Hello my friends !!!!!

Discussion in 'Food and nutrition' started by Pandora, Jan 6, 2006.

  1. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Ophelia" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    > "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> "MG" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >>>
    >>> "Bronwyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>>> Hey Pandy, I'm an Aussie (Down Under) not an American, and we're nice
    >>>> too -- you know!!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> Bronnie
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> I wonder how many there are (aussies that is) in this newsgroup?
    >>>
    >>> (I lost my link to that world map thingy we all did, so can't check that
    >>> way )

    >>
    >> I think that map work no more!

    >
    > Yes I just tried too! Christine? Is that site down?


    It's a long time it doesn't work :(
    Pandy
    >
    >
     


  2. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    (snip)
    > >
    > > We go to Vegas each year. This would be the first we wouldn't go together
    > > :( We love Vegas. The food - man you can get just about anything! We


    > Why do you call it Vegas and not Las Vegas?
    > Pan


    It's just a commonly used "abbreviation."
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  3. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    > Pandora wrote:
    >> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >> America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >> lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >> It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >> I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >> I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >> I will tell you!
    >> Fondly
    >> Pandora

    >
    > Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't, how is it
    > you have such a poor understanding of American English? The people at the
    > store down the street who are from Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country
    > for 7 months now, express themselves better than you appear to do. I am
    > highly suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English language
    > (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every post. The maids we had
    > in
    > Bangkok in 1970 would have done better had the internet been available.
    >
    > Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't something I
    > want to read. I don't care to see photos of what you cook. If you want
    > to
    > do that, post to alt.binaries.food. I don't look at most of the stuff
    > over
    > there, either.
    >
    > I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A fake who
    > likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >
    > Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her grandparents did


    Thank you Jill. you are very Kind! What did you do during xmas holidays. Did
    they pissed in your coffeee this morning?
    Cheers
    Your fondly
    Pandy
    >
    >
     
  4. In article <[email protected]>,
    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Pandora wrote:

    (snippage)
    > >>
    > >> Pandora is not in Italy???

    > >
    > > Yes I Am , LOL!
    > > Pan

    >
    > I don't believe you.
    >
    > "have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In America.
    > My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so lovely and so kind
    > ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    > It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    > I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    > I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    > I will tell you!
    > Fondly
    > Pandora"
    >
    > No one talks like this. I've met a number of Italians who own restaurants
    > (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't talk like they are
    > members of a crime family. They sure as hell wouldn't TYPE like they are.
    > You, my friend, deserve every criticism you get. With your half-assed
    > "English" you are an insult to every legitimate Italian-American who came
    > here to make a new life.


    What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-3-2006, Sam I Am! and Hello!
     
  5. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    > Pandora wrote:
    >> "Ophelia" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >> news:eek:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>> "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>
    >>>> "~patches~" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "~patches~" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>>>>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "~patches~" <[email protected]com> ha scritto nel
    >>>>>>>> messaggio news:[email protected]
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Bronwyn wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Hey Pandy, I'm an Aussie (Down Under) not an American, and
    >>>>>>>>>> we're nice
    >>>>>>>>>> too -- you know!!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Bronnie
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Hello!!!! I Am happy to here a person from Australia! I have
    >>>>>>>> discovered (only few days ago) that I have a cousin who has
    >>>>>>>> opened a restaurant in Australia. His name is Andrea Bizzari!
    >>>>>>>> Do you know him?
    >>>>>>>> Cheers
    >>>>>>>> Pandy
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Umm, Pandora I'm from Canada and I don't know Jim, or Bob, or
    >>>>>>> well, you have to listen to the *I am Canadian* thing :) I
    >>>>>>> thought you were in Italy but you aren't?
    >>>
    >>> Pandora is not in Italy???

