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Grumble

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Cycling is all about freedom. If you want to wear a cycle helmet and go bald that's up to you but don,t impose your views on the rest of us. Next will come compulsory insurance.
Roads used to be much clearer than they are now . Why? People used to ride small low powered motorcycles for commuting, you can fit at least four motorcycles in the space taken up by a car. Then along came compulsory helmets and insurance - result people could not be bothered and switched to cars - apart from a few nut cases on !60+ machines.
 
I don't have to wear a helmet but I do. No laws for helmets here unless you are 12 or under. I haven't seen too many bald 12 year olds lately.
 
No I don't suppose you have seen many bald 12 year olds. Didn't daddy tell you, man to man, that the balding process doesn't start till your 30 ( 20 if you're unlucky. )
Look I don't tell you what to do with your life why impose your ill informed yuppy views on me. All you are doing is allowing some 'thug in blue' eager to get his arrest rate up, to stop me, handcuff me, throw me in the cage at the back of Copmobile, imprison me and get me up before a bunch of magistrates who will not listen to what I have to say.
Doesn't Happen? Then you live in the cycling world of yuppies not in the real world of REAL cyclists!
 
and masturbation doesn't cause blindness. That's my belief anyway.
 
Back in the day helmets were not necessary since all of the rides were uphill both ways and the roads were covered in snow.

Nobody is forcing you to wear a helmet.
 
Grumble said:
No I don't suppose you have seen many bald 12 year olds. Didn't daddy tell you, man to man, that the balding process doesn't start till your 30 ( 20 if you're unlucky. ) Look I don't tell you what to do with your life why impose your ill informed yuppy views on me. All you are doing is allowing some 'thug in blue' eager to get his arrest rate up, to stop me, handcuff me, throw me in the cage at the back of Copmobile, imprison me and  get me up before a bunch of magistrates who will not listen to what I have to say. Doesn't Happen? Then you live in the cycling world of yuppies not in the real world of REAL cyclists!
You said, "don't impose your views on us."; yet, here you are imposing your views on us. Your rant was ejected from the credibility pool when you whined about helmets causing baldness and said ......"something......something....something.....REAL cyclists!" Only two posts into this forum, and you've got all the makings of a troll.
 
Originally Posted by maydog .

Back in the day helmets were not necessary since all of the rides were uphill both ways and the roads were covered in snow.

Nobody is forcing you to wear a helmet.
I think it's too late. Dane bramage from hard impact! :)
 
My wife requires me to wear a helmet.... and since I don't want to be forced into any activities that might cause me to go blind... I wear the helmet.

It doesn't bother me if other cyclists choose not to wear a helmet. You know your brain better than anyone else... and if you don't think your brain deserves the protection of a helmet.... you're likely right.
 
Since what I say is beyond cedibility, then I'll give you more incredible concepts. You're flying through the air after a collision with a car/truck ( actually in 99% of such events you're lying under the wheels with a mangled body ) now what's the physics involved? Well your Kinetic Energy is concentrated at your CG ( roughly your abdomen ) and this needs to be dissipated. If there is a leg(s) or arm(s) in the way - great they can be brocken to absorb enegy, but if its your head ( as far as the body is concerned another limb ) problem! If the helmet breaks to absorb energy the body still continues its path pushing the helmet bits into your skull and it breaks anyway, and of course unless you have >3cm of copliant padding then the de-acceleration of your brain will cause internal contusion - you're a goner. But overiding all is that your CG wil not be in line with the point of contact, there will be a torque acting and your neck will be broken. Which is invariably the case in motor cycle accidents ( where because of your excessive velocity yourally do fly through the air. ) This fact is suppressed by the Medical Profesion rather than admit they were wrong to call for the universal wearing of helmets.
What cycle helmets do are:
(1) Limit your vital peripheral vision.
(2) If they have flanges, be sure they will catch and again twist your neck.
(3)Give you a false sense of security - the helmeted Lycra lout, going hell for leather what ever the road (or cycle path ) conditions.
(4) Make you go bald!
 
