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Jean

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I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64 bars. I find that the slope on
the top part of the Cinelli's makes it difficult for me to maintain a comfy hand position when
riding "on the hoods". What I specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks
nearly parallel to the lower part of the hooks.

The LBS doesn't have anything in stock that appears to meet my needs. But some online stores carry a
Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier and cheaper version of the 215) that looks like it would
come close to fitting my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the hooks
nearly parallel to the bottom part?

Thanks,

Jean
 
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Dianne_1234

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:44:19 -0500, "Jean" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64 bars. I find that the slope on
>the top part of the Cinelli's makes it difficult for me to maintain a comfy hand position when
>riding "on the hoods". What I specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks
>nearly parallel to the lower part of the hooks.
>
>The LBS doesn't have anything in stock that appears to meet my needs. But some online stores carry
>a Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier and cheaper version of the 215) that looks like it
>would come close to fitting my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the
>hooks nearly parallel to the bottom part?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jean

From http://www.bontrager.com/bars/detail.asp?id=36&pt=2

"Flat-Top version has shallow drop and level transition to brake lever hoods that raises rider
position."

The ones I've seen appear to have exactly what you're after: parallel tops and drops.

I think these might be those bars in side view: http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/road/2300.jsp
 
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"Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64 bars. I find that the slope
> on the top part of the Cinelli's makes it difficult for me to maintain a comfy hand position when
> riding "on the hoods". What
I
> specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks nearly parallel to the lower
> part of the hooks.
>
> The LBS doesn't have anything in stock that appears to meet my needs. But some online stores carry
> a Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier and cheaper version of the 215) that looks like it
> would come close to fitting my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the
> hooks nearly parallel to the bottom part?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jean
>

Suggest you look at the Ritchey Pro. I use this bar on both my road bikes and find that the more
acute bend at the end of the tops equates to much more comfort when riding on them, compared to bars
with a wider curve at the end of the tops. I replaced the Deda 285 on one of my bikes with this bar
after putting it on my other (the newer one). Comparing the two, as I just did since I still have
the Deda bar lying around, they both have exactly the same relationship between the upper and lower
parts of the drop - nearly parallel. HTH

Cal
 
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Arthur Harris

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"Jean" wrote:
> I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64 bars. I find that the slope
> on the top part of the Cinelli's makes it difficult for me to maintain a comfy hand position when
> riding "on the hoods".

You might try moving the brake levers a tad lower and tilting the the bars up a bit (drops slanted
slightly downward). I've found that gives a smoother transition from the bars to the hood using the
Cinelli 64 and Dura Ace STI levers.

Art Harris
 
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Jean

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"WTF,O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| "Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... snip
| >What I specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks nearly parallel to
| >the lower part of the hooks.
| >
... snip
| > some online stores carry a Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier
and
| > cheaper version of the 215) that looks like it would come close to
fitting
| > my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the hooks nearly parallel to
| > the bottom part?
| >
| > Jean
| >
|
| Suggest you look at the Ritchey Pro. I use this bar on both my road
bikes
| and find that the more acute bend at the end of the tops equates to much more comfort when riding
| on them, compared to bars with a wider curve at
the
| end of the tops. I replaced the Deda 285 on one of my bikes with this
bar
| after putting it on my other (the newer one). Comparing the two, as I
just
| did since I still have the Deda bar lying around, they both have exactly
the
| same relationship between the upper and lower parts of the drop - nearly parallel. HTH
|
| Cal
|
|

Thanks for the info. Which Ritcheys Pro bar are you referring to - the "Pro Road Bar" or the
"Pro BioMax"?

Jean
 
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Jean

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"dianne_1234" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:44:19 -0500, "Jean" <[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
|>What I
| >specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks nearly parallel to the
| >lower part of the hooks.
| >
... snip
| >some online stores carry a Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier and cheaper version of the
| >215) that looks like it would come close to
fitting
| >my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the hooks nearly parallel to
| >the bottom part?
| >
| >Jean
|
| From http://www.bontrager.com/bars/detail.asp?id=36&pt=2
|
| "Flat-Top version has shallow drop and level transition to brake lever hoods that raises rider
| position."
|
| The ones I've seen appear to have exactly what you're after: parallel tops and drops.
|
| I think these might be those bars in side view: http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/road/2300.jsp
|

Thanks for the info. I tried to go to the Trek site to look at the bars, but their server must be
down. From the specs at the Bontrager site, it appears that the "flat top" models have a rather long
reach of 98mm (versus a more typical 80 to 82mm reach). I suppose that this longer reach is meant to
compensate for the hoods being higher, but it seems like a stretch for me...

Jean
 
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Qui Si Parla Ca

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jean-<< I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64 bars. >><BR><BR>

Look at Ritchey WCS traditional bend. I have these, switched from Cinelli 64/42 and find they feel
almost identical.