    >>
    >> Yes I Am , LOL!
    >> Pan

    >
    > I don't believe you.
    >
    > "have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In America.
    > My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so lovely and so kind
    > ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    > It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    > I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    > I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    > I will tell you!
    > Fondly
    > Pandora"
    >
    > No one talks like this. I've met a number of Italians who own restaurants
    > (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't talk like they are
    > members of a crime family. They sure as hell wouldn't TYPE like they are.
    > You, my friend, deserve every criticism you get. With your half-assed
    > "English" you are an insult to every legitimate Italian-American who came
    > here to make a new life.
    >
    > OB Food: Chicken Carciofi
    >
    > 2 chicken breasts, halved and skinned
    > 1/4 cup olive oil
    > 3 cloves garlic, minced
    > splash good white wine
    > 1/2 c. chicken stock
    > 1/4 lb. artichoke hearts, halved (frozen will do)
    > 1 lemon for juice and garnish
    > 1/2 cup fresh parsley
    >
    > Brown the chicken breast halves in olive oil until golden along with the
    > garlic. Deglaze the pan with wine and squeeze in lemon juice. Add
    > chicken
    > stock and the artichoke hearts and cook over low heat until tender.
    > Sprinkle with fresh parsley; plate and serve with slices of lemon, a nice
    > angel hair pasta in a cream sauce with steamed vegetables on the side.
    >
    > Jill


    I repeat: did they pissed in your coffee today?
    have a healthy year Jill!
    Cheers
    yours
    Pandora
     
  6. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >
    >
    > jmcquown wrote:
    >> Pandora wrote:
    >>
    >>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >>> America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so lovely
    >>> and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!! It's a
    >>> pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD I'm very
    >>> glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here. I'm gonna
    >>> do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora

    >>
    >>
    >> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't, how
    >> is it you have such a poor understanding of American English? The
    >> people at the store down the street who are from Ethiopia, Africa,
    >> only in this country for 7 months now, express themselves better
    >> than you appear to do. I am highly suspicious of anyone who
    >> blatantly slaughters the English language (shut up, you folks over
    >> in the U.K.!) with every post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970
    >> would have done better had the internet been available.
    >>
    >> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't
    >> something I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what you
    >> cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food. I don't
    >> look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>
    >> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>
    >> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her grandparents
    >> did
    >>
    >>

    > Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters and hers
    > are postmarked from there, from a post office near Turin. :eek:)
    >
    > As for her command of English, it is much better than my command of
    > French, which is a language I studied in school and where I lived for a
    > while. Foreign languages are difficult to master. :eek:(
    >
    > I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in the
    > hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the result of a
    > fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after a week's stay in
    > one, where he had angioplasty and a stent inserted. We spent New Year's
    > Eve in the Emergency Room. It was not the best Holiday Season for us.
    > :eek:(


    I don't understand. What have I said?
    pandora
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
     
  7. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    messaggio news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > (snip)
    >> >
    >> > We go to Vegas each year. This would be the first we wouldn't go
    >> > together
    >> > :( We love Vegas. The food - man you can get just about anything! We

    >
    >> Why do you call it Vegas and not Las Vegas?
    >> Pan

    >
    > It's just a commonly used "abbreviation."


    Ah! Ok! i thought it was another country :)
    Cheers
    Pandora
    > --
    > http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-3-2006, Sam I Am! and Hello!
     
  8. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Pandora" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    >
    > "Ophelia" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>> "MoM" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>
    >>>> "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "nancree" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>>>> news:[email protected]
    >>>>>> Hi, Pandora,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Do you live in Italy or the USA???
    >>>>>> We'd love to have you live here, but we thought, from your posts,
    >>>>>> that
    >>>>>> you lived in Italy.
    >>>>>> I love your posts.
    >>>>>> Cheers,
    >>>>>> Nancree
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ....And I love yours!!!!! :))))
    >>>>> Thank you
    >>>>> Pandy
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Ok, ok. Pandy doesn't want us to know WHERE she lives! :D
    >>>
    >>> Nothern Italy, near Turin. The name of the country is Germagnano, near
    >>> Alps.

    >>
    >> That is where I thought you lived and I was surprised to see someone
    >> write that you were not living in Italy:)

    >
    > I was surprised too! But perhaps he forgot! I don't remember where all the
    > folks (Rcf'rs) lives! But I know that Ophelia live in Scotland but she was
    > born in Yorkshire (I remember this things because of the puddings :))) ) ;
    > that Margaret, lives in New York; That sf lives in San francisco and
    > Whayne lives near California. I know that Bob Pastorio lives in Virginia,
    > That Carol "in this Crash" lives in Minnesota, that Patches lives in
    > Canada ... and Sheldon lives in Burundi :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
    > I don't know where the other folks lives. I Suggest to write it under the
    > sign.
    > What do you think?
    > Cheers and greetings
    > Pandora
    > in Piedmont (Nothern Italy).


