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Simon Brooke
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in message <[email protected]>, redbirdo
('[email protected]') wrote:
> On Jul 12, 9:01 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> in message <[email protected]>, Sir
>>
>> Jeremy ('[email protected]') wrote:
>> > On 11 Jul, 13:47, Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
>>
>> >> If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive
>> >> to the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier
>>
>> > That's a stupid suggestion. Most of the people who visit a surgery are
>> > elderly or young mothers with children. Very few are capable of
>> > cycling, even if they wanted to.
>>
>> Young mothers with children can cycle perfectly easy.
>
> I am a mother of 2 young children aged 4yrs and 17months. Yes I
> personally can (and do) cycle easily - without the kids. However, I
> suspect the comment related to travelling as a 'mother with young
> children' which I personally find near impossible on a bike. We do own
> a tag-along and bike trailer but I don't fancy using them in
> combination although my husband was tempted to have a go at
> CenterParcs...! The trailer is too small for both kids and I don't
> like bike seats so I can't cycle with both kids unless my 4yr old is
> on his own bike. Theres no way I'm taking him on a road aged 4 and
> cycling with stabilisers (is this overly risk-averse?) and it isn't
> sensible to take the trailer on pavements.
http://www.bakfiets.nl/eng/models_cargo_bike_long.php
Seats one adult and up to four small children. There are a lot of other
solutions commonly used in the Netherlands and Denmark but the Bakfiets
style (there are other makers of this style) seems to me particularly
practical. The 8freight style
http://www.velovision.com/mag/issue9/8freight.pdf
can also be used as a child carrier, but I think the bakfiets style is
better for this purpose because the children are in front of you, where
you can see them. Any of these solutions is obviously more suited to less
hilly places, because of weight. In really hilly places some form of
tricycle may be more practical, because it won't wobble if you go really
slowly on hills.
I certainly wouldn't suggest taking a child on the road on a bike with
stabilisers.
See also
http://www.esimex.dk/longjohn.htm
http://zerocouriers.com/workbike/
--
[email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
I shall continue to be an impossible person so long as those
who are now possible remain possible -- Michael Bakunin
('[email protected]') wrote:
> On Jul 12, 9:01 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> in message <[email protected]>, Sir
>>
>> Jeremy ('[email protected]') wrote:
>> > On 11 Jul, 13:47, Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
>>
>> >> If people thought that they might not be able to park when they drive
>> >> to the surgery with a cold, they might suddenly become healthier
>>
>> > That's a stupid suggestion. Most of the people who visit a surgery are
>> > elderly or young mothers with children. Very few are capable of
>> > cycling, even if they wanted to.
>>
>> Young mothers with children can cycle perfectly easy.
>
> I am a mother of 2 young children aged 4yrs and 17months. Yes I
> personally can (and do) cycle easily - without the kids. However, I
> suspect the comment related to travelling as a 'mother with young
> children' which I personally find near impossible on a bike. We do own
> a tag-along and bike trailer but I don't fancy using them in
> combination although my husband was tempted to have a go at
> CenterParcs...! The trailer is too small for both kids and I don't
> like bike seats so I can't cycle with both kids unless my 4yr old is
> on his own bike. Theres no way I'm taking him on a road aged 4 and
> cycling with stabilisers (is this overly risk-averse?) and it isn't
> sensible to take the trailer on pavements.
http://www.bakfiets.nl/eng/models_cargo_bike_long.php
Seats one adult and up to four small children. There are a lot of other
solutions commonly used in the Netherlands and Denmark but the Bakfiets
style (there are other makers of this style) seems to me particularly
practical. The 8freight style
http://www.velovision.com/mag/issue9/8freight.pdf
can also be used as a child carrier, but I think the bakfiets style is
better for this purpose because the children are in front of you, where
you can see them. Any of these solutions is obviously more suited to less
hilly places, because of weight. In really hilly places some form of
tricycle may be more practical, because it won't wobble if you go really
slowly on hills.
I certainly wouldn't suggest taking a child on the road on a bike with
stabilisers.
See also
http://www.esimex.dk/longjohn.htm
http://zerocouriers.com/workbike/
--
[email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
I shall continue to be an impossible person so long as those
who are now possible remain possible -- Michael Bakunin