Giro D'Italia 2008 : Stage 19 - May 30th : Legnano => Presolana/Monte Pora, 228 km



TheDarkLord said:
If Kloden leaves Astana, my guess is that he will retire.
And then, he can start talking how it was working in T-Mobile and how it's working in Astana... Or he'll wait couple of years to do so.
Anyway, he's great insider.
 
TheDarkLord said:
5 sec would be a big deal to Ricco as he would then be in the pink jersey.
But he needs more than what that 1 second lead would get him to survive through the ITT. You know JB has Contador totally set to be superior to all others (except maybe LL) in the ITT, even the specialists.
 
hawkeye87 said:
But he needs more than what that 1 second lead would get him to survive through the ITT. You know JB has Contador totally set to be superior to all others (except maybe LL) in the ITT, even the specialists.
Yeah.. agreed... however IMHO...

1. Wearing the MR after any stage... especially one so late... is still an honour.
2. If he is going to make up time on Contador tomorrow such that he can win the GIRO after stage 21... every 5 secs helps. If he wins... it's probably going to come down to a handful of seconds.

Sella had every right to try and reduce the gap to Ricco and Di Luca however if he has his sights on a 2nd or 3rd place.
 
Ricco and Di Luca would do anything to wear the jersey going into the final stage. Whether they then win in the last TT is another matter.

Cranky, I can tell you that as for Sella, he is in the dog house here after Ricco's statements. Expect him to attack early today on a suicide mission...
 
Powerful Pete said:
Ricco and Di Luca would do anything to wear the jersey going into the final stage. Whether they then win in the last TT is another matter.

Cranky, I can tell you that as for Sella, he is in the dog house here after Ricco's statements. Expect him to attack early today on a suicide mission...

PP interested to hear that - just how many riders do Astana need to overcome the attacks of 2 riders? What happened to the unwritten rule 'though shalt not help out the race leader'?
 
Italians will have every right to blame organizers if they get the Pink back and then lose it in final TT. It is ridiculous way to finish GT with TT...
 
Haaah Haaah. AC is going to win it! :p

And I love the way AC has won it too.

"But back to Bert's [AC's] maturation. He has waited and watched, timing his strategic moves. He took advantage of his climbing prowess by gaining time in the TT, forcing his competitors to ramp up the pace while he sat on their wheels. The very difficult trio of stages 14-16 play right into this tactic." Chris Brewer, Astana website.
 
musette said:
Haaah Haaah. AC is going to win it! :p

And I love the way AC has won it too.

"But back to Bert's [AC's] maturation. He has waited and watched, timing his strategic moves. He took advantage of his climbing prowess by gaining time in the TT, forcing his competitors to ramp up the pace while he sat on their wheels. The very difficult trio of stages 14-16 play right into this tactic." Chris Brewer, Astana website.
See told ya that's what she'd say. The cult is nothing if not predictable.
 
musette said:
Haaah Haaah. AC is going to win it! :p

And I love the way AC has won it too.

"But back to Bert's [AC's] maturation. He has waited and watched, timing his strategic moves. He took advantage of his climbing prowess by gaining time in the TT, forcing his competitors to ramp up the pace while he sat on their wheels. The very difficult trio of stages 14-16 play right into this tactic." Chris Brewer, Astana website.

I guess that means no-one from Astana can criticise Evans, or anyone else, of being a wheelsucker then - because that's right out of his playbook.

I don't love the way that "Bert" has won it. I don't know how anyone could. Riders who attack will always earn respect. Contador has ridden like a coward this Giro - and just like some of Evans' similar victories and podium finishes - they will garner a result, but no respect.
 
After AC wins the Giro, that puts more pressure for the Tour to invite Astana. Esp if LL wins the Dauphine Libere or Kloden wins the Tour de Suisse.

It would make a farce of this year's Tour if AC would win the Vuelta 08, after having won Tour 07 and Giro 08, and could not participate in the Tour 08.
 
musette said:
After AC wins the Giro, that puts more pressure for the Tour to invite Astana. Esp if LL wins the Dauphine Libere or Kloden wins the Tour de Suisse.

It would make a farce of this year's Tour if AC would win the Vuelta 08, after having won Tour 07 and Giro 08, and could not participate in the Tour 08.
You really have no clue, do you?
 
earth_dweller said:
You really have no clue, do you?
You really think the rational part of the brain is functioning in these people? How do you expect her to have a clue? She will only keep repeating the gibberish posted by the other brainwashed clueless people.

Go musette go! Keep cheering Alpuerto (wheel sucking) Contadope. :D
 
musette said:
After AC wins the Giro, that puts more pressure for the Tour to invite Astana. Esp if LL wins the Dauphine Libere or Kloden wins the Tour de Suisse.

It would make a farce of this year's Tour if AC would win the Vuelta 08, after having won Tour 07 and Giro 08, and could not participate in the Tour 08.
What is happening of Giro is proving that Contador were doped last year on TDF. So it's more better to ban the Disco and Astana boys!

So TDF 07 was the farce... and probably TDF 08 would be a smallest farce.
 
musette said:
After AC wins the Giro, that puts more pressure for the Tour to invite Astana. Esp if LL wins the Dauphine Libere or Kloden wins the Tour de Suisse.

It would make a farce of this year's Tour if AC would win the Vuelta 08, after having won Tour 07 and Giro 08, and could not participate in the Tour 08.
Okay, I actually agree with you, Musette.

I am not an AC fan at all. But the ban of Astana is a joke.

The haphazard inclusion and exclusion of teams is pathetic.

So, for this reason and this reason alone, I'd like to see AC win the Vuelta 08.
 
Contador just made Prudhomme's decision to ban Astana look entirely credible
 
micron said:
Contador just made Prudhomme's decision to ban Astana look entirely credible
The problem is credibility. You can't run a sport and pretend credibilty when you pick and choose who the good and bad guys are. The problem is systemic and let's not forget Astana was not the only team that brought controversy to le tour last year. ASO is inconsitent the same way UCI crucified Ullrich while championing a "reformed" Basso.

Look, we arent going to get a clean sport here. So let them all ride.
 
Klodifan said:
The problem is credibility. You can't run a sport and pretend credibilty when you pick and choose who the good and bad guys are. The problem is systemic and let's not forget Astana was not the only team that brought controversy to le tour last year. ASO is inconsitent the same way UCI crucified Ullrich while championing a "reformed" Basso.

Look, we arent going to get a clean sport here. So let them all ride.
We have covered this before. There is a lot of politics involved here. It is all to do with ASO vs UCI. Too bad that Astana got caught in it. The fact that they had issues for 2 years rather than just last year makes it more convenient for ASO.
 

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