Gaggioli Suspended For A Year

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by armstrong, May 31, 2004.

  1. armstrong

    armstrong Guest

    Why???


    "Time Cop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    >
    > Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    > UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    > includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    > spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    > license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    >
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  2. Time Cop

    Time Cop Guest

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM

    Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.



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  3. In article <[email protected]>, Time Cop
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    >
    > Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    > UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    > includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    > spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    > license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    >

    Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit.
     
  4. Alex Rodriguez wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >>
    >>
    >> Why???

    >
    > Google.


    What? Can you really get suspended for Googling!!!

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
     
  5. http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/6123.0.html

    armstrong wrote:

    > Why???
    >
    >
    > "Time Cop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    >>Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    >>
    >>Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    >>UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    >>includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    >>spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    >>license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    >>
     
  6. For trying to beat the crap out of Jonny Sundt with a 2x4.




    On 05/31/2004 05:19 AM, in article [email protected],
    "armstrong" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Why???
    >
    >
    > "Time Cop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    >>
    >> Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    >> UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    >> includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    >> spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    >> license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >>

    >
    >


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  7. TritonRider

    TritonRider Guest

    >From: Casey Kerrigan [email protected]

    > -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    >>
    >> Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    >> UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    >> includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    >> spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    >> license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    >>


    Kinda off the topic but as an official who occasionaly has questions about
    things that can't be answered locally, Shawn has been incredible at responding
    and providing clear friendly useful information in an incredibly timely manner.
    It'd be great if we could clone him.
    Bill C
     
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  10. Mark Fennell

    Mark Fennell Guest

    "Casey Kerrigan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:310520041143003758%[email protected]
    > Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    > suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit.


    tsk, tsk, tsk... Casey, it's surprising that you would write something like
    that, given your somewhat official capacity in the uscf. Maybe I'm reading
    more into your comment than you meant, but Roberto and Keith share some
    history. Besides, it sounded like the McGuire rider that Keith pummeled was
    equally guilty.

    Mark

    p.s. Is it just coincidence that a McGuire rider was also in a scuffle the
    next day at the Ojai crit? Does that happen a lot to them?
     
  11. Erik Mills

    Erik Mills Guest

    Odd that These two would come up in the same thread as they have both
    been romantically linked to Lynn Brotzman/Gaggioli. Perhaps she has
    this effect on men.

    -Erik

    Casey Kerrigan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<310520041143003758%[email protected]>...
    > In article <[email protected]>, Time Cop
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    > >
    > > Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    > > UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    > > includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    > > spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    > > license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    > >

    > Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    > suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit.
     
  12. In article <[email protected]>, Mark Fennell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Casey Kerrigan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:310520041143003758%[email protected]
    > > Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    > > suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit.

    >
    > tsk, tsk, tsk... Casey, it's surprising that you would write something like
    > that, given your somewhat official capacity in the uscf. Maybe I'm reading
    > more into your comment than you meant, but Roberto and Keith share some
    > history. Besides, it sounded like the McGuire rider that Keith pummeled was
    > equally guilty.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > p.s. Is it just coincidence that a McGuire rider was also in a scuffle the
    > next day at the Ojai crit? Does that happen a lot to them?


    WEll I don't know about any shared history between Roberto and Keith
    and when I posted the only connection I knew about was being suspended
    for what sounds like simular type actions ( although reading the
    release on the USAC web site Keith got a full year suspension while
    Reoberto only got suspended till the end of this year).

    The only time I know of that McGuire have been involved in any kinds of
    trouble at races are the ones you refer to above. As noted in the
    release on the USAC web site there are two other riders also suspended
    for what sounds like fighting and there is a note in the release that
    cases like this have seen a big increase this year.
     
  13. [email protected] (TritonRider) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > >From: Casey Kerrigan [email protected]

    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    > >> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    > >>
    > >> Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    > >> UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    > >> includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    > >> spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    > >> license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    > >>

    >
    > Kinda off the topic but as an official who occasionaly has questions about
    > things that can't be answered locally, Shawn has been incredible at responding
    > and providing clear friendly useful information in an incredibly timely manner.
    > It'd be great if we could clone him.
    > Bill C


    I did get to see Erik Saunders chasing Johnny Sundt around with a
    large piece of timber post race on Saturday in Baltimore in a comic
    re-enactment of the "incident" in question. Now that was funny my
    friends.

    Tom
     
  14. Casey Kerrigan wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, Mark Fennell
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>"Casey Kerrigan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:310520041143003758%[email protected]
    >>
    >>>Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    >>>suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit.

    >>
    >>tsk, tsk, tsk... Casey, it's surprising that you would write something like
    >>that, given your somewhat official capacity in the uscf. Maybe I'm reading
    >>more into your comment than you meant, but Roberto and Keith share some
    >>history. Besides, it sounded like the McGuire rider that Keith pummeled was
    >>equally guilty.
    >>
    >>Mark
    >>
    >>p.s. Is it just coincidence that a McGuire rider was also in a scuffle the
    >>next day at the Ojai crit? Does that happen a lot to them?

