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Fravia's tutorial on troll, flamer, kook, shill etc...

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  1. A short excerpt from the site:

    "A flamer is one who contributes nothing but uninformative
    "ad hominem" bickering. His inventivity in names-calling and
    "hurting tooth poking" fears no matches. Even a good troll
    will never win against a good flamer. Yet flaming is an art
    that many, many, try, few master, and nearly all think -wrongly-
    they are good at."

    Since this is *not* a commercial website, and...
    fravia+ is a master of excellence in what pre-
    commercial usenet once was,

    I fearlessly post the following link:
    www.searchlores.org/trolls.htm

    Caveat: Fravia is a most 'leet guru in the finest unix
    tradition. Prepare yourself for an unique educational
    experience.

    --

    W_B

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  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Fravia's tutorial on troll, flamer, kook, shill etc...
    From: W_B [email hidden]
    Date: 3/18/2004 5:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    A short excerpt from the site:

    A troll is basically one who posts messages intended to
    insult and provoke

    Suits you to a T.

    Jan

  3. (Jan) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Fravia's tutorial on troll, flamer, kook, shill
    etc... From: W_B [email hidden] Date: 3/18/2004 5:58
    PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    A short excerpt from the site:

    A troll is basically one who posts messages intended to
    insult and provoke

    Suits you to a T.

    Jan

    Make a note: it is *you* not me that fits the definition.

    If you were capable of reading further, with understanding,
    you would have included:

    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    <quote> per fas et nefas (see [Trolls and Schopenhauer]
    below). For each person who responds, the poster (the troll
    as a person) will consider that person "caught". The troll
    (the troll as an action) is considered to have been a
    complete success if it disrupts beyond repair the normal
    traffic on a newsgroup or on a messageboard. In extreme
    cases, trolls are posted by groups of trollers and
    crossposted to unrelated newsgroups in an attempt to
    destroy those groups by flooding them with flames and off-
    topic ranting.

    Variants:
    1.spamming troll, one who posts -or crossposts on many newsgroups-
    the same, exact post, multiple times (mostly one liners:
    "cascade"😉. Some of these 'listings' with all answers and
    counter-answers, can grow into huge files.
    2. kook: a regular poster who continually posts messages
    with no apparent grounding in reality. The kook trademark
    is paranoia and grandiosity. Kooks will often build up
    elaborate imaginary support structures, fake corporations
    and the like, and continue to act as if those things are
    real even after their falsity has been documented in
    public. While they may appear harmless, and are usually
    filtered out by the other regular participants in a
    newsgroup or mailing list, they can still cause problems
    because the necessity for these measures is not
    immediately apparent to newcomers; there are several
    instances, for example, of journalists writing stories
    with quotes from kooks who caught them unaware. </quote>

    --

    W_B

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