Getting colder...

HughMann said:

Commiserations to the Canberra crew. Stood around on Duntroon Parade ground in minus whatever degrees for too many years. You know its too cold when you see that the side drummer with a runny nose is drumming away, nose running, and the dribbles are freezing on the drum skin and then, you see that the little snot icicles are being "pinged" off the drum skin all over the band and parade ground.

Thanks for sharing that lovely visual with us Hugh. :p

flyingdutch said:

I can only guess water had run down my (bare) legs and thru socks into
shoes.
Is there anyway to avoid this

I've had some success with BBB Waterflex overboots, with Netti overpants on,
overpants over top of the booties so water runs down the legs and off. Not
sure how long this would work, but I'd guess for a 1 hr commute it'd be OK.
Nettis do tend to sog out after 2-3 hours of rain on a longer ride.

We'll see how tomorrow pans out.

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Cheers
Peter

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HughMann said:

Sick of wet feet and wet green
shoes.
Any recomendations for Dry booties?

Shimano sandals (if you're running SPD). Great for warm conditions!

Quoted message said:

Commiserations to the Canberra crew. Stood around on Duntroon Parade
ground in minus whatever degrees for too many years. You know its too
cold when you see that the side drummer with a runny nose is drumming
away, nose running, and the dribbles are freezing on the drum skin and
then, you see that the little snot icicles are being "pinged" off the
drum skin all over the band and parade ground.

Eeoooo! Not a good thought.

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Cheers
Peter

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HughMann said:

Yes it is getting colder. Down to 20 overnight, no ceiling fan needed and snuggle into a sheet.

Everyone has sort of touched on the wet feet problem I need to solve.
Dont need to keep my feet warm but need to keep them dry. The rain here is warm and it comes down in bucket fulls. Stuff paper in wet shoes but still wet a day later and then they go mouldy. Not a fashion colour for the peleton.
All the adds I see on the net are for "warm as toast" booties but not much mention or water proof. Some say water resistant but! Have even thought of using thin dive booties and cutting holes for cleats. Perhaps freezer bags and lackie bands? Sick of wet feet and wet green shoes.
Any recomendations for Dry booties?

Commiserations to the Canberra crew. Stood around on Duntroon Parade ground in minus whatever degrees for too many years. You know its too cold when you see that the side drummer with a runny nose is drumming away, nose running, and the dribbles are freezing on the drum skin and then, you see that the little snot icicles are being "pinged" off the drum skin all over the band and parade ground.

Cheers
Hugh

I have a pair of BBB shoe covers - the exterior is some kind of plastic/rubber stuff and the inside is lined with a felty kind of material. They are spray proof, but not tropical downpour-proof. However, plastic shopping bags over your shoes and _under_ the boot covers seems to be quite effective in repelling heavy rain for a lot longer than without.

Lovely image of the cold...

Ritch

In aus.bicycle on Tue, 9 May 2006 22:31:16 +1000

HughMann said:

Any recomendations for Dry booties?

Maybe someone has GOretex ones? I'd tend to go for sandals
myself, if warm rain was a problem.

After all, socks dry more easily....

I suppose you could go into a motorcycle shop, get a set of "foot
frangers" and cut holes for the cleats. Sandals would look better
though!

Zebee

Gags said:

pfffttt......wait till it gets down to minus nine or so and then add a
40km/h wind chill factor when you go downhill!!!! I commuted in Canberra
for a year (about 18km each way) and never wore more than athletic socks and
normal bike shoes on my feet. The only exception to this was on a couple of
cold mornings when I was riding to work with a cast on my leg when I put a
cut-off old army socks over my toes to stop them from getting too cold.

Oh, believe me... I've done that here in CBR before. We had a minus
nine the year before last. Ouchie on any exposed bits. This is my
first year in road shoes though and my poor little tootsies are feeling
the cold. I bumped into another commuter on the way home last night and
we had a quick discussion about the impending onset of freezie mornings.
He had the same problem as me that morning so went straight to the LBS
and got some shoe covers. He bought his for $48 but said they had small
slip-ons for $28. I'll have to head off and get some.

