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On Apr 19, 6:45 am, Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:32:58 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
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> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 7:18 am, Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
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> >> Economic progress leads to a cleaner environment. Even in our lifetime, we've
> >> seen it. Or at least I have.
>
> >> Warmer climate is better for people and other living things. Historic warm
> >> periods have not lead to the disasters that orthodox warmism predicts. In fact
> >> they were highly beneficial.
>
> >> Climate change is a reality. The climate will change, it always has. It has done
> >> so with no contribution from humans. Deal.
>
> >Some of the cleaner environment came from bad old
> >govmint regulation too. Like on cars, and steel plants.
>
> >It's a question of timescale. People, animals and
> >plants can adapt to changes that occur on 20,000
> >year timescales. Put the same change on a 50-100 year
> >timescale and there will be a lot of dislocation.
> >It's not that we'd all go extinct (though some of
> >the plants and animals will) it's that the quality
> >of life will be substantially affected. Think of it
> >as a lifestyle issue.
>
> Look at the actual history. While we don't have thermometer readings from the
> past we have records of what crops were grown where and in what quantity.
>
> The medieval period was warm enough for the British vinyards. We are nowhere
> close to seeing that happen again.
Dear Calvin,
This doesn't address timescale. British wine isn't
very well known today, but there are people who suggest
olives will be grown in southern Britain in a few years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period
Ben
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:32:58 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 7:18 am, Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
>
> >> Economic progress leads to a cleaner environment. Even in our lifetime, we've
> >> seen it. Or at least I have.
>
> >> Warmer climate is better for people and other living things. Historic warm
> >> periods have not lead to the disasters that orthodox warmism predicts. In fact
> >> they were highly beneficial.
>
> >> Climate change is a reality. The climate will change, it always has. It has done
> >> so with no contribution from humans. Deal.
>
> >Some of the cleaner environment came from bad old
> >govmint regulation too. Like on cars, and steel plants.
>
> >It's a question of timescale. People, animals and
> >plants can adapt to changes that occur on 20,000
> >year timescales. Put the same change on a 50-100 year
> >timescale and there will be a lot of dislocation.
> >It's not that we'd all go extinct (though some of
> >the plants and animals will) it's that the quality
> >of life will be substantially affected. Think of it
> >as a lifestyle issue.
>
> Look at the actual history. While we don't have thermometer readings from the
> past we have records of what crops were grown where and in what quantity.
>
> The medieval period was warm enough for the British vinyards. We are nowhere
> close to seeing that happen again.
Dear Calvin,
This doesn't address timescale. British wine isn't
very well known today, but there are people who suggest
olives will be grown in southern Britain in a few years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warm_period
Ben