    Oh!!!! I have forgotten that Jill lives in Ruanda, near Sheldon... ! But I
    Am not racist... I love them...after all... :DDDD
    Cheers
    Pandora
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
  9. Pandora wrote:
    > "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    > messaggio news:[email protected]
    >
    >>
    >> jmcquown wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>> there!!! It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks!
    >>>> :DDDDDDDDD I'm very glad to see you again! today is the
    >>>> Epifany feast here. I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today
    >>>> for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't,
    >>> how is it you have such a poor understanding of American
    >>> English? The people at the store down the street who are from
    >>> Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country for 7 months now,
    >>> express themselves better than you appear to do. I am highly
    >>> suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English
    >>> language (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every
    >>> post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970 would have done
    >>> better had the internet been available.
    >>>
    >>> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't
    >>> something I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what
    >>> you cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food.
    >>> I don't look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>>
    >>> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >>> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>>
    >>> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her
    >>> grandparents did
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters
    >> and hers are postmarked from there, from a post office near
    >> Turin. :eek:)
    >>
    >> As for her command of English, it is much better than my command
    >> of French, which is a language I studied in school and where I
    >> lived for a while. Foreign languages are difficult to master.
    >> :eek:(
    >>
    >> I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in
    >> the hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the
    >> result of a fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after
    >> a week's stay in one, where he had angioplasty and a stent
    >> inserted. We spent New Year's Eve in the Emergency Room. It was
    >> not the best Holiday Season for us. :eek:(

    >
    >
    > I don't understand. What have I said? pandora
    >


    Pandora, you said nothing out of the ordinary. I believe that Jill
    misunderstood something in a post of a few days ago. Here it is:

    >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>> there!!!


    I thought you meant that you have "spent" some time reading and
    posting in your Italian news group, because you felt you have
    neglected them. Once you were done there, you returned to rfc and
    resumed your posting here.

    Jill may have thought that you were teasing us about being Italian and
    living there and that you were making fun of us by making mistakes
    when you posted in English.

    You must have noticed that this is something that happens at times,
    that someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in doing so. It
    happened to me a couple of days ago, when I wrote about some "Jews
    being kosher" and someone pointed out that I had used a wrong way to
    describe "Jews who keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I
    told that person that I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)

    Jill is a nice person. I am certain that she meant no harm. You are
    a nice person and I know that this will be straightened out in no time
    at all. There is no sense in getting so upset about it. Besides, I
    get very, very upset when two people I like and consider to be my
    friends, have a misunderstanding. :eek:(
     
  10. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > Pandora wrote:
    >> "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    >> messaggio news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>
    >>> jmcquown wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>>> there!!! It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks!
    >>>>> :DDDDDDDDD I'm very glad to see you again! today is the
    >>>>> Epifany feast here. I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today
    >>>>> for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't,
    >>>> how is it you have such a poor understanding of American
    >>>> English? The people at the store down the street who are from
    >>>> Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country for 7 months now,
    >>>> express themselves better than you appear to do. I am highly
    >>>> suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English
    >>>> language (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every
    >>>> post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970 would have done
    >>>> better had the internet been available.
    >>>>
    >>>> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't something
    >>>> I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what
    >>>> you cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food.
    >>>> I don't look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >>>> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her
    >>>> grandparents did
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters
    >>> and hers are postmarked from there, from a post office near
    >>> Turin. :eek:)
    >>>
    >>> As for her command of English, it is much better than my command
    >>> of French, which is a language I studied in school and where I
    >>> lived for a while. Foreign languages are difficult to master.
    >>> :eek:(
    >>>
    >>> I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in
    >>> the hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the
    >>> result of a fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after
    >>> a week's stay in one, where he had angioplasty and a stent
    >>> inserted. We spent New Year's Eve in the Emergency Room. It was
    >>> not the best Holiday Season for us. :eek:(

    >>
    >>
    >> I don't understand. What have I said? pandora
    >>

    >
    > Pandora, you said nothing out of the ordinary. I believe that Jill
    > misunderstood something in a post of a few days ago. Here it is:
    >
    > >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    > >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    > >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    > >>>> there!!!

