George W. Bush

Discussion in 'rec.bicycles.soc' started by Mike Vandeman, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding treaties,
    (3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and our
    environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war required
    by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent people
    as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is almost
    universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
    American? Not at the moment.

    Michael J. Vandeman

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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  2. bri719

    bri719 Guest

    Mike Vandeman wrote:

    >The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    >"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
    >

    this time:
    a) 31 states to 19 + DC
    b) majority of electoral vote
    c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
    d) _majority_ of the popular vote!

    just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
    problem...but now you have no debate.

    bri
    --

    * enjoying the karma *
    remove LKJSDFJSD from address to email
     
  3. Ian St. John

    Ian St. John Guest

    bri719 wrote:
    > Mike Vandeman wrote:
    >
    >> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
    >> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
    >>

    > this time:
    > a) 31 states to 19 + DC
    > b) majority of electoral vote
    > c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
    > d) _majority_ of the popular vote!
    >
    > just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
    > problem...but now you have no debate.


    Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey, so
    was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ), and
    the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to the
    almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
    against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
    evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
    health, the environment, the economy, international security, public access,
    human rights, and social stability.

    Enjoy.
     
  4. In article <[email protected]>,
    Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    > "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding
    > treaties,
    > (3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and
    > our
    > environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war
    > required
    > by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent
    > people
    > as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is
    > almost
    > universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
    > American? Not at the moment.
    >
    > Michael J. Vandeman


    I enthusiastically cast my vote for Bush-Cheney yesterday, and am
    delighted at the prospect of not having John Kerry as president. After
    eight dark years of Clinton administration, Bush has been a welcome
    change. I'm especially thankful today to the Swift Boat Vets and POWs
    for countering Kerry's artful portrayal of Vietnam years, and to the
    good folks of South Dakota for defeating one of those responsible for
    stonewalling in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.

    Sorry that you're so glum, though. Hope you get better!

    Very truly,

    Steve Schulin
    http://www.nuclear.com/environment/climate_policy/default.html
     
  5. Rufio

    Rufio Guest

    "Ian St. John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:eek:[email protected]
    > bri719 wrote:
    > > Mike Vandeman wrote:
    > >
    > >> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
    > >> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
    > >>

    > > this time:
    > > a) 31 states to 19 + DC
    > > b) majority of electoral vote
    > > c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
    > > d) _majority_ of the popular vote!
    > >
    > > just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
    > > problem...but now you have no debate.

    >
    > Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey, so
    > was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ), and
    > the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

    the
    > almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
    > against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
    > evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
    > health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

    access,
    > human rights, and social stability.
    >
    > Enjoy.
    >


    Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the vote)
    ! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes (or
    fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies such
    as China & Pakistan.
     
  6. "Steve Schulin" wrote
    >
    > I enthusiastically cast my vote for Bush-Cheney yesterday, and am
    > delighted at the prospect of not having John Kerry as president. After
    > eight dark years of Clinton administration, Bush has been a welcome
    > change. I'm especially thankful today to the Swift Boat Vets and POWs
    > for countering Kerry's artful portrayal of Vietnam years, and to the
    > good folks of South Dakota for defeating one of those responsible for
    > stonewalling in Bill Clinton's Senate trial.
    >
    > Sorry that you're so glum, though. Hope you get better!
    >
    > Very truly,
    >
    > Steve Schulin
    > http://www.nuclear.com/environment/climate_policy/default.html

    I humbly disagree. Now, let's talk about mountain bikes and mountain
    biking.

    CG
     
  7. "Rufio" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Ian St. John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:eek:[email protected]
    > > bri719 wrote:
    > > > Mike Vandeman wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
    > > >> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
    > > >>
    > > > this time:
    > > > a) 31 states to 19 + DC
    > > > b) majority of electoral vote
    > > > c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
    > > > d) _majority_ of the popular vote!
    > > >
    > > > just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
    > > > problem...but now you have no debate.

    > >
    > > Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey,

    so
    > > was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ),

    and
    > > the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

    > the
    > > almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
    > > against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
    > > evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
    > > health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

    > access,
    > > human rights, and social stability.
    > >
    > > Enjoy.
    > >

    >
    > Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the

    vote)
    > ! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes

    (or
    > fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies

    such
    > as China & Pakistan.
    >


    I don't know how the Republicans can loose the Presidency if these morons
    are the measure of the opposition.
     
  8. WaterWorker

    WaterWorker Guest

    "the Moderator" <[email protected]_spam_engineer.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    ....
    >> > Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey,

    ....
    > I don't know how the Republicans can loose the Presidency if these morons
    > are the measure of the opposition.

    Itz cuz there's so many of 'em...


    Dusty
    --
    RemoveNUTCASEto reply
    >
     
  9. James

    James Guest

    "Rufio" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Ian St. John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:eek:[email protected]
    > > bri719 wrote:
    > > > Mike Vandeman wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans
    > > >> support a "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected,
    > > >>
    > > > this time:
    > > > a) 31 states to 19 + DC
    > > > b) majority of electoral vote
    > > > c) no popular vote disagreement with the electoral college
    > > > d) _majority_ of the popular vote!
    > > >
    > > > just because you didn't recognize it the last time isn't our
    > > > problem...but now you have no debate.

