getting sick all the time and training

[greggery peccary]

"Raptor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> greggery peccary wrote:
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> Since I've been having training religiously (2 years) I started having
> >> these colds that take forever to resolve. By "religiously" I just mean
> >> riding hard 200 miles a week, which is not a big deal after all, pros
> >> ride much more than that. When I am not sick I feel greatand not
> >> overtrained, but I get infections from every sneeze around me. What
> >> supplements should I take to stop this? Any comments?
> >>
> >
> > are you training indoors with a bunch of other people around? that's a
sure
> > fire way to catch something. as soon as i stopped going to the gym, my
virus
> > rate went way down! also-consult your physician.
>
> Germophobia is pretty effective in this case. Wipe down your equipment
> with disinfecting wipes before using it and keep your hands clean and
> away from the slimy/wet parts of your body.
>

i get sick on planes too!

 

[yeahyeah]

[email protected] wrote:
> > Pick up a book on nutrition. 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
> > consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>
> I've heard (again, unverified) that taking multivitamins makes you
> dependent on them. Not in the addiction sence, but in the sence that
> your body stops producing/uptaking them as efficiently.

Please reply.

 

[Steven Bornfeld]

yeahyeah wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Pick up a book on nutrition. 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>>
>>I've heard (again, unverified) that taking multivitamins makes you
>>dependent on them. Not in the addiction sence, but in the sence that
>>your body stops producing/uptaking them as efficiently.
>
>
> Please reply.
>


Well, it's true for steroids anyhow ;-)

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Steve

 

[Steven Bornfeld]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>
>
> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
> to have zero fat?
>


How about fiber? My hemorrhoids want to know.

Steve

 

[Dogfighting]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>
>
> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
> to have zero fat?
>
Protein comes in lean Chicken and lean Beef along with the necessary fats.

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[Dogfighting]

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>
>
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and consider taking a high quality
>>> multi-vitamin.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
>> to have zero fat?
>>
>
>
> How about fiber? My hemorrhoids want to know.

Lots of carbohydrates have fibre, ever here of whole wheat bread or ALL
BRAN ?

>
> Steve
>

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[Dogfighting]

[email protected] wrote:
>>Pick up a book on nutrition. 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>
>
> I've heard (again, unverified) that taking multivitamins makes you
> dependent on them. Not in the addiction sence, but in the sence that
> your body stops producing/uptaking them as efficiently.
>

That is non-sence... or is that non-sense -

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[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:12:35 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>>
>>
>> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
>> to have zero fat?
>>
>Protein comes in lean Chicken and lean Beef along with the necessary fats.

So with a little fat in the stuff you mention the guy is getting what,
110%? That's great -- we should give 110% effort in races and eat 110%
too!

JT

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[[email protected]]

> That is non-sence... or is that non-sense -
>

Sorry for this. I am sure there are other things up there that give
me out as a non-native speaker/speller.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
John Forrest Tomlinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:12:35 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> >> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
> >>>consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
> >> to have zero fat?
> >>
> >Protein comes in lean Chicken and lean Beef along with the necessary fats.
>
> So with a little fat in the stuff you mention the guy is getting what,
> 110%? That's great -- we should give 110% effort in races and eat 110%
> too!

Many people eat far more than 110% - that's why they're fatties.

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remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman]

Bill Baka wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Bill Baka wrote:
> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> >>> Bill Baka wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>> Who I am, as most people know is a soon to be 58 cubicle burnout. I
> >>>> think the job with the high stress and weekends is the problem. Salaried
> >>>> jobs sound good at first until that near 6 figure income starts
> >>>> requiring 10 hour days, overnighters (been there, done that, new job
> >>>> time), and weekends, all with no overtime pay. Some times your health
> >>>> and sanity outweigh the money.
> >>> Near 6 figure income? A lot of people work salary jobs like this for
> >>> less than $50,000 (USD) per year in major urban areas.
> >>>
> >> ...
> >> $50,000 to live in a major urban area? I wouldn't get out of bed for
> >> that much. I have had proposals for $115,000-$135,000 but they all would
> >> require me to stay in the Bay area all week and maybe some weekends too.
> >> I could buy a mini Winnebago and not have to pay motel bills but it just
> >> isn't worth it to me at this point in my life.
> >
> > I know of salaried professionals who with unpaid overtime make actual
> > hourly wages in the $15-20/hour range. If they are lucky they might be
> > able to find a single bedroom condominium they can afford.
> >
> > The growing trend is to outsource professional work to SE Asia, with
> > one person in the US doing final review, which greatly reduces labor
> > costs.
> >
> It also has the side benefit of discouraging kids to take engineering
> courses in college because they see there is no future in it. Once we
> have decimated our own abilities and are dependent on all the countries
> we helped we will become the poor country. There is a backlash effect
> but nobody is paying attention. When most of our products come from a
> communist country to the point that we are dependent on them, then what?
> New American jobs created by Bush..."Do you want fries with that?"!!!!

It is called FREE MARKET CAPITALISM, where the bottom line rules.
Capital will go to where it can be used to make the most profit, and if
that is China or India, who are we to argue with the FREE MARKET?

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain

 

[William R. Mattil]

Bill Baka wrote:


> New American jobs created by Bush..."Do you want fries with that?"!!!!
> Bill Baka

Yawn....

