Alex Beascoechea <
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> "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Montesquiou wrote:
> >
> >> "Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> [email protected]...
> >> > in message <[email protected]>, <Montesquiou>
> >> > ('')
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" <[email protected]> a crit dans le message
> >> >> de news: [email protected]...
> >> >>> RonSonic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Could someone explain to me exactly what this was about, please?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I guess I'm neither French nor much of a protestor. What exactly
> >> >>>> were
> >> >>>> they upset
> >> >>>> about and in what way was this action going to affect that
> >> >>>> condition?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Same old story. The french teams where protesting against racing at
> >> >>> two speeds. Incidently one of the protesting riders testet positive
> >> >>> the Landis way.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you telling he was a French protesting rider ?
> >> >
> >> > No, no. French riders are clean. It was an Italian rider on a French
> >> > team.
> >> >
> >> > The obvious solution to cleaning up the Tour is simply to ban all
> >> > non-French riders.
> >> >
> >
> >> I don't agree with you, the problem is not non-French ( or non-German)
> >> but
> >> to ban those from a no-clean federation.
> >> This pro-doped federations are some years late,
> >> US, Kazak, DK are large enough for to have their own tour, it is not ?
> >
> > Spain? Appart from Operation Puerto, spainish riders and athletes in
> > genreal a very rare to test positive. Secondly doping seems to be a
> > non issue in the spanish press.
> >
> I am sure they talk much more in DK about doping, and with good
> reason, as it seems that all danish cyclist of any note (3 or 4?) have been
> big time dopers.
> - Bo Hamburger, first to be detected by an EPO test.
> - Mr 64. now selfadmited after a decade of hypocrisy.
> - Toasted chicken.
You can add the belove mentioned names to the list - They have all
either admited, been exposed or convicted for doping. Arround 3/4 of
every dansih pro cyclist up until ca 2001.
Knud Enemark (Died prior to Simpson in 100km TTT at the Olympics)
Mogens Frey
Ole Ritter
Rolf Sørensen
Jesper Skibye
Brian Holm
Kim Andersen
Jesper Worre
Per Pedersen
Jøren V Pedersen
Nicholaj Bo Larsen
Lars Michaelsen
Jørgen Markussen
Thomas Bay
Jacob Piil
Nicky Sørensen
Peter Meinert
Hans Henrik Ørsted
Allan Johansen
Lennie Kristensen
Michael Blautzun
Johnny Weltz
add a large amount of amatour racers, track racers and other pro's
whos names i can't rember or don't know.
The only ones i can reasonably say didn't dope are:
Kim Eriksen
Leif Mortensen
Søren Lilholt
Alex Petersen
Kim Markusen
Jens Veggerby
Frank Høj
Kenneth Weltz
Christian Andersen
> As for the spanish guys. Yes, of course some have doped too. Some may have
> even stopped recently. I personally feel quite reasured about their
> performance this year. Yes, maybe even Contador has dopend in the
> past. But if we put his performance relative to what was going on
> in Disco in Lance's years, I think you can be quite confident that
> the kid has some class too. Remeber when the whole Disco could hang
> with Lance and the others till the first part of the last climb? Those
> were the good times!!
> You know, doping is illegal in Spain (and Italy and France) now , unlike
> DK, DE, and other nordic
True, in a nordic courtroom inflicting damage to yourself isn't a
crime. You can dope, do drugs, prostitute yourself and even kill
yourself without beeing prosecuted.
However it's illigal to inflict damage to other people, thereas it's
illigal to distribute or sell drugs, aid other people in doping or
doing drugs and it has been for the majority of a century.
Secondly its imposible to buy a drug or doping product without a
pescription. I'd bet comming from just about any other country in
europe you would find any danish, norwegian or swedish farmecist to be
painfully rigid.
> Hubris zealots. Concentrate on cleaning your own kicken, you need it more
> than anybody.
Wanna bet that it's waaaayy easier to obtain EPO, kortizone,
growthhormone or testesterone in Spain than obtaining either of those
drugs in Denmark, Norway or Sweeden?
We can even include drugs like penecilin, antibiotica, subatmol or
even codein.
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
<http://blog.reippuert.dk>
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.
