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> Tom Kunich Wrote:
>> Yeah, let's see - it takes REAL leadership to jump off of a cliff
>> sceaming, "I'm doing this for humanityyyyyyyyyy!"
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> Once again, you have shot yourself in the foot.
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> The cliff leap scenario is a potential outcome of doing nothing about
> our contributions to climate change.
Let me explain this to you in terms that even a lamp post might be able to
understand - THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING. There is climate cyclic variation.
People that tell you that there is global warming are stupid because it
would take a couple of thousands of years of ACCURATE temperture monitoring
to find short term cyclic variations in the weather pattern. And they there
are the larger cycles such as the 150 thousand year ice age cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age .
Pretending to knowledge that cannot exist with the data we have could not be
a dumber idea. But I suppose if we consider the source then we shouldn't be
at all surprised.
Here's todays PRESENT cost of idiots like you
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=38601
"Biofuels, and specifically ethanol, have been the subject of a great deal
of criticism in recent months by detractors claiming that more energy is
required to produce ethanol than is available in the final product, that it
is too expensive, and that it produces negligible carbon reductions. These
critiques are simply not accurate."
Now isn't this just precious - except the "detractors" were REAL scientists
who published reports in Nature and Science detailing how much energy it
took to produce a gallon of ethanol using corn or soybeans.
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070203/food.asp
"Shoppers, brace yourselves. Higher across-the-board supermarket prices may
be around the corner, says agricultural economist Lester Brown. A rapidly
escalating demand for the corn that underlies a broad range of products-from
breakfast cereals to milk and meats-has been driving up the price of this
grain, he notes. Those commodity-price hikes could soon inflate the cost of
plenty of other products."
"About 3 weeks after Brown released his report to that effect, President
Bush in his State of the Union address called for a new decade-long program
aimed at reducing U.S. gasoline use by 20 percent. "To reach this goal," the
President said, "we must increase the supply of alternative fuels [to]
nearly five times the current target." In an online brief about energy
provisions mentioned in the address, the White House explained that this new
program would rely on ethanol made from corn and grasses."
"However, only corn distilleries are ready to ramp up their production of
ethanol within the President's timeframe. The Energy Department acknowledges
that new, more complicated technologies will be needed before other ethanol
sources, such as switchgrass, become economically feasible."
"The competition for corn between motors and mouths has already grown at a
pace unforeseen by either the U.S. government or the alternative-fuels
industry, Brown says. Indeed, he found, neither had done a realistic
projection of corn demand from ethanol distilleries even in the near
future."
"Brown created such a projection mainly by tallying existing fuel
distilleries and those under construction and in planning. His work shows
that by the 2008 harvest, ethanol-fuel distilleries will need 139 million
metric tons of corn-more than twice the amount that the U.S. Department of
Agriculture had predicted. In fact, the total that Brown has calculated
would amount to half the total U.S. corn harvest-up from just 20 percent
now."
"With the United States producing 70 percent of the corn that other
countries import from all sources, shifting very much of the grain from food
into energy could have global economic repercussions, Brown says. "If we
want to continue down this path, I think it should be the result of
conscious policymaking," he says. That's not the case today, he adds."
"Brown says that in this country, U.S. policymakers need to start asking
themselves whether fuel is the best use of grain. The amount required "to
fill a 25-gallon SUV tank with ethanol will feed a person for a year," he
notes. If we're not careful, the United States could be seen as reducing
corn exports for the sake of fueling bad-mileage vehicles, says Brown. "That
would not be a positive image."
I've been pointing out that the results of stupid alarmist jackasses such as
yourself is the death of concievably millions and millions of people since
the USA presently supplies 60% of the world's surplus food production.
But I've never seen the death of millions to bother Liberals in the least.