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Ignoramus23984

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I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
"shop crane", but that is a hassle.

I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
around $6, but I do not want to get injured.

So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
the dolly.

Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
wanted to check with knowledgeable people.

Any thoughts?

i
 
Ignoramus23984 wrote:
> I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.


Definitely the kind of thing to get some kinda of assistance for. See
if you can get/build a cart the same height as your tailgate so you can
slide them right onto it and not have to lift them at all. That would
be ideal. Failing that maybe use a ramp and a rope to slide them down
to the ground. Back injuries take a long time to heal, and are a
serious business, it's not "wussy" to take care of yourself, it's smart.
 
Buy a 12-pack and invite some younger backs over.


"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> i
>
 
"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> i
>

Handy hydraulic cart
http://tinyurl.com/ls5l5
 
Ignoramus23984 wrote:

> I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> i
>
When my Dad hurt his back carrying a Ford flat-head V-8 around his shop
it took him long enough to heal that he'd learned bodywork. Then he
started a custom rod shop.

So unless you're thinking of a career change you should maybe get help.

Wussy is not doing what you can easily do. _Really_ wussy is hurting
yourself because you're afraid of looking wussy, if that makes sense.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
 
On 2 Mar 2006 13:45:53 -0800, Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ignoramus23984 wrote:
>> I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
>> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
>> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
>> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
>> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>>
>> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
>> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
>> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
>> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>>
>> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
>> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
>> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
>> the dolly.
>>
>> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
>> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
>
> Definitely the kind of thing to get some kinda of assistance for. See
> if you can get/build a cart the same height as your tailgate so you can
> slide them right onto it and not have to lift them at all. That would
> be ideal. Failing that maybe use a ramp and a rope to slide them down
> to the ground. Back injuries take a long time to heal, and are a
> serious business, it's not "wussy" to take care of yourself, it's smart.
>

Thanks Justin. Good thoughts, I think that I will find/build something
for safety.

i
 
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:56:13 -0800, Tim Wescott <[email protected]> wrote:
> When my Dad hurt his back carrying a Ford flat-head V-8 around his shop
> it took him long enough to heal that he'd learned bodywork. Then he
> started a custom rod shop.
>
> So unless you're thinking of a career change you should maybe get help.
>
> Wussy is not doing what you can easily do. _Really_ wussy is hurting
> yourself because you're afraid of looking wussy, if that makes sense.
>

Thanks Tim. You are right. Nothing worse than being injured.

You can see a similar device at

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7591573234

The seller is wrong, it weighs 152 lbs, not 180, but the pictures are
telling.

Jim's suggestion of a lift cart is a good one, but I do not have it at
this time.

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:23:52 -0500, Lee Michaels <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> "Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
>>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
>> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
>> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
>> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
>> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>>
>> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
>> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
>> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
>> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>>
>> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
>> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
>> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
>> the dolly.
>>
>> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
>> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
> Two thoughts.
>
> Rent (or buy) an engine hoist.
>
> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do

I have exactly that (I call it a shop crane, perhaps incorrectly), but
it is a hassle to use in this instance. Think about how many movements
need to be done, truck started and moved, etc.

> You can also buy, build or rent some ramps for pickups fairly reasonable.
> These are good to have anyway. You can always use a come along to raise or
> lower a load up and down the ramps.
>
> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
>
> This is a picture of a come along
>
> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
>
> All of these items can be rented. There are also metal tips that you can
> buy to fit two by lumber tomake these ramps.
>

Thanks. Ramps could be a good alternative actually, and here with 152
lbs I could get away with some simple stuff.

i
 
"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
Two thoughts.

Rent (or buy) an engine hoist.

http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do

You can also buy, build or rent some ramps for pickups fairly reasonable.
These are good to have anyway. You can always use a come along to raise or
lower a load up and down the ramps.

http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do

This is a picture of a come along

http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do

All of these items can be rented. There are also metal tips that you can
buy to fit two by lumber tomake these ramps.
 
Best idea yet!!!!

"Tom Gardner" <tom(nospam)@ohiobrush.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Buy a 12-pack and invite some younger backs over.
>
>
> "Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:%[email protected]...
> >I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> > approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> > seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> > where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> > "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
> >
> > I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> > unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> > am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> > around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
> >
> > So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> > little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> > so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> > the dolly.
> >
> > Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> > wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > i
> >
>
>
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Tim, any relation to Wescott Auto, as in fiberglass bodies?
> Bill.
>
Yes -- that's my dad's company (with lots of help from my brother). I
used to work there when I was in high school and college. Along with a
lot of scut work I did quite a bit of mold work, both the fiberglass and
metal reinforcing for the molds.

The body that we used as a pattern for the '39 convertible was in such
sad shape that we just took temporary molds off the panels then
hand-built a plug, correcting problems as we went -- the floor pattern
came from a '39 or '40 woody (which was just a good floor and a few
scraps of cowl sheetmetal when I knew it). I helped to hand-assemble
the plug for the body (with a few fierce 'technical discussions' with my
dad about the best approach to take).

