Health scientist Ranjita Misra warns about childhood obesity, diabetes

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  1. Health Scientist Ranjita Misra Warns About Childhood
    Obesity, Diabetes

    By Francis C. Assisi Indolink Saturday, March 13, 2004

    Boston, March 13 - Back in November 2002 when Ranjita Misra
    reported her survey of the health status and behavior among
    Indian Americans, the surprising conclusion was that 50% of
    her sample 0f 369 Indian Americans 'did not meet the Food
    Guide Pyramid's recommendations for fruits, vegetables, and
    milk consumption.' As a result, she recommended increased
    attention for education, use of preventive services, and
    health promoting behaviors among Asian Indians.

    Then in June 2003 Misra reported that 'for diabetics, race
    and ethnicity can mean the difference between life and
    death.' Her research, published in the ''Journal of the
    National Black Nurses Association'' on Type-II or adult-
    onset diabetes, has shown the disease is the fourth-leading
    cause of death in America. For African- Americans, the
    incidence of the disease is 50 to 100 percent higher than
    for Caucasians.

    Her other finding reflect the state of (ill)health among
    Indian Americans. Her key finding: whereas the rate of
    diabetes in Caucasian Americans – described as ''epidemic''
    at six percent – it is approximately 18 percent in Indian
    Americans. Her preliminary results in Houston confirm that
    Indian Americans have high rates of diabetes and metabolic
    syndrome (the clustering of certain lipid and glucose
    abnormalities).

    ''I want people to understand that this is a very serious
    disease. If you have it, you will develop serious
    complications,'' Misra stated. ''it is most important they
    maintain good blood sugar and blood pressure control.''

    Misra hopes her studies will lead to a better understanding
    of the disease and better outreach and health education in
    minority populations and eventually result in reducing the
    number of early deaths from diabetes.

    Misra should know. She is a Texas A&M University professor
    who specializes in Preventive Health Services and Health
    Disparities for Chronic Diseases among minorities and
    teaches courses in ethnicity and health at the College
    Station campus. Misra earned a B.S. in Food & Nutrition,
    from Orissa University of Agriculture & Technology, followed
    by an M.S. Food & Nutrition, from Banaras Hindu University.
    Misra obtained a Ph.D in Urban Health Services from Old
    Dominion University.

    The results of Misra's most recent research published March
    12, is equally striking: ''our children are in trouble and
    its time for our society to do something about it,'' she
    warns. Childhood obesity leads to adult diabetes, she
    concludes. Which is why she asks that parents -- especially
    minority parents -- now need to be concerned about Type 2 or
    adult-onset diabetes.

    "Childhood obesity and diabetes is a very new area. We did
    not have this problem a few years ago. Consequently,
    patients, health providers and family members are at a loss
    as to how to deal with the situation," Misra notes. Both
    diabetes and obesity among children has reached epidemic
    proportions as the fast-food restaurants are geared mostly
    to children and families. However, in recent days, the fast-
    food industry has made headlines by modifying their menus to
    be healthier.

    One example of the problem she cites is from a colleague who
    reported the case of an obese five-year-old diagnosed with
    Type 2 diabetes, a disease that previously had a typical age
    of onset in the early 40s.

    "This child cannot understand diabetes or its
    consequences," she adds.

    The longer one has diabetes, the greater the physical damage
    it causes. Misra says diabetic patients are expected to be
    aware and educated about good nutrition, physical activity,
    knowledge of the disease and its complications and disease
    management mainly through regular blood tests and
    medications - all difficult things for a young child to
    comprehend or learn.

    Misra, who specializes in minority health disparities, has
    conducted extensive research on diabetes. In one of her
    recent publications in the "Journal of the National Black
    Nurses Association," on Type-II or adult-onset diabetes, she
    has shown that management of the disease is complex and
    difficult even for adults. The disease is the fifth-leading
    cause of death in America with a greater burden among the
    minority populations. For African- Americans and
    Latinos/Hispanics, the incidence of the disease is 1.5 and
    1.6 times higher than non-Hispanic whites respectively.

    How has this happened in our society and how do parents
    deal with it?

    Misra says there are too many factors to name them all. They
    include parents with busy lifestyles who no longer have time
    to participate in outdoor activities with young children.
    Also busy parents have resorted to the option of relying too
    much on fast food as a source of regular meals for
    themselves and their families which in turn leads to many
    health problems. Added to these factors is the fact that
    children are not as safe playing outdoors as they once were,
    so they stay in more often and watch TV or play video games.

