Greatest Athlete of All Time?



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"Bruce Johnston" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> True, it's not. He can answer or ignore anything he wants but quite often
he
> seems to just post jokes instead of adding anything helpful. I think that's his way of thumbing
> his nose at posts he feels are irreverent or for
idiots,
> and his superiority complex doesn't allow his to be serious.

Dumbass -

that's pretty funny. Ewoud and I were joking.
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>>>I thought you Euros were into this sort of thing. Perhaps the lack of mountains in the
>>>Netherlands explains it.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> What about the Cauberg :) ?

Stewart Fleming wrote:
> It's not even 8,000m LONG let alone high.

:) = Humour (see:
http://www.computeruser.com/resources/dictionary/emoticons.html )

Kurgan should consider inventing an emoticon for dumbass.
 
Bruce Johnston schreef:

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> I am going to side with Henry on this in my own way. I remember you don't even have the decency to
> answer polite questions about your own countryman [LZVM] in the past. In fact as long as I have
> been in this NG I cannot remember you ever saying anything nice about her, not even once. NL is a
> small country and I understand that for the most part they are very supportive of their stars. So
> your lack of grace is puzzling.

bla bla

Perhaps Ewoud's Leontien collection is smaller than yours, but I'm sure his is way hotter.
 
In article <[email protected]>, "Bruce Johnston" <[email protected]> wrote:

> True, it's not. He can answer or ignore anything he wants but quite often he seems to just post
> jokes instead of adding anything helpful. I think that's his way of thumbing his nose at posts he
> feels are irreverent or for idiots, and his superiority complex doesn't allow his to be serious.
> It would be better not posting at all in those instances, IMO, but he can do what he wants. That's
> part of the problem I think Henry is talking about, and that's what I see. Everybody jokes now and
> then but he is the ultimate joker. As least Henry will answer the question usually, with a small
> price to pay, but at least that's better then some guy throwing jokes all the time.

Bruce, In an earlier post, you said of Ewoud: "At least you could be a little more genuine." My
reading of his posts does indicate he's a joker/wiseguy, but I don't think it has anything to do
with superiority. More that he sees humor in most things, perhaps (just a guess, as I'm not a mind
reader or Miss Cleo type). His presentation seems genuine to me. Obviously, it's human nature that
some people will like that and some may not.
--
tanx, Howard

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room." George C. Scott, Dr. Strangelove

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
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> "Bruce Johnston" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> > True, it's not. He can answer or ignore anything he wants but quite
often
> he
> > seems to just post jokes instead of adding anything helpful. I think
that's
> > his way of thumbing his nose at posts he feels are irreverent or for
> idiots,
> > and his superiority complex doesn't allow his to be serious.
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> Dumbass -
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> that's pretty funny. Ewoud and I were joking.

Yes Master Henry, but I wasn't. He took a dig on me a while back, so it was a good time for me to
vent since it was a parallel as far as I see it anyway. I don't really like his goofy antics, any
buffoon can act like that.
 
Bruce Johnston schreef:

> Yes Master Henry, but I wasn't. He took a dig on me a while back, so it was a good time for me to
> vent since it was a parallel as far as I see it anyway. I don't really like his goofy antics, any
> buffoon can act like that.

I'm not sure many people will understand what you're talking about. At least to me, it makes no
sense at all.

Bart, better informed on Flemish one hundreders than Himalya eight thousanders
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
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>> Dumbass -
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>> that's pretty funny. Ewoud and I were joking.

Bruce Johnston wrote:
> Yes Master Henry, but I wasn't. He took a dig on me a while back, so it was a good time for me to
> vent since it was a parallel as far as I see it anyway. I don't really like his goofy antics, any
> buffoon can act like that.

Dumbass,

We're all buffoons on this newsgroup. We come here to practice important social skills such as
libel, defamation and crimen injuria.
 
Donald Munro schreef:

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> Dumbass,
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> We're all buffoons on this newsgroup. We come here to practice important social skills such as
> libel, defamation and crimen injuria.

exactly. OTOH, when confronted with wannabe wiseguy dumbasses IRL we display outmost patience and
good manners. I've even seen Ewoud act thus.
 
Bruce Johnston wrote:
> "Ewoud Dronkert" wrote

[snipped, since it's irrelevant to your rant]

> I am going to side with Henry on this in my own way. I remember you don't even have the decency to
> answer polite questions about your own countryman [LZVM] in the past. In fact as long as I have
> been in this NG I cannot remember you ever saying anything nice about her, not even once. NL is a
> small country and I understand that for the most part they are very supportive of their stars. So
> your lack of grace is puzzling.

Hmmm. I'm guessing that if Ewoud isn't answering your questions about LvM, it's either: 1) he
doesn't see your questions because he doesn't read them; or 2) he's even more creeped out than I am
and doesn't want to be your enabler.

Or maybe both.
 