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Bean

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Bean Long said:

Peter McCallum said:

Bean Long said:

Ouch! Got off the bike this morning with what feels like frost-bite in
the toes. 1 degree at CBR airport by the time I'd showered and got the
computer booted up. Must have been well below zero when I left home.
Cripes that hurts! It can only get cooler from here on in. Can anyone
recommend any uber-booties to keep my tootsies warm on the way to work??

Now here's a tip from an expert ... in tropical Qld ... I've been
working at the local milk depot in the evenings for about a year. It's
around 2-3 degrees consistently and I'm in the cold room for 6 to 8
hours at a time. I wear two pairs of thick woollen socks and a beanie.
Seems to do the job well.

P

Hmmm... somehow I think that two pairs of woollen socks might make my
shoes a tight fit! Nice thought though.

So put one over the outside of your shoes.

Tam

Aeek said:

Bean Long said:

Hmmm... somehow I think that two pairs of woollen socks might make my
shoes a tight fit! Nice thought though.

I'm wearing MTB? socks, they are a bit denser than roadie socks.

<snip>

There are MTB socks and roadie socks? Gee, where do you get them? I'm
guessing not at Kmart...

Tam

Tamyka Bell said:

There are MTB socks and roadie socks? Gee, where do you get them? I'm
guessing not at Kmart...

It's easy to tell the difference; roadie socks are white, whilst mtb
socks are any other colour, preferably clashing with everything else you
are wearing.

Parbs

Parbs said:

Tamyka Bell said:

There are MTB socks and roadie socks? Gee, where do you get them? I'm
guessing not at Kmart...

It's easy to tell the difference; roadie socks are white, whilst mtb
socks are any other colour, preferably clashing with everything else you
are wearing.

Parbs

I think almost all my socks are white. Or they were. Then I went MTBing
and trail running in them. So now all my socks are brown. By the time
you've been MTBing in dust for 10 hours, everything is brown - all
exposed fabric and flesh.

Tam

Bean Long said:

Ouch! Got off the bike this morning with what feels like frost-bite in
the toes. 1 degree at CBR airport by the time I'd showered and got the
computer booted up. Must have been well below zero when I left home.
Cripes that hurts! It can only get cooler from here on in. Can anyone
recommend any uber-booties to keep my tootsies warm on the way to work??

I suggest you try sealskins goretex booties used a lot by us AJs in the
tropics to keep our socks dry yet still letting the feet breath. I used
them trekking across the Kokoda Track and my feet remained dry except
when I submerged them. I have never tried them while cycling but
shouldnt be a problem with them fitting inside your shoes. Available
from all good camping stores or Army disposals stores. See link below.

http://www.kitbag.com.au/category267_1

Parbs said:

Tamyka Bell said:

There are MTB socks and roadie socks? Gee, where do you get them? I'm
guessing not at Kmart...

It's easy to tell the difference; roadie socks are white, whilst mtb
socks are any other colour, preferably clashing with everything else you
are wearing.

There's also recumbent socks and commuter socks. Very similar, but the
'bent socks are longer and have more stripes.

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Parbs

flyingdutch said:

Using Neoprenes but...

last friday got caught in an absolute downpour.
Feet nice and warm/dry.
but after 30mins (I'm guessing) my feet/shoes were saturated.
I can only guess water had run down my (bare) legs and thru socks into
shoes.
Is there anyway to avoid this

Yup, move to Brisbane! Still wet sometimes, but when it's warm (yeah
yeah, shut-up he says). You Melbournites ought to see our riding
weather at the moment!!!

Donga

quote='Donga'flyingdutch said:

Using Neoprenes but...

last friday got caught in an absolute downpour.
Feet nice and warm/dry.
but after 30mins (I'm guessing) my feet/shoes were saturated.
I can only guess water had run down my (bare) legs and thru socks into
shoes.
Is there anyway to avoid this

Yup, move to Brisbane! Still wet sometimes, but when it's warm (yeah
yeah, shut-up he says). You Melbournites ought to see our riding
weather at the moment!!!