    There also is the perception that eating healthy is more
    expensive. For some lower-income families, eating burgers
    and fries from the dollar menu during a busy day pleases the
    whole family, but that can lead to problems.

    "For example, a large burger, fries and a soda can be as
    much as 1,500 to 1,800 calories in one meal when the daily
    calorie intake for an adult should be around 2,000," Misra
    points out.

    She adds that a good portion of those fast-food calories
    come from sugar or fat because these are the ingredients
    that make food "tastier" and more enticing to the palate. So
    she believes the food industry must bear some responsibility
    for portion sizes and fat and sugar content and she is
    pleased to see that some fast food chains have taken the
    initiative by providing healthy alternatives.

    Misra hopes that parents would first opt for healthier meals
    for themselves for their own sake but also as a way of
    setting an example to their children to demonstrate the
    virtues of eating healthy. After all children being children
    they cannot be expected to make "healthy choices" and it is
    incumbent upon the parents to make such choices for them.
    This can range from avoiding fast food altogether or making
    changes in their preferences such as opting for water or
    diet soda instead of the calorie ridden regular soda that
    children seem to love.

    Also Misra further elaborates that healthy foods are not
    necessarily expensive if one were to make intelligent
    choices and adjustments in their dietary preferences. When
    it comes to children, she also states that good habits can
    be imbedded in kids by giving them smaller portions, by
    cutting them in to smaller pieces or different shapes so as
    to make it more enjoyable and fun. Children who become
    diabetic also have to deal with peer pressure. They find
    diet choices confusing, and being different when it comes to
    picking out foods in the cafeteria can be an ordeal. "Young
    children are honest to the point of rudeness and being
    pointed out as different can be hurtful or damaging to their
    self-image," Misra adds.

    For diabetic children, Misra says this can result in high-
    risk behaviors. She says they will eat foods they should
    avoid just to be part of the group and adds that young
    children and teens tend to think of themselves as
    invincible.

    Health care providers must also get more involved, Misra
    says. They must work harder to educate parents - especially
    minority parents - on healthier diets and advise them on how
    to encourage their children to be more active. Type 2
    diabetes in children most often occurs during mid-puberty as
    changes in hormone levels during this period cause insulin
    resistance and decreased insulin action and parents need to
    be aware of this information. Low-income families may not be
    able to afford frequent trips to the doctor but, if they are
    aware of the problem, there is good information available to
    them through other sources such as the American Diabetes
    Association's Web site , school health programs, and local
    health departments.

    Misra believes parents, schools, health providers and the
    food industry must begin working together to decrease the
    number of children who are obese and in danger of
    becoming diabetic.

    "An overweight five-year-old with adult-onset diabetes is a
    warning we all should heed. Our children are in trouble and
    its time for our society to do something about it."

    More at:
    http://www.indolink.com/displayArticleS.php?id=031304073845

    Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti

    WARNING ABOUT KEVIN 'BEAVIS' MAXFIELD (MEDICAL FRAUD)

    Advisory

    Kevin Maxfield aka "Beavis" aka "Beav" who is a self-
    publicized patient of diabetes has committed serious
    crimes by dispensing medical advice to other patients on
    numerous occasions. He has published his contact
    information as follows:

    Kevin "Beavis" Maxfield 106 Churchill Drive Little Lever
    Bolton BL3 1PG UK

    "Beavis" <[email protected]> "Beavis"
    <[email protected]> "Beavis"
    <[email protected]>

    Picture:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/pictures/me.jpg

    Also, a picture of Britt, with the caption: "When she ain't
    cookin my meals she does find time to fly a heli!" http://h-
    omepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/pictures/britt.JPG

