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Google joins EOM! Pictures at 11.

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  1. If you look at

    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=R8GdncKCPfgDQbKiRTvU2Q%40ilhawaii.net

    you will see a message containing the following headers:

    Quoted message said:

    NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 11:34:37 -0500
    From: "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    References: <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]>
    Subject: Re: Quackbusters
    Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:34:23 -1000

    In that message, someone who can be assumed to be called "Rich
    Shewmaker" wrote these words:

    Quoted message said:

    No, Peter gets $5 everytime Jan hawks up and reposts that Jesse Gelsinger
    story with the claim that doing so somehow proves that Peter is a liar.

    This message stored by Google has been rejected as a defence against
    the charge that I am lying when I say that Rich Shewmaker mentioned
    giving money to me whenever someone called "Jan" used the name of
    Jesse Gelsinger to defame me.

    It is interesting to note that the person who rejects this message
    from the Google archives habitually tells people to look in that very
    archive to see what has been said in the past. This hypocrisy is
    consistent with a recent comment by that same person, saying "I make
    an effort to stay away from the devil's playground" when asked to read
    the words of a committed Christian who objects to lies and deceit.

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    I'm a Bright. Are you?

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Google joins EOM! Pictures at 11.
    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    Date: 8/9/2003 11:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    If you look at

    http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=R8GdncKCPfgDQbKiRTvU2Q%40ilhawaii.net

    you will see a message containing the following headers:

    Quoted message said:

    NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 11:34:37 -0500
    From: "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    References: <[email hidden]>


    <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Quackbusters
    Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 06:34:23 -1000

    Yes. August 5 comes after 7-02 Which states:

    From: Rich Shewmaker ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Jan the Accuser
    View: Complete Thread (48 articles)
    Original Format
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2003-07-02 01:51:16 PST

    I just had a great idea! As of July 1, I will donate $1 to quackwatch.com
    every time Jan calls someone a LIAR, and donate $5 every time she says
    something negative about Dr. Barrett or his websites, up to a maximum of
    $100 per month, until further notice. The principle of free speech and the
    nature of the internet make it impossible to prevent her invective, but I
    can at least make it sting a little bit every time she misbehaves.

    If anyone
    would like to join me, I will post the totals of the transgressions and the
    appropriate amount at the end of each month until further notice. It is easy
    to donate. The more who join in, the more negative reinforcement is applied.
    See:
    ====

    On 7-31 you posted this:

    From: Peter Bowditch ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Thank you, Rich.
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
    Date: 2003-07-31 22:30:11 PST

    <snipping to the issue>

    Jan is now quoting where PayPal included Rich's message that he
    attached to the donation. The proof she is asking for is IN THE
    ARCHIVES, where she was told that every time she mentioned Jesse, Rich
    would make a donation. She obviously did it at lest 15 times. That is
    how she facilitated the donation

    That proof was NOT in the archives on 7-31.

    Quoted message said:

    In that message, someone who can be assumed to be called "Rich
    Shewmaker" wrote these words:

    Quoted message said:

    No, Peter gets $5 everytime Jan hawks up and reposts that Jesse Gelsinger
    story with the claim that doing so somehow proves that Peter is a liar.

    It proves you made a mistake and was confused. It isn't a sin to make a mistake
    Peter, but not admitting you made one is very telling.

    YOU AND RICH ARE BOTH BUSTED.

    YOU ARE BOTH BEING DISHONEST.

    Furthermore you are DESPERATELY making a fool of yourself!!

    Get over your EGO, be a man and admit, you made a mistake!!

    Jan

  3. --

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    YOU ARE BOTH BEING DISHONEST.

    Furthermore you are DESPERATELY making a fool of yourself!!

    Get over your EGO, be a man and admit, you made a mistake!!

    Jan

    I'm being dishonest? I honestly promised to donate $5 to Ratbags every time
    you reposted the Jesse article to discredit Peter (up to a maximum of
    $75/month) and I did so. What's dishonest about that? I'll continue to do so
    until further notice.

    So, without any dishonesty or desperation at all, I say...

    $ KaChing $35

    --Rich

    FROM THE ARCHIVES 2003-07-02:

    "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mark Thorson said:
    Rich Shewmaker said:

    I just had a great idea! As of July 1, I will donate $1 to


    quackwatch.com

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    every time Jan calls someone a LIAR, and donate $5 every time she says
    something negative about Dr. Barrett or his websites, up to a maximum


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    $100 per month, until further notice. The principle of free speech and


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nature of the internet make it impossible to prevent her invective, but


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can at least make it sting a little bit every time she misbehaves. If


    anyone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would like to join me, I will post the totals of the transgressions and


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    appropriate amount at the end of each month until further notice. It is


    easy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to donate. The more who join in, the more negative reinforcement is


    applied.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I'll match that -- if you count up the total each month.
    I don't read every post, so I can't count them up myself.

    Hey! I've got a PayPal button too!

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight

    Fair enough. A five bucks to yours every time Jan reposts the Gelsinger
    tirade or the FDA bash that starts "In recent years, there has been an
    upsurge of . . ." to "prove" something or other about you. Max $75/month.

    --Rich

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