Heart Aging

Discussion in 'Health and medical' started by Tonishawallace, May 17, 2004.

  1. I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging fast.
    I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped down from
    260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

    My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?
     
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  2. Liam

    Liam Guest

    TonishaWallace wrote:

    > I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
    > fast. I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped
    > down from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.
    >
    > My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    > should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

    I've only good things said about "Padma 23", a mix of 23
    herbs, spices, etc. concocted by Tibetan doctors, produced
    as an over the counter tablet for 100 years first in Russia
    and currently in Switzerland. It's available over the
    counter in Switzerland and in the USA.

    Supposedly it does wonders in re-vascularisation bypassing
    clogged arteries; by taste it seems one of the ingredients
    is cinnamon which recently has been found to counter
    excessive cholesterol.
     
  3. TonishaWallace wrote:
    >
    > I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is
    > aging fast.

    What symptoms are you having?

    > I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped down
    > from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

    (excellent :)

    > My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    > should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

    That would depend on your complete medical history and
    examination. I would suggest you inform your doctor about
    your symptoms and s/he should be able to take it from there
    to advise you on your question(s).

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  4. Anonymous

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    "TonishaWallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
    > fast. I've been
    working
    > on losing weight (slowly dropped down from 260 to 210
    > pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.
    >
    > My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    > should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

    I agree with Dr. Chung's advice that you should
    definitely see a Dr. If it is a heart problem, one would
    even have to know the particular kind to tell what the
    treatment should be.

    You might want to read one of Dr. Weil's books or visit his
    web site for information.

    http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html

    Warning: They will try to sell you stuff. His advice is
    usually fairly good, IMO, but he has this whole marketing
    apparatus around him.

    Bill
     
  5. florald

    florald Guest

    On 14 May 2004 08:23:52 GMT, [email protected]
    (TonishaWallace) wrote:

    >I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging fast.
    >I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped down
    >from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.
    >
    >My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    >should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

    I would love to walk 2 miles a day. You are doing well.
    Have you already cut down on saturated fats and increased
    your fruit and veg intake? You could take Omega 3 fatty
    acid, drink a glass of good red wine each day. Eat a small
    tin of sardines every week. There is so much information
    out there about supplements to help the heart. I can't
    remember them all but you could do a Google search. My
    heart disease was caused by a childhood infection but my
    coronary arteries were fine so I must have been doing
    something right in that respect,
    i.e. diet and exercise. (All my three brothers had heart
    disease; all drinkers and smokers). Good luck, Diana
     
  6. Bill wrote:

    > "TonishaWallace" <[email protected]om> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    > m24.wmconnect.com...
    > > I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
    > > fast. I've been
    > working
    > > on losing weight (slowly dropped down from 260 to 210
    > > pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.
    > >
    > > My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
    > > should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?
    >
    > I agree with Dr. Chung's advice that you should
    > definitely see a Dr. If it is a heart problem, one would
    > even have to know the particular kind to tell what the
    > treatment should be.
    >
    > You might want to read one of Dr. Weil's books or visit
    > his web site for information.
    >
    > http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html
    >
    > Warning: They will try to sell you stuff. His advice is
    > usually fairly good, IMO, but he has this whole marketing
    > apparatus around him.
    >
    > Bill

    Would suggest you be wary of those who would sell you
    something. They tend to worship money.

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    Andrew

    --
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    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  7. Mosaic M_uns

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  8. florald

    florald Guest

    On Sat, 15 May 2004 03:53:52 -0400, Mosaic M_uns <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Fri, 14 May 2004 18:05:40 GMT, [email protected]
    >wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>I would love to walk 2 miles a day.
    >
    >Why can't you?
    >http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html Lift well,
    >Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

    Valvular heart disease. Got a new St Jude bi-leaflet MV Nov
    02 but recently was told that it leaks. Aortic and tri-
    cuspid both have leaks. Have paroxysmal A.fib and flutter
    and 2:1 heart block. Now have a dual chamber pacemaker. Was
    unable to complete cardiac rehabilitation. Widespread OA,
    especially spine. Debilitated by three major surgeries in a
    15 month period. Colon cancer surgery, three months later
    stoma reversal, 11 months later MV surgery. I can't walk 2
    miles a day! ... but I am cheerful and optimistic. Diana
     