    Forwarded message: [ [ Subject: Beav is a liar. Beware of
    advice he gives you! [ Message-ID:
    <[email protected]> [ From: Dennis Fetters
    <[email protected]> [ Newsgroups:
    misc.health.diabetes [ NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.122.164.63 [
    Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:08:38 GMT [ [ Greetings news group
    participants, [
    [ Iam sending this news to all newsgroups that the person [
    Beav <[email protected]> participates in, [
    especially that involves medical advice. You need to be
    [ concerned taking any medical advice from him
    whatsoever. [ Why? [ [ Over the years this person has
    flamed me and others, told [ lies and did harm all in
    the name of fun. This person [ could just as easily give
    you improper medical advice and [ sit back and laugh for
    the fun of it. Beware of him, he [ may act nice and
    helpful but there is an evil side. [ [ Just to help
    prove what I'm saying, I have given evidence [ below of
    just one lie he was caught making. I'm posting [ this so
    that from now on you can measure anything he has [ to
    say with what his words are actually worth. Beav is a [
    liar. I have proven without a shadow of dough that Beav
    [ is a liar. Sure, it is a small lie this time, but what
    [ about all the ones before, or after? [ [ On
    02/04/2003, you posted on the rec.aviation.rotorcraft
    news group: [ > Beav wrote: [ > He's also over on the
    R/C heli group looking for ideas [ > on how to build > a
    big RC machine which he SAYS is [ > destined for
    military (unmanned) use. [ [ That was an out in out lie.
    I never said such a thing. He [ made it up and lied to
    everyone there. [ [ What I said is below: [ [ On
    01/30/2003, I posted on rec.models.rc.helicopter: [ >
    Dennis Fetters wrote: [ > Hello, [ > [ > We have lot's
    of experience building full size [ > helicopters, but
    little knowledge in the RC field and [ > what's
    available. [ > [ > I have been contracted to provide a
    customer with two [ > large (400 pounds empty) prototype
    helicopters to be [ > flown by remote control. It is a
    CCPM controlled [ > configuration. I need to find
    servo's that are large [ > enough to handle at least a 5
    pound resistance per [ > arm, with a 3" travel. [ > [ >
    The control rods go through the center of the drive [ >
    shaft and connect to the control gimble below the [ >
    transmission, where 3 arms are located for both cyclic [
    > and collective inputs for the CCPM configuration. The
    [ > best solution would be 3 linear servo's, if
    something [ > preexists. [ > [ > Rather than reinvent
    the wheel, I hope someone would [ > be kind enough to
    provide me information on where to [ > find servo's
    large enough to do the job, or if a [ > linear servo can
    be used. The response time of these [ > large
    helicopters are much less than that of an RC [ > model.
    [ > [ > Also, if someone of high experience in RC
    helicopters [ > is interested in providing some help
    with the flights, [ > we're located in the California LA
    area. [ > [ > Sincerely, [ > [ > Dennis [ [ No where in
    this or any post did I say "it is destined [ for
    military (unmanned) use". Beav lied about that. [
    [ Jknow some of you here will say, well, it was just a [
    little lie. Well, any lie is a lie, big or small, and [
    Beav lied and has done much worse. He told this lie to
    [ hurt and do as much damage as he could, and it's time
    for [ all who deal with him to know. He has proven his
    [ willingness to lie and harm people just for fun, so [
    anything he says could be a lie or to cause more damage
    [ for his entertainment. [ [ Beav is a liar. Beware of
    advice he gives you! [ Archived at:.com/groups?selm=3E4BECF9.80308%40sbcglobal.net&oe=UTF-
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  2. Beav

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  3. Guy

    Guy Guest

    In my opinion the raging concern about obesity is nothing
    but a money scheme. It has been a legit issue as long as I
    have been alive. It does not require all of the bull being
    passed around.. I must admit that the MU? offered the basic
    item. Eat a reasonable amount. Most of the research data I
    see is such a small sample it has no meaning.. I really do
    not understand why these long articles are posted. I rarely
    read them. I can see the headers, usus ally in caps and
    skip them. Guy

    On 13 Mar 2004 19:32:35 GMT, [email protected] (Dr. Jai
    Maharaj) wrote:

