Health Check ...

Discussion in 'UK and Europe' started by Elyob, Jul 29, 2003.

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  1. Elyob

    Elyob Guest

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a slightly
    increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will need to speak
    to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good order
    .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake, methinks.
    Anyway .. point of the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put it as
    aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news in a couple of years when I
    take my next test ... :)

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>)

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating crap food as well ...

    Nick
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Guest

    "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    > slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    > need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >
    > Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good
    > order .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake,
    > methinks. Anyway .. point
    of
    > the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put
    it
    > as aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news
    in
    > a couple of years when I take my next test ... :)
    >
    > (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    > night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>)
    >
    > Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating crap food as
    > well ...
    >
    > Nick
    >
    >
    Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow (probably ;-)
     
  3. Tenex

    Tenex Guest

    elyob wrote:
    > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    > slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    > need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    You've doubtless read of the Atkin's diet - but reading Atkin's basis for the diet he proposes is
    quite interesting. Well worth a read if you can lay your hands on it (BTW, strip out the gung ho US
    approach to all things to make it digestible - oops no pun intended). An interesting result of the
    diet is increased HDL and reduced cholesterol levels over all. Consult your GP before adopting any
    particular diet (they all seem relaxed about this for the short and medium but not longer term). Not
    using it myself .... yet. ;-)
     
  4. Paul Kelly

    Paul Kelly Guest

    In news:[email protected], elyob <[email protected]> typed:
    > (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    > night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>)
    >
    > Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating crap food as
    > well ...

    My cholesterol doctor told me to go home and drink a couple of glasses of red wine every evening.
    Now that is what I call a great doctor. I follow that instruction to the letter. He also told me to
    cut out the beer, so I suppose I got it about half right.

    pk
     
  5. Simon Mason

    Simon Mason Guest

    "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    > slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    > need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >
    > Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good
    > order .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake,
    > methinks. Anyway .. point
    of
    > the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put
    it
    > as aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news
    in
    > a couple of years when I take my next test ... :)

    My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol in
    the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.

    --
    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W http://www.simonmason.karoo.net
     
  6. Elyob

    Elyob Guest

    "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > >
    > Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow
    > (probably ;-)
    >
    >

    Bah! I'm 'only' 31 ... ;)
     
  7. Elyob

    Elyob Guest

    "Paul Kelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In news:[email protected], elyob <[email protected]> typed:
    > > (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    > > night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>)
    > >
    > > Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating crap food as
    > > well ...
    >
    >
    > My cholesterol doctor told me to go home and drink a couple of glasses of red wine every evening.
    > Now that is what I call a great doctor. I follow that instruction to the letter. He also told me
    > to cut out the beer, so I suppose I got it about half right.
    >

    Shopping list .... Red Wine :)
     
  8. Elyob

    Elyob Guest

    "Simon Mason" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >

    > My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    > the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol
    > in the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.
    >

    Yeah, He reckons I'm in a really low risk of anything bad happening and it's only 6.6 ... Will
    consider it more when choosing what I'm eating, but it ain't gonna kill my 'social life' ... unless
    it gets me first ... :)
     
  9. Elyob

    Elyob Guest

    "Tenex" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > elyob wrote:
    > > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    > > slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    > > need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >
    > You've doubtless read of the Atkin's diet - but reading Atkin's basis for the diet he proposes is
    > quite interesting. Well worth a read if you can
    lay
    > your hands on it (BTW, strip out the gung ho US approach to all things to make it digestible -
    > oops no pun intended). An interesting result of the diet is increased HDL and reduced cholesterol
    > levels over all. Consult
    your
    > GP before adopting any particular diet (they all seem relaxed about this
    for
    > the short and medium but not longer term). Not using it myself .... yet. ;-)
    >

    Just had pate & mayo sandwiches, hold the salad .. (no salad in my fridge) .. not a great start ..
    probably have a huge take-away later ...
     
  10. Succorso

    Succorso Guest

    elyob wrote:
    > "Simon Mason" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >> My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    >> the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol
    >> in the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.
    >>
    >
    >
    > Yeah, He reckons I'm in a really low risk of anything bad happening and it's only 6.6 ... Will
    > consider it more when choosing what I'm eating, but it ain't gonna kill my 'social life' ...
    > unless it gets me first ... :)
    >
    >
    If there's a history of haemorrhagic stroke in your family, then a slightly above normal cholesterol
    may be helpful in reinforcing arterial walls. That's what my doc said about my 5.6 level; my Dad
    died of such a stroke.

    --
    Succorso
     
  11. Dave

    Dave Guest

    "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:p[email protected]...
    >
    > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > >
    > > Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow
    > > (probably ;-)
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Bah! I'm 'only' 31 ... ;)
    >
    >

    Heh....it's a loooong process. Actually starts about 21 in the male of the species and 35 in the
    female, slowly at first but then..... ;-)
     
  12. In message <[email protected]>, elyob <[email protected]> writes
    >Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    >slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    >need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >
    >Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good order
    >.. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake, methinks.
    >Anyway .. point of the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put it as
    >aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news in a couple of years when I
    >take my next test ... :)
    >
    >(The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    >night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>)
    >
    >Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating crap food
    >as well ...
    >
    >Nick
    >
    >

    Cutting back on the alcohol will help you lose weight. Alcoholic drinks have high calorie levels.
    --
    Michael MacClancy
     
  13. Frank X

    Frank X Guest

    "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    > slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    > need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >
    Things that bring cholesterol down.

    Almost total avoidance of saturated fat (Suicide risk goes up) Simvastatin (or any good
    statin). Benecol.

    Things that make no difference porridge, red wine, beer.

    The truth is at 6.6 you should probably be taking a statin now.
     
  14. Paul Kelly

    Paul Kelly Guest

    "Frank X" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my
    bro
    > > comes back with a slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back
    in
    > > today, and I phone up "The doctor will need to speak to you" ...
    Aarrgghh,
    > > is that a twinge?
    > >
    > Things that bring cholesterol down.

    Best solution is to change your genes!

    pk
     
  15. Tenex

    Tenex Guest

    Frank X wrote:
    > "elyob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    >> slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    >> need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?
    >>
    > Things that bring cholesterol down.
    >
    > Almost total avoidance of saturated fat (Suicide risk goes up) Simvastatin (or any good statin).
    > Benecol.
    >
    > Things that make no difference porridge, red wine, beer.
    >
    > The truth is at 6.6 you should probably be taking a statin now.

    Given his age and diet, 6.6 is easily reducible via exercise and diet. There's no general "you
    should be taking statins now" because of all the co-factors that are unique to the individual.

    I have a friend who measured 10.3 and through all the ECGs etc had no diminution in heart function
    or family history. Quantity dieting didn't happen (but his level fell to 8 ish) so he eventually
    took the statins after a decade of being nagged by his doctor. He got really fit in the period and
    the ECG showed it but they still pushed the statins.

    There was a big news thing on statins 2-3 months ago. Rather like the the idea that taking 1/2 an
    aspirin a day is good for almost everyone, statins are now so well established that specialists
    reckon that, along the aspirin principle, everyone should take them and would benefit.

    Bringing the much contested Atkins diet in may be relevant here as it boosts HDL levels and reduces
    overall cholesterol levels. Lots of bacon and eggs and lower cholesterol, there's a thought. ;-)
     
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