  9. [email protected] wrote:

    > On Sat, 15 May 2004 03:53:52 -0400, Mosaic M_uns
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >On Fri, 14 May 2004 18:05:40 GMT,
    > >[email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >>I would love to walk 2 miles a day.
    > >
    > >Why can't you?
    > >http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html Lift well,
    > >Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
    >
    > Valvular heart disease. Got a new St Jude bi-leaflet MV
    > Nov 02 but recently was told that it leaks. Aortic and
    > tri-cuspid both have leaks. Have paroxysmal A.fib and
    > flutter and 2:1 heart block. Now have a dual chamber
    > pacemaker. Was unable to complete cardiac rehabilitation.
    > Widespread OA, especially spine. Debilitated by three
    > major surgeries in a 15 month period. Colon cancer
    > surgery, three months later stoma reversal, 11 months
    > later MV surgery. I can't walk 2 miles a day! ... but I
    > am cheerful and optimistic. Diana

    The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was probably
    stressful for your physicians.

    You remain in my prayers to God in Christ's name.

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    Andrew

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    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  10. florald

    florald Guest

    >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    >probably stressful for your physicians.
    >
    Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
    them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
    until in early April it settled down and I was given an
    appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
    it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
    of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could think
    of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks before.
    Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3 doses).
    Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to the
    hospital again each week until the INR settles. My worst
    worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might want to
    explant this prosthetic valve. Diana
     
  11. Carmen

    Carmen Guest

    On 16-May-2004, [email protected] wrote:

    > >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    > >probably stressful for your physicians.
    > >
    > Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
    > them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
    > until in early April it settled down and I was given an
    > appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
    > it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
    > of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could
    > think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks
    > before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3
    > doses). Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to
    > the hospital again each week until the INR settles. My
    > worst worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might
    > want to explant this prosthetic valve.

    Ginko is an anticoagulant. Surely you had researched it
    thoroughly before taking it? Did you tell your physicians
    you started taking it? Herbal medicines are still drugs.
    Anything you take with an eye towards producing certain
    beneficial physiological and/or psychological results is a
    drug. That means the potential for undesirable side effects
    also exists.

    Carmen
     
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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    > >probably stressful for your physicians.
    > >
    > Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
    > them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
    > until in early April it settled down and I was given an
    > appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
    > it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
    > of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could
    > think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks
    > before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3
    > doses). Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to
    > the hospital again each week until the INR settles. My
    > worst worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might
    > want to explant this prosthetic valve. Diana

    Were you taking Ginko and coumadin at the same time? I'm not
    sure you are supposed to do that.

    Bill
     
  13. [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    > >probably stressful for your physicians.
    > >
    > Do you think so?

    A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
    especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots when
    warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of surgical
    procedures where the warfarin was held.

    > I thought all that would be routine for them.

    Routinely stressful :)

    > Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit until
    > in early April it settled down and I was given an
    > appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday
    > and it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the
    > thought of more hospital appointments. The only thing I
    > could think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2
    > wks before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba
    > (3 doses).

    I believe that can increase the INR.

    > Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to the
    > hospital again each week until the INR settles. My worst
    > worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might want
    > to explant this prosthetic valve. Diana

    Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they given
    you an explanation for why it is leaking more than the usual
    small amount?

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  14. You could take Omega 3 fatty acid, drink a glass of good red
    wine each day. Eat a small tin of sardines every week. There
    is so much information out there about supplements to help
    the heart. Diana>>

    Thanks for the advice and the heartfelt reassurance.
     
  15. TonishaWallace wrote:
    >
    > You could take Omega 3 fatty acid, drink a glass of good
    > red wine each day. Eat a small tin of sardines every
    > week. There is so much information out there about
    > supplements to help the heart. Diana>>
    >
    > Thanks for the advice and the heartfelt reassurance.

    There are those who would be harmed by that "daily glass of
    red wine" advice.