    >
    > I thought you meant that you have "spent" some time reading and posting in
    > your Italian news group, because you felt you have neglected them. Once
    > you were done there, you returned to rfc and resumed your posting here.


    Yes! It is like this! But What I have done of bad?
    >
    > Jill may have thought that you were teasing us about being Italian and
    > living there and that you were making fun of us by making mistakes when
    > you posted in English.


    Ohhhh! It would be an honour for me! He should know I was Italian!!!
    Ohhhh! But if it was like you say, I should apologise with him!
    But it is funnY!!!
    >
    > You must have noticed that this is something that happens at times, that
    > someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in doing so. It happened
    > to me a couple of days ago, when I wrote about some "Jews being kosher"
    > and someone pointed out that I had used a wrong way to describe "Jews who
    > keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I told that person that
    > I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)



    I don't take care to some small things! We are humans and we are intelligent
    enough to understand when a person is joking another. Now I think that
    Jill's has exaggerated with his defence, IMHO!

    >
    > Jill is a nice person.


    If it was a nice person he shouldn't tell me such things.

    I am certain that she meant no harm. You are
    > a nice person and I know that this will be straightened out in no time at
    > all. There is no sense in getting so upset about it. Besides, I get
    > very, very upset when two people I like and consider to be my friends,
    > have a misunderstanding. :eek:(


    I Am here.!
    Cheers
    pandora
     
  11. Ophelia

    Ophelia Guest

    "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > Pandora wrote:
    >> "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    >> messaggio news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>
    >>> jmcquown wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>>> there!!! It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks!
    >>>>> :DDDDDDDDD I'm very glad to see you again! today is the
    >>>>> Epifany feast here. I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today
    >>>>> for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't,
    >>>> how is it you have such a poor understanding of American
    >>>> English? The people at the store down the street who are from
    >>>> Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country for 7 months now,
    >>>> express themselves better than you appear to do. I am highly
    >>>> suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English
    >>>> language (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every
    >>>> post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970 would have done
    >>>> better had the internet been available.
    >>>>
    >>>> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't
    >>>> something I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what
    >>>> you cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food.
    >>>> I don't look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >>>> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her
    >>>> grandparents did
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters
    >>> and hers are postmarked from there, from a post office near
    >>> Turin. :eek:)
    >>>
    >>> As for her command of English, it is much better than my command
    >>> of French, which is a language I studied in school and where I
    >>> lived for a while. Foreign languages are difficult to master.
    >>> :eek:(
    >>>
    >>> I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in
    >>> the hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the
    >>> result of a fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after
    >>> a week's stay in one, where he had angioplasty and a stent
    >>> inserted. We spent New Year's Eve in the Emergency Room. It was
    >>> not the best Holiday Season for us. :eek:(

    >>
    >>
    >> I don't understand. What have I said? pandora
    >>

    >
    > Pandora, you said nothing out of the ordinary. I believe that Jill
    > misunderstood something in a post of a few days ago. Here it is:
    >
    > >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    > >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    > >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    > >>>> there!!!

    >
    > I thought you meant that you have "spent" some time reading and
    > posting in your Italian news group, because you felt you have
    > neglected them. Once you were done there, you returned to rfc and
    > resumed your posting here.
    >
    > Jill may have thought that you were teasing us about being Italian and
    > living there and that you were making fun of us by making mistakes
    > when you posted in English.
    >
    > You must have noticed that this is something that happens at times,
    > that someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in doing so. It
    > happened to me a couple of days ago, when I wrote about some "Jews
    > being kosher" and someone pointed out that I had used a wrong way to
    > describe "Jews who keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I
    > told that person that I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)
    >
    > Jill is a nice person. I am certain that she meant no harm. You are
    > a nice person and I know that this will be straightened out in no time
    > at all. There is no sense in getting so upset about it. Besides, I
    > get very, very upset when two people I like and consider to be my
    > friends, have a misunderstanding. :eek:(


