No, but I stand more of a chance with a gun than being unarmed. As long as I'm still alive I have a chance to get the gun and stop any further assault. There are an infinite number of mugging situations so nobody can say that a gun will or won't save them.
But the odds are heavily stacked against you to be able to do anything.
Sorry, but I very much doubt what you say. You would have to know my ability with gun to make such a statement. I guarantee that you'd be shot if you tried it. It's a moot point, anyway, because you and I are highly unlikely to be in such a situation. [/QUOTE]
It's all about reaction time, and in fact there something called the 21 foot rule; see:
https://www.usacarry.com/safe-distance-engage-threat-21-foot-rule/ And being trained the way I was trained I was able to rush a person from 7 feet away and get the gun at angle that by the time the guy was able to fire it it would have completely missed me, the same is true with a guy shoving a gun in my back I can spin and knock the gun away before he can even fire it.
Have you ever read any of the website statistics where assaults have been stopped or prevented just by the mere sight of the gun? And for me it has nothing to do with feeling "safe and warm." It gives me a chance of protecting myself, not that it
will protect me, but that it gives me a chance. I guess you don't know Florida. [/QUOTE]
Mere sight? are you forgetting the context of the original discussion? Remember you're on your bike, you're not going to be able to get your gun out in time to allow them to have a visual of it!
I go to the firing range. It's enjoyable and keeps me tuned up. [/QUOTE]
Right, shooting paper targets, ok sure.
All conjecture! [/QUOTE]
Not conjecture at all, it's happened many times to a would be defender getting shot by their own gun.
Again, all conjecture. Anything can happen, and as I already pointed out, there are unlimited situations. The mugger doesn't win every time. In Florida, because so many people are armed, potential muggers know this and most won't take a chance on attacking someone who might be armed. Now if they attack from behind, that's a different matter. They'll shoot you in the back, and whether I'm armed on not won't make any difference. Gun crime, here, is mostly carried out in the early morning hours, often outside a bar, and when a drug deal goes bad.
You are being overly dramatic. I'd guess that the majority of concealed carriers have no experience in high stress combat situations. That is more in line with police and military. The most likely situation one could find themselves in, is a mugging. So what are you suggesting, that I should pay thousands of dollars for training in high stress situations? [/QUOTE]
Even a police officer or a highly trained Ranger riding his bike with a gun in a ***** pack won't have the time to deploy the weapon since most if not all attacks on cyclists come without any warning.
Spray bullets everywhere??? Kill an innocent kid a 1/2 block away??? What kind of guy do you think I am? What kind of guys do you think most legal gun owners are? Anyone who "sprays" bullets everywhere, deserves to be locked up. The few cases I've heard like that involve criminals with illegal guns, and they do it to someone that wronged them, usually in a drug deal. [/QUOTE]
HAHAHA, lot's of innocent people have been killed by stray bullets due to panic firing over the years, of course it's a chance shot either directly or indirectly but it can happen, kind of like what you said: Anything can happen! In fact 77% of shots fired miss their target, so where do those bullets go? into buildings and dirt mostly, but occasionally they find another person that wasn't being asked to be shot:
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-U...d-gun-users-prove-ineffective-at-self-defense
Incidentally, most semi-automatic pistols use magazines, not clips. [/QUOTE]
Your right, I just used in for brevity but it was incorrect. Read this:
http://www.handgunsmag.com/reviews/magazine-or-clip/
I'm not a novice with guns. I've had many and I know how to handle and use them. The way you think seems to be that I should not even have a gun. [/QUOTE]
Didn't say you shouldn't own one in fact I said just the opposite, what I said was to carry a gun while riding a bike isn't going to be much help to you, but like I said if doing so serves as you're security blanket then go on and carry it.
And urge you to stop judging every gun owner. Nobody is going to take your advice, least of all me![/QUOTE]
Never judged every gun owner, but the truth is most are untrained, and that's the facts, in fact 4 out of 10 have received NO training whatsoever! see:
https://www.thetrace.org/2017/07/handgun-owners-self-defense-no-formal-training/