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Heart Bypass - Normal recovery Vs Abnormal

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  1. My father is a 75 year old man that has been a smoker for over 50
    years and was diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago. He is not on
    insulin and controls the diabetes with medication and diet. On
    October 27 my father had an aortic aneurysm repaired which involved
    the aorta below the renal arteries down into the iliac arteries.
    Post-op he ballooned with retained fluid and was put on Lasix to
    reduce his water retention. On November 1, he was in great pain in
    the chest and his blood values showed signs of being close to a heart
    attack. On November 6 a cardiac catheterization was performed and a
    blockage was found on his left descending coronary artery. On
    November 14 he was to have angioplasty but they could not unblock the
    artery and went directly to bypass surgery. He had a double involving
    the left anterior descending and obtuse marginal coronary arteries.
    On the second day post-op, the chest tube was removed but he still
    showed fluid in his chest and another chest tube was put in for
    another 24 hours.

    I know he has been through a great deal and his body needs to repair
    all this damaged tissue. I have been told by others that you will be
    amazed by the change in your father. He will have so much more energy
    but this is not happening. He seems to be in discomfort all the time
    and sounds raspy. His main discomfort is where the chest tube was put
    in and of course his chest. His throat is raspy from the endotracheal
    tube (I think?) Am I asking for too much or is this a normal recovery
    for a person with his history? He just doesn't seem to have the
    energy to start walking around other than bathroom trips. What kind
    of time line should I be looking at with regards to "normal
    activities"?

  2. [email hidden] (Nancy) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    My father is a 75 year old man that has been a smoker for over 50
    years and was diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago. He is not on
    insulin and controls the diabetes with medication and diet. On
    October 27 my father had an aortic aneurysm repaired which involved
    the aorta below the renal arteries down into the iliac arteries.
    Post-op he ballooned with retained fluid and was put on Lasix to
    reduce his water retention. On November 1, he was in great pain in
    the chest and his blood values showed signs of being close to a heart
    attack. On November 6 a cardiac catheterization was performed and a
    blockage was found on his left descending coronary artery. On
    November 14 he was to have angioplasty but they could not unblock the
    artery and went directly to bypass surgery. He had a double involving
    the left anterior descending and obtuse marginal coronary arteries.
    On the second day post-op, the chest tube was removed but he still
    showed fluid in his chest and another chest tube was put in for
    another 24 hours.

    I know he has been through a great deal and his body needs to repair
    all this damaged tissue. I have been told by others that you will be
    amazed by the change in your father. He will have so much more energy
    but this is not happening. He seems to be in discomfort all the time
    and sounds raspy. His main discomfort is where the chest tube was put
    in and of course his chest. His throat is raspy from the endotracheal
    tube (I think?) Am I asking for too much or is this a normal recovery
    for a person with his history?

    It is not usual.

    Quoted message said:

    He just doesn't seem to have the
    energy to start walking around other than bathroom trips. What kind
    of time line should I be looking at with regards to "normal
    activities"?

    Would suggest more frequent follow-ups with his cardiologist while he
    is having symptoms.

    Humbly,

    Andrew
    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com

  3. Nancy said:

    I have been told by others that you will be amazed by the change
    in your father. He will have so much more energy but this is not
    happening.

    Even though he's 75, he probably seems (or will seem to be) more like
    85 or 90 years old, both physically and from a personality point of
    view, for several months after all these operations. You're going to
    have to wait until 6 months go to get a really good feeling for the
    degree to which he will return to his pre-operative personality,
    state-of-mind, and physical capacity.

    Quoted message said:

    He seems to be in discomfort all the time and sounds raspy.
    His main discomfort is where the chest tube was put in and
    of course his chest. His throat is raspy from the endotracheal
    tube (I think?)

    This is quite common for someone that's been on a respirator. You'd
    think that they'd have figured out how to build a more
    "patient-friendly" trache tube by now, as well as take better care
    when inserting it.

    Quoted message said:

    Am I asking for too much or is this a normal recovery for
    a person with his history? He just doesn't seem to have the
    energy to start walking around other than bathroom trips.
    What kind of time line should I be looking at with regards
    to "normal activities"?

    Again, you've got to wait 6 months, and probably more like 9, for the
    recovery to really set-in. You're just 1 week after having open-chest
    surgery (was it beating-heart bypass or on-pump?). You have yet to
    see him at his worst (both physically and psychologically). That will
    probably happen in a few weeks and last a month or two. Look for
    signs of depression, sadness, and tiredness.

    They should be asking him to caugh and take deep breaths at this
    point. Don't be surprised if he caughs up some wicked phlem - better
    to get that out - that's the point of caughing.

    Might be a good idea to get him on a diruetic to prevent fluid buildup
    in the lungs. They probably have him on medication to reduce blood
    pressure. This is sort-of a gut reaction by the MD's to reduce the
    strain on the coronary arteries, but they tend to keep to BP reducers
    going longer than they need to. After a month or two if he's still
    overly tired a good part of that is probably the BP reduction drugs.

  4. Myo Cardium <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Again, you've got to wait 6 months, and probably more like 9, for the
    recovery to really set-in. You're just 1 week after having open-chest
    surgery (was it beating-heart bypass or on-pump?).

    It was a beating heart bypass.

    Quoted message said:

    You have yet to
    see him at his worst (both physically and psychologically). That will
    probably happen in a few weeks and last a month or two. Look for
    signs of depression, sadness, and tiredness.

    He already is showing these signs. He was expecting to be in the
    hospital for only a week and it is now a month. He exhibited these
    signs after his aneurysm surgery and they seem to be worse. It's like
    he has a fear of going home because he doesn't know if he can cope
    with things like showering, getting out of a flat bed etc. On the
    other hand, he desperately wants to get back to his house where the
    heat is warmer and he can do things at his own pace.

    Quoted message said:


    Might be a good idea to get him on a diruetic to prevent fluid buildup
    in the lungs. They probably have him on medication to reduce blood
    pressure. This is sort-of a gut reaction by the MD's to reduce the
    strain on the coronary arteries, but they tend to keep to BP reducers
    going longer than they need to. After a month or two if he's still
    overly tired a good part of that is probably the BP reduction drugs.

    They have him on both of these drugs. He doesn't like the lasix as it
    makes him get up too often in the night. He doesn't get a good nights
    sleep because he is always waking up to go to the bathroom. I think
    they have reduced his dosage because of his complaining. My father is
    not a very good patient. If he doesn't want to do something, it's
    like pulling teeth and dealing with a five year old.

    Another concern I have is that he sometimes still feels the need to be
    on oxygen. If he has been sitting up eating, then sits in a chair for
    15 minutes, add a bathroom break and then he wants to lye down and
    have the oxygen handy - "just in case" - he needs it. Should I be
    looking into getting portable oxygen for when he goes home?

    Thank you for your reply. Your message has been very informative.

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