Giro sprint

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  1. steve

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    This full report is HERE :D

     
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    Cool photo. Watch the race commisar (sp?) in the background...full view over proceedings.
     
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    Anyone watch stage 12 yesterday? How's that Monte Zoncolan climb? 14% average gradient and a 28% at the end!
     
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    They where almost walking to the top. Even the grupetto splattered apart. And this was only the easy side of the Zoncolan :). I watched the last few k's especially the performance of Pantani was promising, and don't forget youngster popovych.
     
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    A realy stupid question and most likely in the wrong thread as well but what the hell?
    How exactly do they work out the % gradient of a climb? VO2 you said 14% and 28% ???? Please help me to work this out.
    Also VO2 I know you've done the Argus what would the gradient of OKW be? (just to cpompare)
     
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    Ou kaapse weg is about 7k long and gains something of around 280 meters which makes it 4% or a little more on average

    Zoncolan this way is 13,5k(twice as long) and 9%(and not 14) on average which makes you gain 1200 meters

    So zoncolan is more then twice as steep, with at the end(see graph) the real steep section(3-3,5 times as OKW)

    for zoncolan http://www.salite.ch/zoncolan.htm (very detailed salite is a great site for europe)

    or http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2003/giro03/?id=stages/stage12

    So OKW is average on length and fairly easy on gradient.
     
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    a referrence when you would be riding 25km/h on ou kaapse weg in the final 3 k's of zoncolan given the same effort your speed would be 9,4km/h
     
  8. steve

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    I still reckon Baldato had more than enough room in that sprint, the photo is all the proof anyone needs to realise that! :D :D :D

    Zoncolan looks like abit of a burg....does anyone know where we can download some video of the last few km's? Pantani looks like he's getting it together, its a pitty we wont be seeing him in the TDF :mad:

    cheers
     
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    Tx, for the reply maarten, I never thought it's that bad. Do they change their gearsets between stages when they know what's waiting for them in the next stage?
     
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    Most riders keep the front cogs the same(in general 39or 42-53). Its just the casette on the rear wheel that's changed the 11-21 or 11-23 will be replaces by a 11-25(normal mountain stages) or 11-28(29) or 12-28(29) for killers stages like zoncolan.
    Thats work for the mecanics but changing a casette is fairly easy/fast and lots of times they have special climbing wheels with them with the monster casette already on.

    Sometimes the double on the front is changed for a tripple but this is done seldom as its time consuming when you have to do this on all the bikes and most riders find 39-28 enough to get up the killer mountains.

    Note that riders(and certainly top GC contenders) have special ligther climbing wheels or often another lighter/different geometry frame for the mountain stages.
     
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    Just to split some hairs of correctness here - the gradient is actually the elevation gain divided by the horizontal distance. If you think of a triangle the road follows the hypoteneuse which is obviously longer than the horizontal distance and so if you use the road distance in the equation you'll get a somewhat lower figure for the % grade. For grades less than 10% the difference is negligible

    I can't help it... I'm paid to pay attention to details.
     
  13. steve

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    Bloody hell!! I wouldn't wanna go down that hill, never mind UP it!! :D
    Thats what I bought a car for. :p
     
  15. maarten

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    Nope Its a little too much.



    Bloody hell!! I wouldn't wanna go down that hill, never mind UP it!!
    Thats what I bought a car for.

    You probabely burn your clutch befor you get halfway.
     
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    Yesterday was an epic stage! Three climbs, rain, there was ice on the road too. A great day for Frigo who likes cold weather, Popovych was promising much but then lost 3 minutes on the final climb. Pantani crashed on the last descent but continued bravely. And Simoni is by far the strongest man on the Giro this year. Can he be a threat to Armstrong, at least on the mountains? I hope so.
     
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    No, not this year. Yes, there's a lot of outstanding climbs all around Europe. Some of them are very long and steep. But where's the point where we can say "hey, this is turning into torture"?
     
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