Donga[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's shocking at the moment. I went up Mt Nebo yesterday at 5am and I even thought about putting on arm warmers!!!

Adam

Bleve said:

Parbs said:

Tamyka Bell said:

There are MTB socks and roadie socks? Gee, where do you get them? I'm
guessing not at Kmart...

It's easy to tell the difference; roadie socks are white, whilst mtb
socks are any other colour, preferably clashing with everything else you
are wearing.

There's also recumbent socks and commuter socks. Very similar, but the
'bent socks are longer and have more stripes.

Quoted message said:

Parbs

All my road socks are grey. They were white when I bought them though.
I assume MTB socks go brown!

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Bean

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Aeek said:

Bean Long said:

Hmmm... somehow I think that two pairs of woollen socks might make my
shoes a tight fit! Nice thought though.

I'm wearing MTB? socks, they are a bit denser than roadie socks.

Yeah, the cold arrived last night, not quite bite the base of my nails
cold but definitely time for more than fingerless gloves.

After trying lots of gloves through canberra winters I've finally
settled on wearing cheap knit gloves over the fingerless gloves.
Everything else has been too hot, too cold or too restrictive.

The most comfortable gloves that I have found when it gets too cool for
fingerless are made from a material called Gore NTS (next to skin).
It absolutely keeps the breeze out, like Windstopper, but is very thin.
It is not cheap, but is the only thin glove that is even slightly warm.
In fact I have two pairs, as I "lost" one pair in a jacket pocket last
winter and then of course had to buy a new pair and only found the old
ones a couple of weeks back.

Paddy Pallin has a good supply last time I checked.

By the time midwinter rolls around here in Canberra I will have resorted
to Polartec gloves, but of course they are thick and somewhat restrictive.

For MTBing in the snow (yes, I am mad, thanks for asking) I have a pair
of neoprene gloves which are too hot for other conditions.

On 2006-05-09, Tamyka Bell (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

I think almost all my socks are white. Or they were. Then I went MTBing
and trail running in them. So now all my socks are brown. By the time
you've been MTBing in dust for 10 hours, everything is brown - all
exposed fabric and flesh.

Even the grazed red bits?

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TimC
And for the important things in life:
"If you teach a child to read, he or her can pass a literacy test"
-- George "Dubya" Boosh - president of the Yoonited States.

On 2006-05-10, Patrick Keogh (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

In fact I have two pairs, as I "lost" one pair in a jacket pocket last
winter and then of course had to buy a new pair and only found the old
ones a couple of weeks back.

Yay! There are other people in the world who do this.

-- Ti "the guy who loses gloves when they velcro themselves to some
odd part of the jacket" mC

TimC said:

Yay! There are other people in the world who do this.

I spent ages looking for my wallet the other day. I thought it was in a
pack, but couldn't see it. I turned the pack upside down and shook it. No
wallet [1]. I got really [censored]. 10 minutes later I shook the pack out
again and the wallet fell out. I don't think I want to know where it was.
If I find stuff on my next credit card being shipped to Black Mesa, I'm
gonna kill Barney.

[1] It has a top pocket with a bunch of stuff in it. I'd already checked
and it wasn't there, but there was enough weight to make it non-obvious
that there was something in the main part.

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Dave Hughes | [email hidden]
Remember Jeebus loves you. Or maybe he's just sucking up to get your old
bike bits. - Phil Las Gourgues

TimC said:

Even the grazed red bits?

Depends how much red is in it. On a normal graze they tend to end up black
or brown as you keep riding. I had a great one on my elbow where I didn't
notice the charred stick blocking an overtaking line on the weekend.

If it's staying red you should probably put something on it, if only to
stop blood getting on your bike and causing corrosion.

Does anyone else tend to use dressings to protect the outside world from
bloodstains as much as to protect the wound? I've had a few pairs of light
coloured pants with odd stains on the knee by the end of their life.

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Dave Hughes | [email hidden]
"Sanity is like money; you should just have enough to get by. Any more
and you turn into a freak" - rone, ASR