (Taiwan produced or not)
is bottom bracket stiffness. Being large and heavy, all but the most
expensive frames are too soft for me. Does it really matter just how
much too soft? As it stands I'd rather have a cheap bike that doesn't
deliver 100% of what I need rather than a moderatly expensive bike that
doesn't deliver 100% of what I need. When I can justify the expense of
a really nice bike, I may do that, but until then I'll stick to cheap
bikes.
Joseph