desert_RAT said:No way I don't think so. We are no doubt polluting the earth. Without a doubt. however, I feel there is absolutely nothing we could do to destroy the earth.
Let every nuke rip at one time and the earth would survive. It would eventually thrive once again.
Science tells us the earth goes through climate changes on a massive scale. Billions of years go by and temps vary here and there.
I just do not agree we can manipulate it that much. Not enough to have that decide the way I vote or live.
That being said. I am for pollution controls. I use to live in Phoenix Arzizona. That whole city is covered with a brown cloud.
I also saw a report on how Houston Texas makes it own rain storms due to the "heat sink" it has become.
I just don't buy the whole "global warming" propaganda.
desert_RAT said:I just don't buy the whole "global warming" propaganda.
lumpy said:Global warming isn't going to destroy the earth. It'll cause sea levels to rise and flood coastal areas. Millions will be displaced by the flooding of cities worldwide. Dry areas will become drier. The American grain belt won't get enough rain and crops will fail there and in much of the world. Deserts will expand and place even more strain on the food supply. Wet areas will get even more rain and storms will be more violent and more common.
There will be millions of starving homeless people - if that's not a recipe for disaster and world strife, I don't know what is.
The worlds not going to end. But if you have kids, it'll be a much harder life for them then we have it now.
desert_RAT said:that's it don't articulate a point. Just insult what others have said.
Yer good!
desert_RAT said:You didn't go to far in school, I'm guessing.
That's tuff big guy.
By the way "big guy" is an insult. A condescension towards you. I will continue to use it. Ok, big guy?
'conf used' is one worddesert_RAT said:conf used:
desert_RAT said:Yes. I finally agree with you. At this rate we should warm up 5 degrees by the year 4941.
desert_RAT said:Seems how I didn't type that word.
desert_RAT said:Yes. I finally agree with you. At this rate we should warm up 5 degrees by the year 4941.
limerickman said:Actually, mean temperature rates have risen expotentially during the last 100 years, compared to centuries before.
Average temperatures have risen 2.5 degrees celsius in the last 100 years.
You do do mathematics there in Kindergarden, don't ya?
MountainPro said:lim, he struggles with basic English skills, how the hell do you expect him to cope with 'exponentially'...i have heard of steep learning curves but that one is almost vertical.
Again, you would know!lumpy said:It's real all right.
lumpy said:Global warming isn't going to destroy the earth. It'll cause sea levels to rise and flood coastal areas. Millions will be displaced by the flooding of cities worldwide. Dry areas will become drier. The American grain belt won't get enough rain and crops will fail there and in much of the world. Deserts will expand and place even more strain on the food supply. Wet areas will get even more rain and storms will be more violent and more common.
There will be millions of starving homeless people - if that's not a recipe for disaster and world strife, I don't know what is.
The worlds not going to end. But if you have kids, it'll be a much harder life for them then we have it now.
ndbiker said:In the 1970's we were all going to die of starvation because of the ice age we were causing because of pollution. If that didn't do it the population boom was going to cause us to not to be able to produce enough food to feed all the people on the planet by the late 1970's. Along with killer bees, various viruses, and perhaps a stray asteriod it's amazing we're still around. So far none have transpired. The media loves disaster scenarios and people love to dream them up. Scientists can get funding to study them so it feeds on itself. We have a tough time predicting tomorrows weather, what makes us think we can even begin to predict our affect on the climate? Reducing pollution, conservation,working to shift to renewable energy sources, reducing our dependence on others for our energy needs are laudable goals for their own sake. I don't need to be scared into making changes.
limerickman said:The science tells us that if the present rate of greenhouse gas emmissions is maintained, the earths mean temperature will rise by 3 - 4 degrees celsius.
That rise is a fact - and it is incontrovertible.
What pattern any subsequent weather pattern changes are inflicted, as a result of that increase, are largely academic.
What should be concentrating minds is maintaining (or ideally reducing)
current/future temperature increases.
The only way to do this is for the world to cut greenhouse gas emmissions - now.
ndbiker said:I realize that many scientist are saying just what you indicate. Many also say(although less quoted) that while there has been nominal increase in temperature over the past hundred years the expected future increase should be much milder than the 3-4 degrees C which you have quoted.
ndbiker said:Since much of this is theory based on computer models,
ndbiker said:I am still of the opinion that far easier to induce mass hysteria than to prove that we are heading for some impending catastrophe. Since we love a good catastrophe it is milked for all it's worth. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions just mandate that all gasoline and diesel fuels smell like rotting carcasses when burned. Then folks will have a real motivation to reduce auto emissions.
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