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
 
"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:23:52 -0500, Lee Michaels
> <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:%[email protected]...
>>>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
>>> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
>>> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
>>> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
>>> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>>>
>>> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
>>> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
>>> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
>>> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>>>
>>> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
>>> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
>>> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
>>> the dolly.
>>>
>>> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
>>> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>> Two thoughts.
>>
>> Rent (or buy) an engine hoist.
>>
>> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
>
> I have exactly that (I call it a shop crane, perhaps incorrectly), but
> it is a hassle to use in this instance. Think about how many movements
> need to be done, truck started and moved, etc.
>
>> You can also buy, build or rent some ramps for pickups fairly reasonable.
>> These are good to have anyway. You can always use a come along to raise
>> or
>> lower a load up and down the ramps.
>>
>> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
>>
>> This is a picture of a come along
>>
>> http://da.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do
>>
>> All of these items can be rented. There are also metal tips that you can
>> buy to fit two by lumber tomake these ramps.
>>
>
> Thanks. Ramps could be a good alternative actually, and here with 152
> lbs I could get away with some simple stuff.
>

Here is a picture of the kits I was talking about. These are actually
available from many sources. I am not doing that good coming up with
anything on the web though. This all I could come up with on short notice.

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/truckrampkit.html


By the way, what are you going to use those big power supplies for?
 
So you are driving to CT?
"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:56:13 -0800, Tim Wescott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> When my Dad hurt his back carrying a Ford flat-head V-8 around his shop
>> it took him long enough to heal that he'd learned bodywork. Then he
>> started a custom rod shop.
>>
>> So unless you're thinking of a career change you should maybe get help.
>>
>> Wussy is not doing what you can easily do. _Really_ wussy is hurting
>> yourself because you're afraid of looking wussy, if that makes sense.
>>
>
> Thanks Tim. You are right. Nothing worse than being injured.
>
> You can see a similar device at
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7591573234
>
> The seller is wrong, it weighs 152 lbs, not 180, but the pictures are
> telling.
>
> Jim's suggestion of a lift cart is a good one, but I do not have it at
> this time.
>
> i
>
> i
> i
>
 
"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:56:13 -0800, Tim Wescott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> When my Dad hurt his back carrying a Ford flat-head V-8 around his shop
>> it took him long enough to heal that he'd learned bodywork. Then he
>> started a custom rod shop.
>>
>> So unless you're thinking of a career change you should maybe get help.
>>
>> Wussy is not doing what you can easily do. _Really_ wussy is hurting
>> yourself because you're afraid of looking wussy, if that makes sense.
>>
>
> Thanks Tim. You are right. Nothing worse than being injured.
>
> You can see a similar device at
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7591573234
>
> The seller is wrong, it weighs 152 lbs, not 180, but the pictures are
> telling.
>
> Jim's suggestion of a lift cart is a good one, but I do not have it at
> this time.
>

Hey, if you're in the Chi 'burbs and want to borrow mine...
 
Ignoramus23984 wrote:

>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
>approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
>seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
>where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
>"shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
>I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
>unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
>am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
>around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
>
I put a 90 Lb vise on and off my mill without much trouble, but that is
about
my limit. No way would I try to lift anything weighing 150 Lbs, with
the possible exception of lifting one end at a time to slip a sling,
board or
whatever under it. (I have lifted a lathe apron that was close to that
weight just once, and it was a total bear.)

If you screw up your back, it will NEVER completely heal. Take that from
one who has done it! I made it to about 52 without wrecking my back,
but then
I had 3 incidents in 2 weeks that collectively did some real damage.
There are
now certain movements, generally reaching out in front of me
a little bit and lifting something heavy, that I can't do anymore
without risk
of a major breakdown in my back. If you don't have a shop crane of some
sort,
with all the stuff you are doing, you really need to get one.

I have enough stuff around here that I can't lift myself, so I don't
feel the
crane was wasted.

>So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
>little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
>so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
>the dolly.
>
>
I do have a scheme where you put a ladder from the vehicle to the
ground, shim
the object up and onto a board on the ladder, and then slide it down.
It has
always worked just swell until I tried to do it to a 375 Lb surface
plate still in
the crate. I was trying to tug the crate over to the ladder when there
was a
"bad noise" from my back. That was that crowning 3rd incident that tore up
my back. I wasn't actually even trying to lift it, but I guess I was
trying to
reduce the weight enough to slide the thing. Now that I have the crane,
I won't
be doing that sort of insanity any more.

Jon
 
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:42:19 GMT, Ignoramus23984
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
>approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
>seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
>where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
>"shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
>I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
>unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
>am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
>around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
>So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
>little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
>so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
>the dolly.
>
>Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
>wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>i
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"Ignoramus23984" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
>I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> i

when i bought my large compressor, the delivery guy got it off the semi onto
the ground just by carefully balancing it on the edge, and lowering it
gently. use leverage, the overall weight won't be that much until you get
close to the ground. a couple of ramps should do it. at that point, a simple
hand cart would move them pretty easily. you can get an 800 lb handcart at
HF for under $30 when they're on sale.
 
Ignoramus23984 wrote:
>
> I am soon going to pick up six devices, each is a rectangular shape
> approximately 2x1.5x1 foot. Each weighs 150 lbs. I hope that the
> seller will load them into my pickup with a forklift, but unloading is
> where I have my doubts. I could unload them with a chain hoist or a
> "shop crane", but that is a hassle.
>
> I do generally deadlift 170 lbs, but I am a little afraid that
> unloading is a different kind of movement and is more injury prone. I
> am not really all that worried to damage the devices, each cost me
> around $6, but I do not want to get injured.
>
> So, I am looking for some simple unloading ideas that could make it a
> little safer. Such as, perhaps, to put a "step" close to the tailgate
> so that I could first lower the thing on that step, and only then to
> the dolly.
>
> Maybe I am just a wuss and unloading should be no problem, but I
> wanted to check with knowledgeable people.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> i

Perhaps get yourself one of those 500# cap hitch mount lift gates that
Harbor Freight has for a couple hundred $. I've heard reports that they
work well and have seen them myself in the store and they looked pretty
decent. The only reason I didn't get one myself is I already have a
forklift for unloading.

Pete C.
 
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