    >Health Scientist Ranjita Misra Warns About Childhood
    >Obesity, Diabetes
    >
    >By Francis C. Assisi Indolink Saturday, March 13, 2004
    >
    >Boston, March 13 - Back in November 2002 when Ranjita Misra
    >reported her survey of the health status and behavior among
    >Indian Americans, the surprising conclusion was that 50% of
    >her sample 0f 369 Indian Americans 'did not meet the Food
    >Guide Pyramid's recommendations for fruits, vegetables, and
    >milk consumption.' As a result, she recommended increased
    >attention for education, use of preventive services, and
    >health promoting behaviors among Asian Indians.
    >
    >Then in June 2003 Misra reported that 'for diabetics, race
    >and ethnicity can mean the difference between life and
    >death.' Her research, published in the ''Journal of the
    >National Black Nurses Association'' on Type-II or adult-
    >onset diabetes, has shown the disease is the fourth-leading
    >cause of death in America. For African- Americans, the
    >incidence of the disease is 50 to 100 percent higher than
    >for Caucasians.
    >
    >Her other finding reflect the state of (ill)health among
    >Indian Americans. Her key finding: whereas the rate of
    >diabetes in Caucasian Americans – described as ''epidemic''
    >at six percent – it is approximately 18 percent in Indian
    >Americans. Her preliminary results in Houston confirm that
    >Indian Americans have high rates of diabetes and metabolic
    >syndrome (the clustering of certain lipid and glucose
    >abnormalities).
    >
    >''I want people to understand that this is a very serious
    >disease. If you have it, you will develop serious
    >complications,'' Misra stated. ''it is most important they
    >maintain good blood sugar and blood pressure control.''
    >
    >Misra hopes her studies will lead to a better understanding
    >of the disease and better outreach and health education in
    >minority populations and eventually result in reducing the
    >number of early deaths from diabetes.
    >
    >Misra should know. She is a Texas A&M University professor
    >who specializes in Preventive Health Services and Health
    >Disparities for Chronic Diseases among minorities and
    >teaches courses in ethnicity and health at the College
    >Station campus. Misra earned a B.S. in Food & Nutrition,
    >from Orissa University of Agriculture & Technology,
    >followed by an M.S. Food & Nutrition, from Banaras Hindu
    >University. Misra obtained a Ph.D in Urban Health Services
    >from Old Dominion University.
    >
    >The results of Misra's most recent research published March
    >12, is equally striking: ''our children are in trouble and
    >its time for our society to do something about it,'' she
    >warns. Childhood obesity leads to adult diabetes, she
    >concludes. Which is why she asks that parents -- especially
    >minority parents -- now need to be concerned about Type 2
    >or adult-onset diabetes.
    >
    >"Childhood obesity and diabetes is a very new area. We did
    >not have this problem a few years ago. Consequently,
    >patients, health providers and family members are at a loss
    >as to how to deal with the situation," Misra notes. Both
    >diabetes and obesity among children has reached epidemic
    >proportions as the fast-food restaurants are geared mostly
    >to children and families. However, in recent days, the fast-
    >food industry has made headlines by modifying their menus
    >to be healthier.
    >
    >One example of the problem she cites is from a colleague
    >who reported the case of an obese five-year-old diagnosed
    >with Type 2 diabetes, a disease that previously had a
    >typical age of onset in the early 40s.
    >
    >"This child cannot understand diabetes or its
    >consequences," she adds.
    >
    >The longer one has diabetes, the greater the physical
    >damage it causes. Misra says diabetic patients are expected
    >to be aware and educated about good nutrition, physical
    >activity, knowledge of the disease and its complications
    >and disease management mainly through regular blood tests
    >and medications - all difficult things for a young child to
    >comprehend or learn.
    >
    >Misra, who specializes in minority health disparities, has
    >conducted extensive research on diabetes. In one of her
    >recent publications in the "Journal of the National Black
    >Nurses Association," on Type-II or adult-onset diabetes,
    >she has shown that management of the disease is complex and
    >difficult even for adults. The disease is the fifth-leading
    >cause of death in America with a greater burden among the
    >minority populations. For African- Americans and
    >Latinos/Hispanics, the incidence of the disease is 1.5 and
    >1.6 times higher than non-Hispanic whites respectively.
    >
    >How has this happened in our society and how do parents
    >deal with it?
    >
    >Misra says there are too many factors to name them all.
    >They include parents with busy lifestyles who no longer
    >have time to participate in outdoor activities with young
    >children. Also busy parents have resorted to the option of