    > >
    > > Yes. Kerry has conceded so now Bush is an *elected* dictator. But hey,

    so
    > > was Saddam.. Mostly provided by the wealthy ( over $200,000 income ),

    and
    > > the 'born again' christians that think that he has a direct pipeline to

    > the
    > > almighty and who are feeling 'righteous' in starting another 'Crusade'
    > > against the infidels. Worse, the Senate and House of Reps is no longer
    > > evenly divided and can be counted on to rubberstamp his policies against
    > > health, the environment, the economy, international security, public

    > access,
    > > human rights, and social stability.
    > >
    > > Enjoy.
    > >

    >
    > Don't forget the MacDaddy of elected leaders - Arafat (got 87% of the

    vote)
    > ! Bush claims to bring democracy to the rest of the world & yet opposes

    (or
    > fails to support) democratically elected leaders & sides with tyrannies

    such
    > as China & Pakistan.
    >
    >

    It's over. You people can stop campaigning now. Get over it and 'moveon'.
    :)
     
  10. Coyoteboy

    Coyoteboy Guest

    Is nowhere safe from the political discussion? Even here in our forum of
    leisure we must discuss who said what and who does what in politics? Give it
    a rest guys - if you want to discuss it go to the bar or your local
    political debate club, leave this area bike related.

    J
     
  11. On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 19:36:55 +0000, Chris Phillipo wrote:

    >
    > Oh crap now I have to support bush, thanks a lot mikey.


    LOL! The best comment on this entire political crap.

    :))

    --Kamus
     
  12. Shawn

    Shawn Guest

    Chris Phillipo wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >
    >>Subject: George W. Bush
    >>From: Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
    >>Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.backcountry, sci.environment, ca.environment
    >>
    >>The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    >>"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding treaties,
    >>(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and our
    >>environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war required
    >>by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent people
    >>as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is almost
    >>universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
    >>American? Not at the moment.
    >>
    >>Michael J. Vandeman
    >>
    >>===
    >>I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >>humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >>years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >>
    >>http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Oh crap now I have to support bush, thanks a lot mikey.


    Nah you don't Chris. He *really* supported Nader...I thought you were
    in Canada anyway?

    Shawn
     
  13. "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    > "president" who


    (1) was not legitimately elected,

    Jesus fucking Christ! Get over it already. Gore lost fair and square.


    (2) violates binding treaties,

    Big deal, other countries that pollute even more are not even covered. And
    the treaties drive jobs away.





    > Michael J. Vandeman
    >
    >

    You're an idiot.

    Stand up and be proud to be an American, or shut up and let people think you
    are proud. When you sit here and denegrate your President in a worldwide
    forum, all you do is give aid and comfort to the enemy. The enemy is brutal
    and ruthless, and they would just as soon chop your head off as listen to
    your bleeding heart liberalism that gives them comfort. Tell them they are
    brutal, ruthless fanatics that has done nothing worth mentioning, or shut
    the fuck up and let somebody else tell them without you contradicting them.

    I am proud to be an American, but you are a shameful crybaby. Shut up, you
    make the rest of us look bad.
     
  14. Shawn

    Shawn Guest

    Jeff Strickland wrote:

    > (2) violates binding treaties,
    >
    > Big deal, other countries that pollute even more are not even covered. And
    > the treaties drive jobs away.


    What does pollution have to do with the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty?
    Jobs and ABM?

    Shawn
     
  15. >Psychotic Ramblings Snipped



    Look at the positive side. I read somewhere that George W. is a mountain
    biker...
     
  16. Pih Stof

    Pih Stof Guest

    Well, I must admit that the thought of having Mrs. Ketchup as the First Lady
    scared the hell out'a me. I woke up this morning, waited about four hours,
    and was finally relieved to learn that it wasn't meant to be.


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    > "president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding

    treaties,
    > (3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health

    and our
    > environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war

    required
    > by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent

    people
    > as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is

    almost
    > universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be

    an
    > American? Not at the moment.
    >
    > Michael J. Vandeman
    >
    > ===
    > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    > humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >
    > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
     
  17. Andy Chequer

    Andy Chequer Guest

    >(7) is almost universally hated around the world.

    We don't like the monkey man over here. Particularly vexing is his
    abreviation of "terrorism" to "turr".

    Andy Chequer
     
  18. "Pih Stof" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Well, I must admit that the thought of having Mrs. Ketchup as the First

    Lady
    > scared the hell out'a me. I woke up this morning, waited about four

    hours,
    > and was finally relieved to learn that it wasn't meant to be.
    >


    I had more respect for Ms Kerry than her husband. Teresa will tell it like
    she sees it. No one speaks for her.
     
  19. "Andy Chequer" <[email protected](youdon'twantthisbitinit)thisisasparagus.com> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]
    > >(7) is almost universally hated around the world.

    >
    > We don't like the monkey man over here. Particularly vexing is his
    > abreviation of "terrorism" to "turr".
    >
    > Andy Chequer
    >


    The President may mispronounce a word, but he does not mispronounce his
    intent.
     
  20. must be you are confused about the way you want things, and the way
    they really are. i see you also suffer from selective hearing.

    Nantahala Jake


    On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:17:09 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >The saddest thing about this election is that so many Americans support a
    >"president" who (1) was not legitimately elected, (2) violates binding treaties,
    >(3) puts the profits of corporations above the protection of our health and our
    >environment, (4) waged war without the Congressional declaration of war required
    >by our Constitution, (5) killed approximately 40 times as many innocent people
    >as Osama Bin Laden, (6) has no respect for the United Nations, and (7) is almost
    >universally hated around the world. And we are expected to be PROUD to be an
    >American? Not at the moment.
    >
    >Michael J. Vandeman
    >
    >===
    >I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >
    >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
     
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