Geelong Tri

On 2006-02-17, DaveB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Stuart Lamble said:

What's a cyclist doing in rec.sport.triathlon, Dave? Hm? You have a good
excuse for knowing this?

Hah I'm definitely not a cyclist as anyone who rides with me on Sundays
will testify. The beauty of triathlons is that you have an excuse for
not being any good in three different sports. 🙂

And Stuart would know this if he came out to ride with us 🙂

--
TimC
Bus error -- driver executed.

quote='DaveB'Stuart Lamble said:

What's a cyclist doing in rec.sport.triathlon, Dave? Hm? You have a good
excuse for knowing this?

Hah I'm definitely not a cyclist as anyone who rides with me on Sundays
will testify. The beauty of triathlons is that you have an excuse for
not being any good in three different sports. 🙂

DaveB[/QUOTE]

Bravo DaveB, well said! The other thing I love about triathlons is the fluffy warm glow of "it's all about participation" so when I finish last everyone still claps. 😄

Andres wrote:
<snip>

Quoted message said:

BTW, LT is a singular HR, not a HR zone : so I think there is no real
"LT zone", just below LT and above LT.

Anyone else care to throw their 2c into the pot?

Why not?

Given that your resting and max HR can vary on different days in
response to your physiological condition and you can also be affected by
environmental conditions, it actually makes more sense to give someone a
HR range for LT training. Also, it's virtually impossible to maintain a
particular HR anyway, as it'll vary between even inhaling and exhaling.

"For training outdoors, we would advise the cyclist to use a 10-beat
range... For training on the rollers or cycle ergometer (where weather
and terrain do not change), a 5-beat range would be given."

From Whyte, G., 2006. "Physiological assessment in cycling." Peak
Performance, Special Issue: Cycling, No 224, London.

Tam

SuzieB said:

DaveB said:

Stuart Lamble said:

What's a cyclist doing in rec.sport.triathlon, Dave? Hm? You have a

good

Quoted message said:

excuse for knowing this?

Hah I'm definitely not a cyclist as anyone who rides with me on Sundays
will testify. The beauty of triathlons is that you have an excuse for
not being any good in three different sports. 🙂

DaveB

Bravo DaveB, well said! The other thing I love about triathlons is the
fluffy warm glow of "it's all about participation" so when I finish
last everyone still claps. 😄

--
SuzieB

Fun runs are like that too, although I finished third last, not last.
But the race organisers had started to pack up. (Guess who?)

Tam

SuzieB said:

Bravo DaveB, well said! The other thing I love about triathlons is the
fluffy warm glow of "it's all about participation" so when I finish
last everyone still claps. 😄

The Duathlon series in Melbourne (start thinking ahead for winter Suzie)
is even more friendly. I was close to last in one the year before last
and was amazed at how many people were lined up to applaud the last
person through.

DaveB

Andres said:

I don't know how successful you've been with this TT training Mikey,
but apart from a simplistic way of defining your LT, this method will
probably, IMO, only train you to race intervals at LT. ie. you will be
very good at building upto LT (remember it takes a while for your HR to
get upto LT) staying there for maybe 5 minutes, then resting at a low
HR (and power) before going again.

I think a better way to train for this TT would be to build upto doing
around 40min-1hr @ LT HR.
So you start off with maybe 2 intervals of 15min on @ LT one week, then
the next week 2 x 20min, or just 1 x 30 min. Anyway the idea is to
train for what you will experience in the race.
This is a simple summary of the method found at cyclingnews.com/fitness
(do a search on 'TT"😉.

BTW, LT is a singular HR, not a HR zone : so I think there is no real
"LT zone", just below LT and above LT.

Anyone else care to throw their 2c into the pot?

-Andres.

Andres,

I gave him some advice based on the fact he said, he was not feeling all that fit at the moment and also that he does not time trial much. Or else I would have said ahhh geeesh just get out there an knacker yourself for an hour at a time, so maybe he wants to build up to it. But from what you are saying is that Interval training is only good for training at intervals is that right ???

I must remember that next time I am training for an interval race.

From past experience, if I was just getting into the time trialing, I know how much it would hurt to just go straight to LT and stay with it for 15 minutes, the very first time.

MikeyOz said:

I gave him some advice based on the fact he said, he was not feeling
all that fit at the moment

Pah! Ess is not fit? http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sandbagger

DaveB

quote='DaveB'MikeyOz said:

I gave him some advice based on the fact he said, he was not feeling
all that fit at the moment

Pah! Ess is not fit? http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sandbagger

DaveB[/QUOTE]
hehehe... I expected to see a picture of him on that page..! 🙂 well I did wonder about him saying he wasn't fit.... but I dont know maybe... he has been training at lying around eating donuts for the last couple of months 🙂 hmmmm donuts.