Bruce Johnston wrote:
> Everybody jokes now and then but he is the ultimate joker. As least Henry will answer the
> question usually, with a small price to pay, but at least that's better then some guy throwing
> jokes all the time.

you don't have to like him, but how you got the idea that all he does is joke, i'm not sure. i have
pasted in his informative/interesting posts that are on my newsreader from the last couple of weeks.

heather, likes a good joke anyway and now i'm late to work, dang it

On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 12:10:41 GMT, Andy Coggan wrote:
> "warren" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Has anyone taken nandrolone and then produced their food bar containing nandrolone and gotten
> > off because of that?
>
> [...] So to answer your question, no.

But on the other hand highly paid footballers Frank de Boer and Edgar Davids both got their positive
nandrolon tests scrapped in no-time through expensive legal procedures where one of the defence's
reasons was contaminated supplements (also controversial tests, procedural mistakes, etc.).

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:23:34 GMT, Nev Shea wrote:
> A) Ullrich drives into a bike rack
> B) VDB has "medical products" for his dog
> C) Frigo busted for counterfeit hemassist (or whatever it was) which he kept at room temperature
> D) The mentally fragile David Millar
> E) Riis Bike Tossing

f. Simoni with the South-American candy his auntie gave him.
g. Rumsas with his car stuffed full with all the best dope, all for his poor sick grandmother (or
mother-in-law, was it?).
h. Zaaf in an early post-war Tour, enormous lead, stopped to drink, only it was a whole bottle of
wine, fell asleep by the roadside, when he woke up took off in the wrong direction.
i. Karstens in a 70s TdF making a very early breakaway through a town, got out of sight, hid behind
a shed, rejoined the peloton at the back and laughed the whole day at their fruitless chase.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:06:25 GMT, h squared wrote:
> it's in dutch so i'm clueless, but i did wonder what happened to this guy? [pic1] followed up
> by [pic2]

He was in my team but wasn't very well prepared, got back pain and had to abandon, stepped into our
support car. In Dutch or not, there's obviously no mention of him on the result page.

> is that what summer normally looks like there? brr

Well we had some record temperatures this summer (7 days in a row 30+ celsius, woohoo!) but now it
seems autumn has set in with a vengeance, yes. Today again rainy and 15C :(

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:09:18 -0600, Ken Bessler wrote:
>>> A good cardio-vascular workout is evident when the pulse is elevated to 25-50% above the
>>> resting rate.
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>> Hmmm. My resting HR is about 50-55bpm. Just standing around I'm at 75-80. So am I getting a good
>> cardiovascular workout then?
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> I was quoting my Dr. He might have under reported the number for me because I have hypertension, I
> don't know.

It may be he meant 25-50% of your HR range. Say your resting HR is 60 and maxHR is 180, range is
120. Then 25-50% is 90-120. Even so, I would not call the lower range of that a good cardio-vascular
outfit, but I have no experience with untrained individuals.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC), Didier A. Depireux wrote:
> > Now that you've explained "wasp," can you explain "baxter?"
>
> Baxter is not a code name. It means getting a med by IV line, diluted in Ringer's solution
> (Dextrose, i.e.).

I think Chung knew, and he wanted to know how "wasp in inner tire" means "aranesp in baxter". In
(southern) Dutch, one would say "wesp in 'ne tuub" where 'tuub' is one pronounciation of 'tube',
which is the same as in English, so it could also mean the tube of the IV line. Alternatively, one
could say "wesp in de binnenband" or "wesp in m'n bandje" or something like that, where 'band' just
half-way sounds like baxter.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:08:20 +1000, Andrew Swan wrote:
> What does "palmares" mean, and what language does it come from? tried translating it in BabelFish
> from Spanish and Italian.

Palmarès is French and means 'prize list' in short or: list of career victories and placings.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:33:00 GMT, Trip wrote:

> I don't like calling people a dumbass either, but flaming me without reading the question is
> pretty dumb, n'est pas?

I wasn't flaming, or at least that wasn't my intention. The answer is: to win. If one sport has
different categories, it is to group people with the same characteristics, whatever those may be. If
the categories are numbered 1-5 and all beginners start in 5 by default, apparently the categories
are ability graded. People who can race equally fast will end up in the same category and will have
the same chances of winning. So people who downgrade have either become slower and will now fit
better in a lower category (the slow fat aging master), or they have not become slower but value
wins in inferior fields above the joys of competing in challenging fields (the sandbagger). Either
way, they want to improve their chances of winning.

But this is just my theory; I don't have a racing license, I have never even been to the US, and I
know nothing of USCF rules.

Oh, and it's "n'est-ce pas?"

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:19:27 -0400, smiles wrote:
> Does this mean they are dumping ONCE or what ever the new name will be?

Not necessarily. For instance, sponsoring more than one pro team is regular practice for Colnago.
Giant are probably covering their bets for the eventuality that team ONCE disolves completely.

On 16 Sep 2003 04:19:03 GMT, Richard Adams wrote:
> Freddy Rodriquez [...] in the Vuelta and had a fine finish today, but not as fine as Zabel.

Did you see the finish? Rodriguez was "sprinting" with his hands on top of the bars. Weird. Zabel
was the only one out of the saddle to the finish and as things go he won.