    And you Margaret are a very sweet and tolerant person and we all love
    you:))

    O xx
     
  12. Margaret Suran wrote:
    >
    >
    > Pandora wrote:
    >
    >> "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    >> messaggio news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>
    >>> jmcquown wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>>> there!!! It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks!
    >>>>> :DDDDDDDDD I'm very glad to see you again! today is the
    >>>>> Epifany feast here. I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today
    >>>>> for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't,
    >>>> how is it you have such a poor understanding of American
    >>>> English? The people at the store down the street who are from
    >>>> Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country for 7 months now,
    >>>> express themselves better than you appear to do. I am highly
    >>>> suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English
    >>>> language (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every
    >>>> post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970 would have done
    >>>> better had the internet been available.
    >>>>
    >>>> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't
    >>>> something I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what
    >>>> you cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food.
    >>>> I don't look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >>>> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>>>
    >>>> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her
    >>>> grandparents did
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters
    >>> and hers are postmarked from there, from a post office near
    >>> Turin. :eek:)
    >>>
    >>> As for her command of English, it is much better than my command
    >>> of French, which is a language I studied in school and where I
    >>> lived for a while. Foreign languages are difficult to master.
    >>> :eek:(
    >>>
    >>> I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in
    >>> the hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the
    >>> result of a fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after
    >>> a week's stay in one, where he had angioplasty and a stent
    >>> inserted. We spent New Year's Eve in the Emergency Room. It was
    >>> not the best Holiday Season for us. :eek:(

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I don't understand. What have I said? pandora
    >>

    >
    > Pandora, you said nothing out of the ordinary. I believe that Jill
    > misunderstood something in a post of a few days ago. Here it is:
    >
    > >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    > >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    > >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    > >>>> there!!!

    >
    > I thought you meant that you have "spent" some time reading and posting
    > in your Italian news group, because you felt you have neglected them.
    > Once you were done there, you returned to rfc and resumed your posting
    > here.
    >
    > Jill may have thought that you were teasing us about being Italian and
    > living there and that you were making fun of us by making mistakes when
    > you posted in English.
    >
    > You must have noticed that this is something that happens at times, that
    > someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in doing so. It
    > happened to me a couple of days ago, when I wrote about some "Jews being
    > kosher" and someone pointed out that I had used a wrong way to describe
    > "Jews who keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I told that
    > person that I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)
    >


    I didn't mean any harm by it, either. I know I can come across as more
    forceful than I intend to here. Stuff like that bugs me, but it's
    nothing personal :)

    > Jill is a nice person. I am certain that she meant no harm. You are a
    > nice person and I know that this will be straightened out in no time at
    > all. There is no sense in getting so upset about it. Besides, I get
    > very, very upset when two people I like and consider to be my friends,
    > have a misunderstanding. :eek:(



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  13. jmcquown

    jmcquown Guest

    Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Pandora wrote:

    > (snippage)
    >>>>
    >>>> Pandora is not in Italy???
    >>>
    >>> Yes I Am , LOL!
    >>> Pan

    >>
    >> I don't believe you.
    >>
    >> "have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >> America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >> lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >> It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >> I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >> I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >> I will tell you!
    >> Fondly
    >> Pandora"
    >>
    >> No one talks like this. I've met a number of Italians who own
    >> restaurants (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't
    >> talk like they are members of a crime family. They sure as hell
    >> wouldn't TYPE like they are. You, my friend, deserve every criticism
    >> you get. With your half-assed "English" you are an insult to every
    >> legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new life.

    >
    > What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    > family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?


    She talks and writes like she is illiterate of the English language. I
    don't believe she is. She also let everyone think (see the question from
    Ophelia) to which I replied) she was IN Italy when it turns out she's
    somewhere in the USA. To me that smacks of deception. The way she "talks"
    I'd expect a member of the Gambino family to come over and smack me around
    for not believing her. At least she likes to cook, but I'm not buying the
    illiterate Italian thing for a single minute.