MikeyOz said:

DaveB said:

MikeyOz said:

I gave him some advice based on the fact he said, he was not feeling
all that fit at the moment

Pah! Ess is not fit?
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sandbagger

DaveB

hehehe... I expected to see a picture of him on that page..! 🙂 well
I did wonder about him saying he wasn't fit.... but I dont know
maybe... he has been training at lying around eating donuts for the
last couple of months 🙂 hmmmm donuts.

Sounds like he's training to be an ultra runner. If he's drinking beer
as well, make that definite ;-)

Tam

TimC said:

And Stuart would know this if he came out to ride with us 🙂

No chance this week. I'm going to be several metres below the surface
this Sunday. Looking forward to it, actually.

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DaveB said:

The Duathlon series in Melbourne (start thinking ahead for winter Suzie)
is even more friendly. I was close to last in one the year before last
and was amazed at how many people were lined up to applaud the last
person through.

DaveB

Great Dave, an extra opportunity to do my worst leg! But, it would improve my running. hmmmm more running or more cycling?!?! 🙄

On 2006-02-17, Stuart Lamble (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

TimC said:

And Stuart would know this if he came out to ride with us 🙂

No chance this week. I'm going to be several metres below the surface
this Sunday. Looking forward to it, actually.

Won't the bike rust?

--
TimC
Theoretically one might have been wearing pants at work.
-- Anthony de Boer in Scary Devil Monastry

In article
<[email hidden]>,

TimC said:

Quoted message said:

No chance this week. I'm going to be several metres below the surface
this Sunday. Looking forward to it, actually.

Won't the bike rust?

Carbon fibre doesn't rust.

--
Shane Stanley

TimC said:

On 2006-02-17, Stuart Lamble (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

TimC said:

And Stuart would know this if he came out to ride with us 🙂

No chance this week. I'm going to be several metres below the surface
this Sunday. Looking forward to it, actually.

Won't the bike rust?

Mm. Possibly. Does carbon fibre rust when exposed to salt water?

I smell a research paper in the offing ...

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Stuart Lamble said:

TimC said:

On 2006-02-17, Stuart Lamble (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

On 2006-02-17, TimC <[email hidden]> wrote:
> And Stuart would know this if he came out to ride with us 🙂

No chance this week. I'm going to be several metres below the surface
this Sunday. Looking forward to it, actually.

Won't the bike rust?

Mm. Possibly. Does carbon fibre rust when exposed to salt water?

I smell a research paper in the offing ...

Do you need a biomechanist/physicist/science writer/cyclist for that
project?

Tam *winning smile*

On 2006-02-17, Tamyka Bell (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Stuart Lamble said:

TimC said:

Won't the bike rust?

Mm. Possibly. Does carbon fibre rust when exposed to salt water?

I smell a research paper in the offing ...

Do you need a biomechanist/physicist/science writer/cyclist for that
project?

Tam *winning smile*

In particular, is your winning smile a grant winning smile?

--
TimC
If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out. --unknown

TimC said:

On 2006-02-17, Tamyka Bell (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Stuart Lamble said:

On 2006-02-17, TimC <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Won't the bike rust?

Mm. Possibly. Does carbon fibre rust when exposed to salt water?

I smell a research paper in the offing ...

Do you need a biomechanist/physicist/science writer/cyclist for that
project?

Tam *winning smile*

In particular, is your winning smile a grant winning smile?

It won me a fellowship this year :-)

Tam

TimC said:

On 2006-02-17, Tamyka Bell (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Stuart Lamble said:

Does carbon fibre rust when exposed to salt water?

I smell a research paper in the offing ...

Do you need a biomechanist/physicist/science writer/cyclist for that
project?

Tam *winning smile*

In particular, is your winning smile a grant winning smile?

And will the grant that it wins be sufficient to (a) purchase several
carbon fibre bikes (remember, we need repeatability, and also control
bikes), and (b) pay our expenses over the following years whilst we
conduct the research? I reckon it's a pretty complicated subject; could
take five, six, maybe even seven years to do a thorough study.

No, it's not an excuse to buy super-expensive bikes and spend several
years doing nothing but ride them. Honest.

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SuzieB said:

Tamyka Bell said:

Tam (who used to love finding she had the fastest female run time...
but
then decided it didn't really count)

I was really annoyed when I discovered that the timings for my last
triathlon didn't show the first transistion time so I ended up with a
really long bike time. I've been working a lot on the cycling so I was
really keen to find out how I did and compare my time to the other
females as I know very few passed me. I didn't have my bike computer at
the time so I couldn't even guesstimate. I'm looking forward to seeing
how I go on Sunday. Don't anyone get exctied, it's just a baby
triathlon, I only have to swim 300m, ride 10km and run 3km. 🙂

--
SuzieB

Was going to ask if you were racing on sun? St Kilda aint it? And
if we should come and cheer.

And if u r training tomorrow

Dave

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Quoted message said:

MikeyOz said:

I gave him some advice based on the fact he said, he was not feeling
all that fit at the moment

Pah! Ess is not fit? http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=sandbagger

DaveB

I particularly like the way the link itself makes following it utterly
redundant.