On 16 Sep 2003 12:46:26 GMT, Richard Adams wrote:
> Zabel indicated it was a slight uphill finish which suited him. He has done well after exhausting
> climbing in the past.

Sure. And "after climbing" not only wrt the stage itself, but also the Pyrenees stages before that

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 05:11:32 GMT, Boyd Speerschneider wrote:
> Other than that, use a binaries newsgroup.

Yeah, no binaries allowed anywhere outside the alt.(binaries) hierarchy. Most servers filter them
out anyway in text groups. Try alt.binaries.pictures.sport.cycling if you must.

Does adelphia.net only provide access, no webspace for users?
 
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:38:07 +0200, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
> I'm not sure many people will understand what you're talking about. At least to me, it makes no
> sense at all.

Thanks, and the others too, for defending me, sort of.

You know, for a while I was tearing the hears out of my *****, I mean, I was tearing my hear out
because I was convinced to be a ***** for having a killfile. Bruce was the only one in it. But what
do you know, one shot and you're hooked; it soon grew larger and rbr became a better place for it.
So that is the first thing I can thank Bruce for. Thanks Bruce for letting me get in touch with my
inner *****!

Some weeks ago I rearranged my computer's hdd and lost some program settings, amongst others
foresaid killfilters. No biggie, just reconstruct them as I play along. So here I am reading Bruce
again (and unfuriatingly naive, or supertroll, Chen, and Steve "..........." @printemp.net) and I
guess he may have a valid point: I'm not contributing very much to rbr, at least not in the sense of
answering questions. I had several spells of helpdeskeritis in different newsgroups like *.php and
rec.sport.rowing. The reasons why I don't have these in rbr are obvious I think: a) I'm not an
expert in any field of cycling, b) I don't really race myself, which I guess means: I really don't,
c) rbr is very much US oriented which is fine but makes me an outsider, d) the crowd is not very
appreciative of simple honest answers, re: the agressive mr. drippy, e) There Is Really Nothing New
To Be Said, rbr is a social spin-off of cyclingnews.com now, f) in general, in my opinion,
newsgroups like rbr are more gatherings of like-minded people, or people which happen to have at
least one interest in common, than specialist Q&A forums. So I mostly read rbr for fun and when I do
chyme in it mostly is for fun too, yes. And thanks again to Bruce, for enabling me to share my
deeper feelings about you lot.

As for not being more supportive of van Moorsel, well, I think she's great but I'm not the fan you
are, Brucey.

Goodbye!
 
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:57:27 +0200, Robert Chung wrote:
> Or maybe both.

That's not fair, you have inside information.
 
on fri, 19 sep 2003 10:50:03 gmt, h squared wrote:
> joke, i'm not sure. i have pasted in his informative/interesting posts that are on my newsreader
> from the last couple of weeks.

you're too good heather.
 
"Bruce Johnston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I am going to side with Henry on this in my own way. I remember you don't even have the decency to
> answer polite questions about your own countryman [LZVM] in the past. In fact as long as I have
> been in this NG I cannot remember you ever saying anything nice about her, not even once. NL is a
> small country and I understand that for the most part they are very supportive of their stars. So
> your lack of grace is puzzling. I see a lot of Dutch tourists here that travel and visit Yosemite
> and in passing chat they have always praised LZ in the highest regard. The NL is lucky to have
> her. The USA is huge and we have a few girls. Bruckner was considered our best but she has cancer.
> Girls like LZ are few and far between. At least you could be a little more genuine.
>

Maybe he's just not quite as interested in LVM as you are? This post makes you sound like another
pushy 'Merkun.

Besides, why do you need support/affirmation from Ewoud when you have this resource?

http://tinyurl.com/nxl1
 
Carl Sundquist schreef:

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> This post makes you sound like another pushy 'Merkun.
>

Reading his interaction with those Dutch guys certainly enhances that impression.

BTW languages-impairedness must be strong when even in that degree of 'fandom', there is no sign of
studying the object's language.

OTOH, approaching all passing Dutch folks anywhere in Dutch to inquire on Leontien would
appear creepy.
 
Bart wrote:
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> OTOH, approaching all passing Dutch folks anywhere in Dutch to inquire on Leontien would
> appear creepy.

So you're saying Bruce is up to the task?
 
h squared wrote:
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i should have added that i'm sorry that you feel badly enough about a past post to still be thinking
about it now. i hate when that happens to me.

h
 
Robert Chung schreef:

> Bart wrote:
> >
> > OTOH, approaching all passing Dutch folks anywhere in Dutch to inquire on Leontien would appear
> > creepy.
>
> So you're saying Bruce is up to the task?

It would suit his degree of 'fandom', definitely. I was merely expressing my surprise over the
burdens towards other languages.
 
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> on fri, 19 sep 2003 10:50:03 gmt, h squared wrote:
>> joke, i'm not sure. i have pasted in his informative/interesting posts that are on my newsreader
>> from the last couple of weeks.
>
> you're too good heather.

stop joking around before you **** someone off again

NS
 
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> you're too good heather.

Yeah. And that's too bad.
 
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