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"
 
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Chris Dorn

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If your looking for some biomax pro bars I have some i just took off of my bike in good condition,
Ill make you a good deal. Chris
 
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"Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "WTF,O" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> |
> | "Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... snip
> | >What I specifically want is a handlebar that has the upper part of the hooks nearly parallel to
> | >the lower part of the hooks.
> | >
> ... snip
> | > some online stores carry a Deda 285 (which I think is just a heavier
> and
> | > cheaper version of the 215) that looks like it would come close to
> fitting
> | > my needs. Does anyone have this bar, and if so, is the top part of the hooks nearly parallel
> | > to the bottom part?
> | >
> | > Jean
> | >
> |
> | Suggest you look at the Ritchey Pro. I use this bar on both my road
> bikes
> | and find that the more acute bend at the end of the tops equates to much more comfort when
> | riding on them, compared to bars with a wider curve at
> the
> | end of the tops. I replaced the Deda 285 on one of my bikes with this
> bar
> | after putting it on my other (the newer one). Comparing the two, as I
> just
> | did since I still have the Deda bar lying around, they both have exactly
> the
> | same relationship between the upper and lower parts of the drop - nearly parallel. HTH
> |
> | Cal
> |
> |
>
>
> Thanks for the info. Which Ritcheys Pro bar are you referring to - the
"Pro
> Road Bar" or the "Pro BioMax"?
>
> Jean
>

The Pro Road bar.

-Cal
 
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Mann

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The Ritchey website says those bars weigh 210 grams. That's kinda light. How often (miles) should
they be replaced to avoid unexpected failure?

Mann

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
m19.aol.com...
> jean-<< I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia
64
> bars. >><BR><BR>
>
> Look at Ritchey WCS traditional bend. I have these, switched from Cinelli
64/42
> and find they feel almost identical.
>
> Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
> (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"
 
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Jean

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"Arthur Harris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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|
| "Jean" wrote:
| > I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64
bars.
| > I find that the slope on the top part of the Cinelli's makes it
difficult
| > for me to maintain a comfy hand position when riding "on the hoods".
|
| You might try moving the brake levers a tad lower and tilting the the
bars
| up a bit (drops slanted slightly downward). I've found that gives a
smoother
| transition from the bars to the hood using the Cinelli 64 and Dura Ace
STI
| levers.
|
| Art Harris
|
|

Art, I've already done that and it helped somewhat. Basically I have the downward angle on the upper
part equal to the upward angle on the bottom part. If I tilt the bars upward anymore, I can't reach
the brake levers from the drops unless I scrunch my hand in a very very uncomfortable way in the
curved part of the hooks. {I've even tried fastening a platform (a shaped piece of cut PVC pipe) to
the upper part in order to lessen the slope. This kinda worked, but it looked like **** and I never
could get the platform to transition well at the rubber hood.} I think the "dive" on the top section
of the Cinelli's is just too much for me.

Jean
 
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Jean

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"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| jean-<< I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia
64
| bars. >><BR><BR>
|
| Look at Ritchey WCS traditional bend. I have these, switched from Cinelli
64/42
| and find they feel almost identical.
|
| Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
| (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Identical is not what I want ...I want bars that don't slope down as much in the "reach section"
(ie, the portion leading to the hoods).

Jean
 
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Bfd

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"Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
> m19.aol.com...
> | jean-<< I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro d'Italia
> 64
> | bars. >><BR><BR>
> |
> | Look at Ritchey WCS traditional bend. I have these, switched from Cinelli
> 64/42
> | and find they feel almost identical.
> |
> | Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
> | (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"
>
> Identical is not what I want ...I want bars that don't slope down as much in the "reach section"
> (ie, the portion leading to the hoods).
>
Take alook at either of these:

Nitto model 177: http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16111.html

Nitto model 176: http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16081.html
 
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Jean

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"bfd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| "Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
| > "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
| > m19.aol.com...
| > | jean-<< I'm looking for some new bars to replace my Cinelli Giro
d'Italia
| > 64
| > | bars. >><BR><BR>
| > |
| > | Look at Ritchey WCS traditional bend. I have these, switched from
Cinelli
| > 64/42
| > | and find they feel almost identical.
| > |
| > | Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
| > | (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"
| >
| > Identical is not what I want ...I want bars that don't slope down as
much
| > in the "reach section" (ie, the portion leading to the hoods).
| >
| Take alook at either of these:
|
| Nitto model 177: http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16111.html
|
| Nitto model 176: http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16081.html

The last one you mentioned looks promising - thanks for posting that.

Jean
 
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David Damerell

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Jean <[email protected]> wrote:
>"bfd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>"Jean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>Identical is not what I want ...I want bars that don't slope down as>much in the "reach section"
>>>(ie, the portion leading to the hoods).
>>Take alook at either of these: Nitto model 177:
>>http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16111.html Nitto model 176:
>>http://rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/16081.html
>The last one you mentioned looks promising - thanks for posting that.

The Nitto 176 "Dream" does not have an exceptionally shallow ramp; the 177 "Noodle" does. I use
Noodle bars (having discovered I like a shallow ramp when my stem fastener bolt loosened :) and
find them very pleasant.
--
David Damerell <[email protected]> flcl?
 
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A Muzi

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> "Robert Canon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>Ditto on the 177 "Noodle" bar.

rosco wrote:
> Is there anything like the 177, but with cable grooves? For whatever reason, Nitto doesn't seem to
> believe in the grooves.

Which, knowing Nitto, makes perfect sense. Does it matter to you? It isn't a big deal to tape the
cables down with packing tape before you wrap the bars.

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
 
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