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Bill C wrote:
> Yeah, I did and the numbers keep dropping, but I think they have
> chosen not to vote rather than vote for the Democrat so it hurts, but
> it's not a double effect, and the majority of the military is coming
> from States that are pretty firmly Republican anyway so it has about as
> much effect as my voting does here in Mass. I was just reading where
> the national Democratic party put the screws to one of the Iraq war
> vets they had been pushing hard to run once one of the Good Ol' Boy
> networks pols decided he'd like to run for that seat. They cut his
> funding off by calling everyone and telling them NOT to give him money,
> apparently Schumer was leading the way on this but his office wouldn't
> return calls on the subject.
> They really keep shooting themselves in the foot and just can't seem
> to focus on the things that would sway swing voters. They just keep
> pounding away at their base, arguing that all they need to do is get
> the base "energized". If that hasn't worked yet, after all this, then
> it's hopeless, but as you pointed out, they are hidebound in how they
> do things. I think the Republicans have been smart enough to, at least
> publicly, marginalize their nutcases while the Dem's feature them and
> play them up. Just doesn't sell to middle America and the swing states.
dumbass,
this is only my outsiders perspective, but somehow the american public
has been convinced they what they want in a leader is someone who
"represents" them, or at least how they ideally see themselves -- as
opposed to someone who will WORK for them. which is why if a candidate
is happily married is apprently more important than their track record
on environmental issues. and apprently this stupid **** cheney hunting
fiasco might actually be a bigger political blunder than possibily
having leaked classified information to the press in order to justify
attacking Iraq.
> You're probably right about both the upcoming elections. I'm really
> afraid that they are going to nominate Hillary whose negative rating
> rivals Bush's even at this point. Obama is gaining crediblity, but is
> still too young and green to stick, especially against Guilliani.
I can't understand at all why Hillary Clinton has been vilified. When
Clinton was running for president the press and columnists were gushed
about her and how she's the "real brains" in that marriage and how
accomplished she is and how much she would elevate the role of first
lady yadda yadda.
she might not have been the ideal person to reform healthcare, but as
soon as she was in a position of power it was open season on her and
she now has been stigmatized as a witch. so Obama looks like a goden
boy now, but once it looks like he might be in a position of real power
the republicans are going to come up with his version of the swift boat
veterans and the issue of "who he is" is going to overshadow "what he
will do". even if the facts aren't there they do such a great job
"casting doubts" that what's true doesn't even matter.
> Yeah, I did and the numbers keep dropping, but I think they have
> chosen not to vote rather than vote for the Democrat so it hurts, but
> it's not a double effect, and the majority of the military is coming
> from States that are pretty firmly Republican anyway so it has about as
> much effect as my voting does here in Mass. I was just reading where
> the national Democratic party put the screws to one of the Iraq war
> vets they had been pushing hard to run once one of the Good Ol' Boy
> networks pols decided he'd like to run for that seat. They cut his
> funding off by calling everyone and telling them NOT to give him money,
> apparently Schumer was leading the way on this but his office wouldn't
> return calls on the subject.
> They really keep shooting themselves in the foot and just can't seem
> to focus on the things that would sway swing voters. They just keep
> pounding away at their base, arguing that all they need to do is get
> the base "energized". If that hasn't worked yet, after all this, then
> it's hopeless, but as you pointed out, they are hidebound in how they
> do things. I think the Republicans have been smart enough to, at least
> publicly, marginalize their nutcases while the Dem's feature them and
> play them up. Just doesn't sell to middle America and the swing states.
dumbass,
this is only my outsiders perspective, but somehow the american public
has been convinced they what they want in a leader is someone who
"represents" them, or at least how they ideally see themselves -- as
opposed to someone who will WORK for them. which is why if a candidate
is happily married is apprently more important than their track record
on environmental issues. and apprently this stupid **** cheney hunting
fiasco might actually be a bigger political blunder than possibily
having leaked classified information to the press in order to justify
attacking Iraq.
> You're probably right about both the upcoming elections. I'm really
> afraid that they are going to nominate Hillary whose negative rating
> rivals Bush's even at this point. Obama is gaining crediblity, but is
> still too young and green to stick, especially against Guilliani.
I can't understand at all why Hillary Clinton has been vilified. When
Clinton was running for president the press and columnists were gushed
about her and how she's the "real brains" in that marriage and how
accomplished she is and how much she would elevate the role of first
lady yadda yadda.
she might not have been the ideal person to reform healthcare, but as
soon as she was in a position of power it was open season on her and
she now has been stigmatized as a witch. so Obama looks like a goden
boy now, but once it looks like he might be in a position of real power
the republicans are going to come up with his version of the swift boat
veterans and the issue of "who he is" is going to overshadow "what he
will do". even if the facts aren't there they do such a great job
"casting doubts" that what's true doesn't even matter.