    >relying too much on fast food as a source of regular meals
    >for themselves and their families which in turn leads to
    >many health problems. Added to these factors is the fact
    >that children are not as safe playing outdoors as they
    >once were, so they stay in more often and watch TV or play
    >video games.
    >
    >There also is the perception that eating healthy is more
    >expensive. For some lower-income families, eating burgers
    >and fries from the dollar menu during a busy day pleases
    >the whole family, but that can lead to problems.
    >
    >"For example, a large burger, fries and a soda can be as
    >much as 1,500 to 1,800 calories in one meal when the daily
    >calorie intake for an adult should be around 2,000," Misra
    >points out.
    >
    >She adds that a good portion of those fast-food calories
    >come from sugar or fat because these are the ingredients
    >that make food "tastier" and more enticing to the palate.
    >So she believes the food industry must bear some
    >responsibility for portion sizes and fat and sugar content
    >and she is pleased to see that some fast food chains have
    >taken the initiative by providing healthy alternatives.
    >
    >Misra hopes that parents would first opt for healthier
    >meals for themselves for their own sake but also as a way
    >of setting an example to their children to demonstrate the
    >virtues of eating healthy. After all children being
    >children they cannot be expected to make "healthy choices"
    >and it is incumbent upon the parents to make such choices
    >for them. This can range from avoiding fast food altogether
    >or making changes in their preferences such as opting for
    >water or diet soda instead of the calorie ridden regular
    >soda that children seem to love.
    >
    >Also Misra further elaborates that healthy foods are not
    >necessarily expensive if one were to make intelligent
    >choices and adjustments in their dietary preferences. When
    >it comes to children, she also states that good habits can
    >be imbedded in kids by giving them smaller portions, by
    >cutting them in to smaller pieces or different shapes so as
    >to make it more enjoyable and fun. Children who become
    >diabetic also have to deal with peer pressure. They find
    >diet choices confusing, and being different when it comes
    >to picking out foods in the cafeteria can be an ordeal.
    >"Young children are honest to the point of rudeness and
    >being pointed out as different can be hurtful or damaging
    >to their self-image," Misra adds.
    >
    >For diabetic children, Misra says this can result in high-
    >risk behaviors. She says they will eat foods they should
    >avoid just to be part of the group and adds that young
    >children and teens tend to think of themselves as
    >invincible.
    >
    >Health care providers must also get more involved, Misra
    >says. They must work harder to educate parents - especially
    >minority parents - on healthier diets and advise them on
    >how to encourage their children to be more active. Type 2
    >diabetes in children most often occurs during mid-puberty
    >as changes in hormone levels during this period cause
    >insulin resistance and decreased insulin action and parents
    >need to be aware of this information. Low-income families
    >may not be able to afford frequent trips to the doctor but,
    >if they are aware of the problem, there is good information
    >available to them through other sources such as the
    >American Diabetes Association's Web site , school health
    >programs, and local health departments.
    >
    >Misra believes parents, schools, health providers and the
    >food industry must begin working together to decrease the
    >number of children who are obese and in danger of becoming
    >diabetic.
    >
    >"An overweight five-year-old with adult-onset diabetes is a
    >warning we all should heed. Our children are in trouble and
    >its time for our society to do something about it."
    >
    >More at: http://www.indolink.com/displayArticleS.php?id=03-
    >1304073845
    >
    >Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti
    >
    >WARNING ABOUT KEVIN 'BEAVIS' MAXFIELD (MEDICAL FRAUD)
    >
    >Advisory
    >
    >Kevin Maxfield aka "Beavis" aka "Beav" who is a self-
    >publicized patient of diabetes has committed serious
    >crimes by dispensing medical advice to other patients on
    >numerous occasions. He has published his contact
    >information as follows:
    >
    >Kevin "Beavis" Maxfield 106 Churchill Drive Little Lever
    >Bolton BL3 1PG UK
    >
    >"Beavis" <[email protected]> "Beavis"
    ><[email protected]> "Beavis"
    ><[email protected]>
    >
    >Picture: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/pictu-
    >res/me.jpg
    >
    >Also, a picture of Britt, with the caption: "When she ain't
    >cookin my meals she does find time to fly a heli!" http://-
    >homepage.ntlworld.com/kevin.maxfield/pictures/britt.JPG
    >
    >Forwarded message: [ [ Subject: Beav is a liar. Beware of
    >advice he gives you! [ Message-ID:
    ><[email protected]> [ From: Dennis Fetters
    ><[email protected]> [ Newsgroups:
    >misc.health.diabetes [ NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.122.164.63 [
    >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:08:38 GMT [ [ Greetings news
    >group participants, [
    > [ Iam sending this news to all newsgroups that the person
    > [ Beav <[email protected]> participates in,
    > [ especially that involves medical advice. You need to
    > be [ concerned taking any medical advice from him
    > whatsoever. [ Why? [ [ Over the years this person has
    > flamed me and others, told [ lies and did harm all in
    > the name of fun. This person [ could just as easily
    > give you improper medical advice and [ sit back and
    > laugh for the fun of it. Beware of him, he [ may act
    > nice and helpful but there is an evil side. [ [ Just to
    > help prove what I'm saying, I have given evidence [
    > below of just one lie he was caught making. I'm posting
    > [ this so that from now on you can measure anything he
    > has [ to say with what his words are actually worth.
    > Beav is a [ liar. I have proven without a shadow of
    > dough that Beav [ is a liar. Sure, it is a small lie
    > this time, but what [ about all the ones before, or
    > after? [ [ On 02/04/2003, you posted on the
    > rec.aviation.rotorcraft news group: [ > Beav wrote: [ >
    > He's also over on the R/C heli group looking for ideas
    > [ > on how to build > a big RC machine which he SAYS is
    > [ > destined for military (unmanned) use. [ [ That was
    > an out in out lie. I never said such a thing. He [ made
    > it up and lied to everyone there. [ [ What I said is
    > below: [ [ On 01/30/2003, I posted on
    > rec.models.rc.helicopter: [ > Dennis Fetters wrote: [ >
    > Hello, [ > [ > We have lot's of experience building
    > full size [ > helicopters, but little knowledge in the
    > RC field and [ > what's available. [ > [ > I have been
    > contracted to provide a customer with two [ > large
    > (400 pounds empty) prototype helicopters to be [ >
    > flown by remote control. It is a CCPM controlled [ >
    > configuration. I need to find servo's that are large [
    > > enough to handle at least a 5 pound resistance per [
    > > arm, with a 3" travel. [ > [ > The control rods go
    > through the center of the drive [ > shaft and connect
    > to the control gimble below the [ > transmission, where
    > 3 arms are located for both cyclic [ > and collective
    > inputs for the CCPM configuration. The [ > best
    > solution would be 3 linear servo's, if something [ >
    > preexists. [ > [ > Rather than reinvent the wheel, I
    > hope someone would [ > be kind enough to provide me
    > information on where to [ > find servo's large enough
    > to do the job, or if a [ > linear servo can be used.
    > The response time of these [ > large helicopters are
    > much less than that of an RC [ > model. [ > [ > Also,
    > if someone of high experience in RC helicopters [ > is
    > interested in providing some help with the flights, [ >
    > we're located in the California LA area. [ > [ >
    > Sincerely, [ > [ > Dennis [ [ No where in this or any
    > post did I say "it is destined [ for military
    > (unmanned) use". Beav lied about that. [
    > [ Iknow some of you here will say, well, it was just a [
    > little lie. Well, any lie is a lie, big or small, and
    > [ Beav lied and has done much worse. He told this lie
    > to [ hurt and do as much damage as he could, and it's
    > time for [ all who deal with him to know. He has
    > proven his [ willingness to lie and harm people just
    > for fun, so [ anything he says could be a lie or to
    > cause more damage [ for his entertainment. [ [ Beav is
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    > 8&output=gplain
    >
    >End of advisory
    >
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    >
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    >Mase Krshn Pakshe Mangal Vasara Yuktayam Shravan-
    >Dhanishtth Nakshatr Sadhya-Shubh Yog Vanij-Vishti Karan
    >Dashami Yam Tithau
    >
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    >
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  4. Dear Mr. Whatever_is_your_name

    Netiquette tells us that a sig should not be more than 4
    lines, allthough 6 is rather common.

    But this is the first time ever I have seen a sig of 152
    lines! That is waste of bandwith! Shame on you!

    --
    Have a nice day! Bjørn BL.
     
  5. markd

    markd Guest

    I think that is the purpose of his posts, one to lend
    support that he has anything meaningful to say about health
    subjects, and second to have an excuse to do his advertising
    for what he considers his major occupation. Both have the
    ring of a lead bell.

    >Netiquette tells us that a sig should not be more than 4
    >lines, allthough 6 is rather common.
    >
    >But this is the first time ever I have seen a sig of 152
    >lines! That is waste of bandwith! Shame on you!
    >
    >
    >--
    >Have a nice day! Bjørn BL.
     
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