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Arthur Clune

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Verbatim. Don't blame me if it's not clear!

Start and finish Bluebird Cafe, Lake Road Coniston

Bluebird Cafe 0.0 miles B5285 to Hawkshead Left Ambleside @
3.3 Drunken Duck 5.5 Left Ambleside 6.3 Right Ambleside
A593 7.4 Right Windermere A591 8 Waterhead 8.7 Lt Troutbeck
(holbeck lane) 9.7 Troutbeck Village Left Kirkstone 13
Kirkstone Inn summit 16 Post office patterdale 21.4
Glenridding Village 22.3 LT A5091 Matterdale End 24.7
Matterdale Village 27 Troutbeck (North) A66 Left Keswick 30
Left AT roundabout Direction Keswick 38.5 Borrowdale B5289
39.5 Rosthwaite Village 45.5 Seatoller 47 Honister Summit
46.5 YHA Buttermere 53 (CONTROL) Right Keswick Newlands
Summit 54.5 Lt Braithwaite (royal oak) 60 Winlatter Summit
62.6 Lt Lorton to Lowswater 66 Lowswater 68.9 Left
Ennerdate 74 Lt ennerdate & croasdale 76 Right Ennerdale
Bridge 78.3 Left Whitehaven 79 Left Calder Bridge 80.8 Cold
Fell Summit 82.5 Left Gosforth 87.8 Left Gosforfh 89.8
<CONTROL IN GOSFORTH> RIght Santon Bridge 93.2 Irton Pike
Summit 94.5 Eskdale Green 95.3 Left King George IV 96.8
Boot 98.6 Hardknott Summit 102.3 Cockley Beck 103.5 Wrynose
Summit 105.5 Fell Foot 107 Little Langdale 108.5 Right
Coniston 109.5 Right Consiton 110.5 Finsh Lake Road
Bluebird Cafe 114 miles

Notes:

The route is not marshalled A lead car will take you the
first five miles. Then you're on you're own

Cut off time at buttermere 12.30 For the 8 o'clock starters
this is 11.77MPH For the 9 o'clock starters this is 15.14MPH

Certificates will be presented at the finish.

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Don't ask me how easy to follow this lot are - I make a
point of not looking at the route sheet on events like this.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
Arthur Clune <[email protected]> wrote:

: Start and finish Bluebird Cafe, Lake Road Coniston

[snip]

Well, people asked for it. I typed it in. But did anyone
actually read it?

--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
On 13 May 2004 09:22:52 GMT, Arthur Clune <[email protected]> wrote:

> Arthur Clune <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> : Start and finish Bluebird Cafe, Lake Road Coniston
>
> [snip]
>
> Well, people asked for it. I typed it in. But did anyone
> actually read it?

Yes. Read, saved, printed and put in as a route in Memory
Map. And, very much appreciated.

All I have to do now is consider riding it!

Thanks.

Colin
 
Colin Blackburn <[email protected]> wrote:
: Yes. Read, saved, printed and put in as a route in Memory
: Map. And, very much appreciated.

Excellent. It was worth my time then!

Allow plenty of time when you ride it - most people on the
event finished in 8 - 10 hours (fair few in 7 - 8 and some
up to 12. Few < 7 hours). And that's with not really having
to navigate at all.

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
Richard Goodman <[email protected]> wrote:

: Saved it for future reference. It just seems almost
: incomprehensible to me that anyone could fly around a
: course that hilly in 6 hours! I suppose you were the
: Arthur Clunb who did it in 7.07 - still seems
: seriously quick?

Yeah. My handwriting is appaling, hence the "b".

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
Richard Goodman <[email protected]> wrote:

: Saved it for future reference. It just seems almost
: incomprehensible to me that anyone could fly around a
: course that hilly in 6 hours! I suppose you were the
: Arthur Clunb who did it in 7.07 - still seems
: seriously quick?

Yeah. My handwriting is appaling, hence the "b".

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Allow plenty of time when you ride it - most people on the
> event finished in 8 - 10 hours (fair few in 7 - 8 and some
> up to 12. Few < 7 hours). And that's with not really
> having to navigate at all.
>
> Arthur

Thanks for the info Arthur. I would be interested in having
a go at this but was wondering what sort of bike most people
use ? I can just about cycle up the Hard Knott on my
mountain bike but that has a very low bottom gear (24 on the
front, 30+ on the back), so I imagine road bikes would need
something similar. Or can you get away with a higher gear if
you are reasonably fit (I'm not) ?

SW.
 
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Allow plenty of time when you ride it - most people on the
> event finished in 8 - 10 hours (fair few in 7 - 8 and some
> up to 12. Few < 7 hours). And that's with not really
> having to navigate at all.
>
> Arthur

Thanks for the info Arthur. I would be interested in having
a go at this but was wondering what sort of bike most people
use ? I can just about cycle up the Hard Knott on my
mountain bike but that has a very low bottom gear (24 on the
front, 30+ on the back), so I imagine road bikes would need
something similar. Or can you get away with a higher gear if
you are reasonably fit (I'm not) ?

SW.
 
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Allow plenty of time when you ride it - most people on the
> event finished in 8 - 10 hours (fair few in 7 - 8 and some
> up to 12. Few < 7 hours). And that's with not really
> having to navigate at all.
>
> Arthur

Thanks for the info Arthur. I would be interested in having
a go at this but was wondering what sort of bike most people
use ? I can just about cycle up the Hard Knott on my
mountain bike but that has a very low bottom gear (24 on the
front, 30+ on the back), so I imagine road bikes would need
something similar. Or can you get away with a higher gear if
you are reasonably fit (I'm not) ?

SW.
 
SW <[email protected]> wrote:

: Thanks for the info Arthur. I would be interested in
: having a go at this but was wondering what sort of bike
: most people use ? I can just about cycle up the Hard Knott
: on my mountain bike but that has a very low bottom gear
: (24 on the front, 30+ on the back), so I imagine road
: bikes would need something similar. Or can you get away
: with a higher gear if you are reasonably fit (I'm not) ?

Rob Jebb went passed me on hardnott on what looked like
39x25. He was moving though.

A few people road roadifed MTBs (with slick high
pressure tyres).

Lots of triples on road bikes. Of the people with doubles
most were running a dinner plate rear sprocket - so 39/29 on
Campag, 39/28 or 39/32 on Shimano with MTB cassetes and mech
(saw a lot of this).

I rode 34/48 13/26 which was fine for me. I had to walk to
very steep bit of hardknott though since (my excuse anyway)
I got blocked by a car. I rode everything else in reasonable
comfort (that of course being relative here)

On a road bike a 30x26 bottom gear should be fine for
most people.

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org "Technolibertarians make a
philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
 
SW wrote:
> "Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> Allow plenty of time when you ride it - most people on
>> the event finished in 8 - 10 hours (fair few in 7 - 8 and
>> some up to 12. Few < 7 hours). And that's with not really
>> having to navigate at all.
>>
>> Arthur
>
> Thanks for the info Arthur. I would be interested in
> having a go at this but was wondering what sort of bike
> most people use ? I can just about cycle up the Hard Knott
> on my mountain bike but that has a very low bottom gear
> (24 on the front, 30+ on the back), so I imagine road
> bikes would need something similar. Or can you get away
> with a higher gear if you are reasonably fit (I'm not) ?
>
> SW.

I read it Arthur, sure enough I did over half this route in
the opposite direction last week. As for gearing, I failed
to get up the East sides of Wrynose and Hardknott on 36x32
:-( This is about 29 "