    >
    >
    > WEll I don't know about any shared history between Roberto and Keith
    > and when I posted the only connection I knew about was being suspended
    > for what sounds like simular type actions ( although reading the
    > release on the USAC web site Keith got a full year suspension while
    > Reoberto only got suspended till the end of this year).
    >
    > The only time I know of that McGuire have been involved in any kinds of
    > trouble at races are the ones you refer to above. As noted in the
    > release on the USAC web site there are two other riders also suspended
    > for what sounds like fighting and there is a note in the release that
    > cases like this have seen a big increase this year.


    Its been a while since I've been reading/posted, so if someone already
    pointed this out....

    http://groups.google.com/groups?q=j...&[email protected]&rnum=2

    This points out Gaggioli has some history obviously, but Scott's posting
    begs the question: Do most sprinters have a tendency to be "Hot heads?"

    I would say Yes, and I am a "Sprinter."

    I'm sure almost everyone who races knows of an example -- A former
    teammate of mine was punched by yet another "Sprinter" at SuperWeek
    after a finish, breaking his prescription glasses. The promoters made
    the "Sprinter" pay for my teammates glasses with his prize money from
    the next 3 or 4 stages...

    I really think that the USCF taking a stand here is very good and that
    promoters/officials should do so at local races from the grassroots
    level upwards. I think the riders need to be reminded of this because we
    have a tendancy to think its just the way it is. It gets very heated out
    there, for good reason, as any rider who has broken his or her clavicle
    will knows all to well. Yet, it reflects so badly on our sport.

    My 2 cents...

    -Paul A. Sumner
     
  15. TritonRider

    TritonRider Guest

    >From: [email protected] (Tom Arsenault)

    >I did get to see Erik Saunders chasing Johnny Sundt around with a
    >large piece of timber post race on Saturday in Baltimore in a comic
    >re-enactment of the "incident" in question. Now that was funny my
    >friends.
    >
    >Tom
    >
    >


    Now why does it figure that E-ROK would be involved in that.
    Bill C
     
  16. Mark Fennell

    Mark Fennell Guest

    "Casey Kerrigan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:010620041207264722%[email protected]
    > WEll I don't know about any shared history between Roberto and Keith
    > and when I posted the only connection I knew about was being suspended
    > for what sounds like simular type actions


    OK, sorry to (incorrectly) imply that you meant more than that...

    > The only time I know of that McGuire have been involved in any kinds of
    > trouble at races are the ones you refer to above. As noted in the
    > release on the USAC web site there are two other riders also suspended
    > for what sounds like fighting and there is a note in the release that
    > cases like this have seen a big increase this year.


    I'm wondering if it has become common for guys to push people out of the way
    with a hand off the bars. There have always been riders that used their head
    (literally) or a shoulder to move someone off a wheel or whatever, but it
    sounds like more direct and forceful pushes are happening regularly now.

    That's what happened at Solvang. The McGuire guy had Keith pinched against
    the barriers a few corners from the end when someone jumped hard on the
    other side. The McGuire guy didn't or couldn't go with the acceleration so
    Keith gave him a little push out of the way to get some space to go through.
    After the race, the guy confronted Keith and wanted to fight and he got his
    wish.

    There aren't many rbr posters that are near the front at the end of big US
    crits but there are a few (Erik, Jason, Smack?). If any of you read this,
    will you comment please?

    Mark
     
  17. Casey Kerrigan <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<310520041143003758%[email protected]>...
    > In article <[email protected]>, Time Cop
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Farrell, Shawn, USA Cycling
    > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:03 AM
    > >
    > > Roberto Gaggioli has been suspended from participating in USA Cycling or
    > > UCI events until next year and effective May 31st, tomorrow. This
    > > includes participating as a rider or a manager. If he shows up as a
    > > spectator, there is nothing we can do about it, but he has no valid
    > > license, so he is not eligible to do anything that would require one.
    > >

    > Maybe Roberto can get together with Keith Horowitz who was also
    > suspended for a year relating to an incident at the Solvang Crit


    In Jan lukes update to Socal, she stated a zero tolerance policy for
    stupid behavior. Then listed the first race she was planning on
    attending as Solvang. Stupid is as stupid does. The only question for
    me is why was the Mcquire rider not also suspended? And what the hell
    happened that weekend.

    RVD
     
  18. Tom Kunich

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  19. warren

    warren Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Tom
    Kunich <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Per Elmsäter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Alex Rodriguez wrote:
    > > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > > [email protected] says...
    > > >>
    > > >> Why???
    > > >
    > > > Google.

    > >
    > > What? Can you really get suspended for Googling!!!

    >
    > If your name is Gaggioli and you're Googling you can be suspended for too
    > many syllables.


    When he wanted to learn about groups of geese Gaggioli googled gaggles.
     
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