Nick Burns <
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> "Clovis Lark" <
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>> Ed-D <
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>> > "Keith" <
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>> >> >> He proved today that he is a true sportsman... actually you have to
> say
>> > that
>> >> >> both he and Lance have shown other sportsmen and women the way they
>> > should
>> >> >> conduct themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >The same of which cannot be said for Mayo and that other classless
> Euskatel
>> >> >rider (was it Zebeldia?). What a bunch of punks.
>> >>
>> >> I think they couldn't do any better today, but outsprinting Ullrich for 4".
>>
>> > Please. Ulrich was seriously hurting for parts of that climb. The least
> they
>> > could have done is pick up the lead for a few kilometers. But they
> didn't.
>> > They just hung on his wheel until the finish and then outsprinted him.
> Well I
>> > hope the Basques are proud of them. I sure as hell wouldn't be.
>>
>> I think, and perhaps you might rewatch this, that Ullrich responded with the idea that Armstrong
>> was setting the pace. The Basque riders probably could do no more than hang on his wheel for the
>> 6 or so kms. That they were able to spring says more about their short term flexibility than
>> their ability to set pace over the long haul. Furthermore, they were probably quite motivated by
>> the home fans at the end.
> Whether that is true or not, it is (or was?) customary (for most of the cycling world) to only
> sprint if you helped with the pace. This seems to be one of those customs that is going away these
> last few years. These two are fairly young and I am sure they have seen plenty of pros doing the
> same thing they did today. It is probably considered "smart racing" to the 20 somehting guys. A
> lot of the older guys in the pro ranks have been complaining about the changing ethics since about
> 10 years ago or so.
Could you find me a quote where Ullrich feels robbed? And, yes there are new ethics.
>>
>> > Also, is it just me or did Mayo look like he wanted to take advantage of Lance's crash before
>> > being called back by Hamilton and Ulrich?
>>
>> Mayo take advantage? Armstrong crashed him once, nearly crashed him again. Mayo paid a dear price
>> for riding on Armstrong's wheel the first time. The second time he was unlucky to have Armstrong
>> just pass him when the pedal problem occurred. My hunch is that he was as out of sorts and
>> panicked as Armstrong and dug into his reserves. They were good for little until the end.
>>
>> >> If he loses the tour by that margin, Mayo will probably live to regret it all his career.
>>
>> > It's more than four seconds because there is a time bonus involved too
> (I
>> > forget how much).
>>
>> 4 secs between 2nd and 3rd?
>>
>> > Anyway, Ulrich earned my respect today. He's a worthy champion. I hope
> he wins
>> > the Tour de France again (just not this year...or next year if Lance
> decides
>> > to race
)
>>
>> Apparently Hamilton called for them to slow. Give him some credit as well.