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> > > > > "Alan McClure" <
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> > > > > > So, when most of you come across a log on the trail--let's say
it
> is
> > > > 8-12
> > > > > > inches tall.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do You:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) get off and carry your bike over
> > > > > > 2) hop over it
> > > > > > 3)bunny hop over it
> > > > > > 4)Other
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You see, out of all the obstacles I come across, this is the
only
> > one
> > > > that
> > > > > > consistently stumps me. I can get over them most of the
> > > time(especially
> > > > > > when they are smaller--heheheh), but it never feels smooth(rear
> > wheel
> > > > > > bumps), sometimes I hit my chainring, and 1/3 of the time I fall
> or
> > > get
> > > > > > stuck. I am so frustrated because I can't seem to figure out
how
> to
> > > get
> > > > > > over them easily after many, many times trying. Soooo, what do
> you
> > > all
> > > > do
> > > > > > when you see a log up ahead? And, what do you recommend me
> trying.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > practice anything if it'll help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan McClure
> > > > >
> > > > > Hop it. If its under 6", and i've got speed, I'll just jump the
> > sucker.
> > > > I
> > > > > don't have a great bunny hop, its more of a lift both wheels at
once
> > > > > clipless cheating thing, so anything bigger than that and I do my
> > second
> > > > > technique, which is basically a slow motion bunnyhop (I've done it
> on
> > > logs
> > > > > up to approx 26"/wheelsize) -
> > > > >
> > > > > Approach log fairly slowly, but not superslow. Figure middle
front,
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > the three largest rear. Rock backwards on the bike, pulling the
bar
> > > with
> > > > > you, and get the front wheel on the very top of the log. Try to
> stay
> > > > > forward on the bike, over the bars, when you get to the log - if
> > you're
> > > > too
> > > > > far back, then you'll simply run right into the log with the rear
> > wheel
> > > > and
> > > > > fall. Ok, here's the important step - and its pretty hard to do
> > without
> > > > > clipless. What you want to do is pull up the rear wheel and put
it
> on
> > > top
> > > > > of the log. At the same time, you want to throw the front of the
> bike
> > > > > forwards and down. This is a VERY explosive move, you actually
get
> > both
> > > > > tires off the ground for a bit. If you really do it well, and
have
> > > enough
> > > > > speed, you can actually clear the whole log this way. Usually,
> > > especially
> > > > > on bigger logs, you'll simply end up with the front wheel down on
> the
> > > > > ground, and the rear wheel on top. If you had the speed perfect,
> and
> > do
> > > > it
> > > > > right, then the wheel will come right off, and not even hit the
top
> > > hard.
> > > > > If not, you can give a very small pedal stroke and just watch your
> > > > balance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's pretty much what I'm talking about, although Charlie
doesn't
> > > quite
> > > > > get the rear wheel all the way on top. Give 'im some slack tho,
he
> is
> > > in
> > > > > his mid 60s (and can still outpace me anyday, the guy's an
animal!)
> > > > >
http://pages.prodigy.com/CharlieB/log.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon Bond
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay, between photos 3 and 4, is he surging forward using a pedal
> stroke
> > > > that just hasn't been photographed, or is he just shifting his
weight
> > > > forward (like in a bunny hop) explosively and letting the momentum
> carry
> > > him
> > > > up and over. I must say, that he makes it look super easy, and yet,
I
> > > can't
> > > > imagine doing it myself. That is incredible.
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > >
> > > Its mostly just pulling up with the feet and pushing forwards and down
> > with
> > > the bars. I can't bunny hop for shite, like I said, but I have no
> > problems
> > > getting over logs, and have taught 3 of my friends to do it (2 with clipless, one with toe
> > > clips). Its easier if you see it done, so bug
> your
> > > experienced mountain biking friends!
> > >
> > > Jon Bond
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I think my problem with this stunt is I cant get my **** over my seat!
I
> > dunno if its my seat (Specialized BG Milano) or my post it too high, or
my
> > short legs, probably the combination of all three. If I could get my
butt
> > back there I would probably try this. Looks like fun!
>
> Try starting with your seat all the way down. If your seat is too wide
for
> you to get behind, period, then a narrower saddle would really help - not only in log jumping, but
> also steeps (I know I get behind my saddle on a
lot
> of trail stuff).
>
> Oh yeah, and for everybody - watch the boyz, the seat can get kinda close
if
> you screw up
>
> Jon Bond
>
>
OOF I hear ya there. I think I need to cut my post down maybe two inches. At its LOWEST (I have an
FSR so it does have a lowest point) my knee only bends very slightly while the pedal is extended. I
find on the road, raising the seat helps, but off road, lowering it helps as well. I have plenty of
post in the tube so I can stand to lose 2 inches, and I think that even 1 inch *might* let me get my
butt back. Still, I got this seat when I was still acclimating to riding and wanted to cushion my
butt. Its more of a touring seat, I am considering asking for a Sella Italia Flite Ti Gel (one with
the taint hole) for my birthday in a few months. Any other seat recommendations?