Why don't you have a nice tall glass of Kool Aid.

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[Bill Sornson]

William R. Mattil wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>
>> New American jobs created by Bush..."Do you want fries with
>> that?"!!!! Bill Baka
>
> Yawn....
>
> Why don't you have a nice tall glass of Kool Aid.

Or rather, "Blog Aid".

 

[Bill Baka]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:46:54 -0400, Dogfighting <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>> consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>
> Can you live on zero fat? And what kind of food would one have to eat
> to have zero fat?
>
Lots of fruits and veggies is obvious, but steamed white fish I get at a
Chinese buffet is great, and I buy chicken breast and steam it so any
residual fat just falls into the water. Canned Tuna is good too. Stay
away from any restaurant of any kind and don't buy red meat. The only
place I ever go out to eat is the Chinese buffet where it is an all you
can eat and I load up on fish and Broccoli culled from the Broccoli-Beef
section. Then I can wait an hour and ride most of it off. One meal a day
plan, weird but healthy. Your body can make any fat it needs.
Bill Baka

 

[Bill Baka]

Chris BeHanna wrote:
> Followups trimmed to r.b.m.
>
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> Pick up a book on nutrition. 60% carbohydrates and 40% protein and
>>> consider taking a high quality multi-vitamin.
>> I've heard (again, unverified) that taking multivitamins makes you
>> dependent on them. Not in the addiction sence, but in the sence that
>> your body stops producing/uptaking them as efficiently.
>
> Your body does not produce vitamins in the first place (with the
> exception, perhaps of vitamin D).

Yeah,
But,
Your body produces vitamin D in response to sunshine, which you don't
get if you use sun block. The one thing you need to take supplements on
is Calcium, which I do by taking Tums, something a friend got me hooked
on. You can get Calcium by eating Sardines with the bones in, but that
would get old in a hurry.
Bill Baka
>
> I'm not sure you heard what you heard, but it sounds pretty
> preposterous to me.
>

 

[Bill Baka]

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Who I am, as most people know is a soon to be 58 cubicle burnout. I
>>>>>> think the job with the high stress and weekends is the problem. Salaried
>>>>>> jobs sound good at first until that near 6 figure income starts
>>>>>> requiring 10 hour days, overnighters (been there, done that, new job
>>>>>> time), and weekends, all with no overtime pay. Some times your health
>>>>>> and sanity outweigh the money.
>>>>> Near 6 figure income? A lot of people work salary jobs like this for
>>>>> less than $50,000 (USD) per year in major urban areas.
>>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> $50,000 to live in a major urban area? I wouldn't get out of bed for
>>>> that much. I have had proposals for $115,000-$135,000 but they all would
>>>> require me to stay in the Bay area all week and maybe some weekends too.
>>>> I could buy a mini Winnebago and not have to pay motel bills but it just
>>>> isn't worth it to me at this point in my life.
>>> I know of salaried professionals who with unpaid overtime make actual
>>> hourly wages in the $15-20/hour range. If they are lucky they might be
>>> able to find a single bedroom condominium they can afford.
>>>
>>> The growing trend is to outsource professional work to SE Asia, with
>>> one person in the US doing final review, which greatly reduces labor
>>> costs.
>>>
>> It also has the side benefit of discouraging kids to take engineering
>> courses in college because they see there is no future in it. Once we
>> have decimated our own abilities and are dependent on all the countries
>> we helped we will become the poor country. There is a backlash effect
>> but nobody is paying attention. When most of our products come from a
>> communist country to the point that we are dependent on them, then what?
>> New American jobs created by Bush..."Do you want fries with that?"!!!!
>
> It is called FREE MARKET CAPITALISM, where the bottom line rules.
> Capital will go to where it can be used to make the most profit, and if
> that is China or India, who are we to argue with the FREE MARKET?
>
The next POOR country.

 

[Bill Baka]

William R. Mattil wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>
>
>> New American jobs created by Bush..."Do you want fries with that?"!!!!
>> Bill Baka
>
> Yawn....
>
> Why don't you have a nice tall glass of Kool Aid.
>
> Bill

So I take it you have a job that is out sourcing proof?
Baka San.

 

[Donald Munro]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> So with a little fat in the stuff you mention the guy is getting what,
> 110%? That's great -- we should give 110% effort in races and eat 110%
> too!

Super-motivated ?

 

[Donald Munro]

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> How about fiber? My hemorrhoids want to know.

No ****, your hemorrhoids can talk ?

 

[Roger Zoul]

:: They build their base with time in the saddle. If you do some of your
:: hours at a lower level of intensity, it should pay off in the form
:: of a stronger base with higher sustainable speed.

Hmm....I always have trouble with this statement. I don't think riding slow
and long will help him ride with higher sustainsable speed (the statement is
written to imply that). If he wants to go faster, then he needs to ride
faster. It's just that he'll burn out if he only rides fast and hard all
the time. So the lower intensity riding will allow him to avoid that. In
the process, he build up time in the saddle helping to adapt the body for
riding. Combined with frequent enough (but not too frequent, at first) hard
& fast riding, he should improve.

Of course, the OP sounds like a "type A personality" rider, so they may not
be possible.