Grumble said:
Since what I say is beyond cedibility, then I'll give you more incredible concepts. You're flying through the air after a collision with a car/truck ( actually in 99% of such events you're lying under the wheels with a mangled body ) now what's the physics involved? Well your Kinetic Energy is concentrated at your CG ( roughly your abdomen ) and this needs to be dissipated. If there is a leg(s) or arm(s) in the way - great they can be brocken to absorb enegy, but if its your head ( as far as the body is concerned another limb ) problem! If the helmet breaks to absorb energy the body still continues its path pushing the helmet bits into your skull and it breaks anyway, and of course unless you have >3cm of copliant padding then the de-acceleration of your brain will cause internal contusion - you're a goner. But overiding all is that your CG wil not be in line with the point of contact, there will be a torque acting and your neck will be broken. Which is invariably the case in motor cycle accidents ( where because of your excessive velocity yourally do fly through the air. ) This fact is suppressed by the Medical Profesion  rather than admit they were wrong to call for the universal wearing of helmets. What cycle helmets do are: (1) Limit your vital peripheral vision. (2) If they have flanges, be sure they will catch and again twist your neck. (3)Give you a false sense of security - the helmeted Lycra lout, going hell for leather what ever the road (or cycle path ) conditions. (4) Make you go bald! 
Your physics is wrong.
 
Yeah.... but the helmet just rounds out the whole look of my cycling kit. And... that one time I did smash the helmet against the pavement... all worked out pretty well. If I knew I was going to crash today.... I'd choose to be wearing a helmet.

Where I live we don't even require motorcyclist to wear helmets... only children are required to (and that isn't really enforced). If you don't think you need a helmet... just don't wear one (unless... of course you are under age)!
 
A helmet breaking is an outlet for the kinetic energy of your head impacting a hard object. That increases the impact impulse width (time) and lessens the magnitude (shorter spike), which translates to a lower overall deceleration g-force acting on your brain at the time of impact, which means less chance of severe brain injury as your brain sloshes around in your head. Not to mention, helmets are slick on pavement, whereas the pores in pavement can grab hair--perhaps causing a broken neck when your head doesn't slide while your body still has momentum.

It's about the averages, not the specific scenarios. On average, a helmet worn in an accident reduces the chance and severity of brain injury.
 
Genetics makes you go bald, that and radiation. I have anything but a false sense of security on a bike. I expect drivers to live down to the lowest form of behavior.

Oh yeah, almost forgot that the helmet makes me look cool.
 
April 5, 2012.

After 40 years of cycling in no helmets, worthless racing hairnets and various styles of helmets and falling countless times without even putting a scuff mark on a helmet...this:






Personally, IMO helmet laws suck. Your head...your choice.
 
We only have laws for children 12 and under here. As far as need, I never needed homeowners insurance until last month although I have paid it for years. As I have stated before I don't have and spare brain material to waste.
 
As I have stated before I don't have and spare brain material to waste.

A waste is a terrible thing to mind.
 
Originally Posted by jhuskey .

and masturbation doesn't cause blindness. That's my belief anyway.
Someone told me masturbation helps grow hair, except I find out the hard way it's on yer palms... go figure.
 
Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB .


Personally, IMO helmet laws suck. Your head...your choice.
As our new Socialist culture progresses... [if that is the correct word]... more rules, laws, licenses, restrictions, permits, and so-forth will rule our lives in general. I don't expect cycling to be an exception to tighter individual control. How can you consider it your OWN head... after all it takes a village to raise a child.... and the village needs YOUR head to help out.

Certainly... it would be silly in any self-respecting socialist regime to issue a bicycling license to anyone who hasn't passed the proper cycling test to show they have the required knowledge to cycle safely.

Proof of bicycling insurance would seem like a reasonable requirement as well as proof of government approved health insurance. It would NOT be prudent to allow cyclist to ride *****-nilly on any street they choose. Bicycle path's and lanes should be considered separate and apart from regular traffic lanes.... with separate permits, licenses, and fees for each type of riding.

Public safety can't be left in the hands of capitalist sales people (in any proper socialist government). Some regulatory body will be required to approve which type of bicycle each individual should be allowed to own. I am sure more creative people than myself will be able to list thousands of new rules and regulations.... it is only a matter of time.
 
Public safety can't be left in the hands of capitalist sales people...

Comrade Cutter, if you are ever in N.E. Ohio. I.M. me and we will meet at the closest proletariat establishment that will allow me to use my Kopeks to buy you a beerski!

To each, according to his thirst!