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    Andrew

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  16. florald

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    On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:51:46 GMT, "Carmen" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >On 16-May-2004, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    >> >probably stressful for your physicians.
    >> >

    >Ginko is an anticoagulant. Surely you had researched it
    >thoroughly before taking it? Did you tell your physicians
    >you started taking it? Herbal medicines are still drugs.
    >Anything you take with an eye towards producing certain
    >beneficial physiological and/or psychological results is a
    >drug. That means the potential for undesirable side effects
    >also exists.
    >
    >Carmen

    Thank you Carmen. You are right of course, I should have
    researched it. Its quite unlike me not to do that. I wanted
    for its suggested memory improving properties. I think I
    must have forgotten to research it. Diana
     
  17. florald

    florald Guest

    >Were you taking Ginko and coumadin at the same time? I'm
    >not sure you are supposed to do that.
    >
    >Bill

    Yes, but only for three days. My INR will return to normal
    soon. Today it is 2.4. If it is between 3-4 next week I
    won't have to go to the clinic as often. Diana
     
  18. florald

    florald Guest

    On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:57 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >> >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    >> >probably stressful for your physicians.
    >> >
    >> Do you think so?
    >
    >A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
    >especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots when
    >warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of surgical
    >procedures where the warfarin was held.

    Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to
    hospital early ( about five days) so that I could be
    switched to Heparin.
    >

    >
    >Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they given
    >you an explanation for why it is leaking more than the
    >usual small amount?

    I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
    London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do not
    know that it is leaking more than a small amount, but the
    consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented on it as
    soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an echo to be
    done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I asked about that
    he did not respond. My GP has received a letter about the
    results and it contains a comment about having a TOE done. .
    I see the consultant again on 30th June. These long waiting
    times are common in our UK NHS.

    Diana
     
  19. [email protected] wrote:

    > On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:57 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,
    > MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >[email protected] wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    > >> >probably stressful for your physicians.
    > >> >
    > >> Do you think so?
    > >
    > >A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
    > >especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots
    > >when warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of
    > >surgical procedures where the warfarin was held.
    >
    > Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to hospital
    > early ( about five days) so that I could be switched to
    > Heparin.
    >

    That probably placed a strain on the UK NHS :)

    > >
    > >Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they
    > >given you an explanation for why it is leaking more than
    > >the usual small amount?
    >
    > I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
    > London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do not
    > know that it is leaking more than a small amount, but the
    > consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented on it as
    > soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an echo to be
    > done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I asked about
    > that he did not respond. My GP has received a letter about
    > the results and it contains a comment about having a TOE
    > done. . I see the consultant again on 30th June. These
    > long waiting times are common in our UK NHS.
    >
    > Diana

    Sorry that you have to put up with the long waits.

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    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:57 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B.
    > > Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >[email protected] wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
    > > >> >probably stressful
    for
    > > >> >your physicians.
    > > >> >
    > > >> Do you think so?
    > > >
    > > >A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
    > > >especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots
    > > >when warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of
    > > >surgical procedures where the warfarin was held.
    > >
    > > Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to
    > > hospital early ( about five days) so that I could be
    > > switched to Heparin.
    > >
    >
    > That probably placed a strain on the UK NHS :)
    >
    > > >
    > > >Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they
    > > >given you an explanation for why it is leaking more
    > > >than the usual small amount?
    > >
    > > I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
    > > London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do
    > > not know that it is leaking more than a small amount,
    > > but the consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented
    > > on it as soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an
    > > echo to be done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I
    > > asked about that he did not respond. My GP has received
    > > a letter about the results and it contains a comment
    > > about having a TOE done. . I see the consultant again
    > > on 30th June. These long waiting times are common in
    > > our UK NHS.
    > >
    > > Diana
    >
    > Sorry that you have to put up with the long waits.
    >
    >

    It's in an interesting phenomenon. When a service becomes
    very inexpensive wait times rise as a method to control the
    load on the fixed resource - number of available Dr.
    appointments. I think you see the same thing in the US with
    veterans hospitals. On the other hand, you don't want truly
    needy people dropping out because they can not pay.

    Bill

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