    Jill
     
  14. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "sarah bennett" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email protected]
    > Margaret Suran wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> Pandora wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Margaret Suran" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    >>> messaggio news:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> jmcquown wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Pandora wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >>>>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >>>>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >>>>>> there!!! It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks!
    >>>>>> :DDDDDDDDD I'm very glad to see you again! today is the
    >>>>>> Epifany feast here. I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today
    >>>>>> for lunch! I will tell you! Fondly Pandora
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why did I always think you were *in* Italy? And if you aren't,
    >>>>> how is it you have such a poor understanding of American
    >>>>> English? The people at the store down the street who are from
    >>>>> Ethiopia, Africa, only in this country for 7 months now,
    >>>>> express themselves better than you appear to do. I am highly
    >>>>> suspicious of anyone who blatantly slaughters the English
    >>>>> language (shut up, you folks over in the U.K.!) with every
    >>>>> post. The maids we had in Bangkok in 1970 would have done
    >>>>> better had the internet been available.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Doesn't matter; I mostly skip your posts because they aren't something
    >>>>> I want to read. I don't care to see photos of what
    >>>>> you cook. If you want to do that, post to alt.binaries.food.
    >>>>> I don't look at most of the stuff over there, either.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I'm terribly sorry if I'm wrong, but I think you are a fake. A
    >>>>> fake who likes to cook, but nonetheless a fake.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Jill <--speaking with a Scottish brogue because her
    >>>>> grandparents did
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Jill, Pandora lives in Italy. She and I have exchanged letters
    >>>> and hers are postmarked from there, from a post office near
    >>>> Turin. :eek:)
    >>>>
    >>>> As for her command of English, it is much better than my command
    >>>> of French, which is a language I studied in school and where I
    >>>> lived for a while. Foreign languages are difficult to master.
    >>>> :eek:(
    >>>>
    >>>> I hope that you are well and had nice holidays. My sister is in
    >>>> the hospital since before Christmas, with a broken leg as the
    >>>> result of a fall. Marcel just came home from the hospital, after
    >>>> a week's stay in one, where he had angioplasty and a stent
    >>>> inserted. We spent New Year's Eve in the Emergency Room. It was
    >>>> not the best Holiday Season for us. :eek:(
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I don't understand. What have I said? pandora
    >>>

    >>
    >> Pandora, you said nothing out of the ordinary. I believe that Jill
    >> misunderstood something in a post of a few days ago. Here it is:
    >>
    >> >>>> I have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come
    >> >>>> back In America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence:
    >> >>>> they were so lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome
    >> >>>> there!!!

    >>
    >> I thought you meant that you have "spent" some time reading and posting
    >> in your Italian news group, because you felt you have neglected them.
    >> Once you were done there, you returned to rfc and resumed your posting
    >> here.
    >>
    >> Jill may have thought that you were teasing us about being Italian and
    >> living there and that you were making fun of us by making mistakes when
    >> you posted in English.
    >>
    >> You must have noticed that this is something that happens at times, that
    >> someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in doing so. It happened
    >> to me a couple of days ago, when I wrote about some "Jews being kosher"
    >> and someone pointed out that I had used a wrong way to describe "Jews who
    >> keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I told that person that
    >> I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)
    >>

    >
    > I didn't mean any harm by it, either. I know I can come across as more
    > forceful than I intend to here. Stuff like that bugs me, but it's nothing
    > personal :)
    >
    >> Jill is a nice person. I am certain that she meant no harm. You are a
    >> nice person and I know that this will be straightened out in no time at
    >> all. There is no sense in getting so upset about it. Besides, I get
    >> very, very upset when two people I like and consider to be my friends,
    >> have a misunderstanding. :eek:(


    I have never said ugly things to Jill. Now I don't know why she has begun to
    make a war against me.
    For me she is dead! STOP
    Pandora
     
  15. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "jmcquown" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email protected]
    > Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Pandora wrote:

    >> (snippage)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Pandora is not in Italy???
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes I Am , LOL!
    >>>> Pan
    >>>
    >>> I don't believe you.
    >>>
    >>> "have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >>> America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >>> lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >>> It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >>> I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >>> I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >>> I will tell you!
    >>> Fondly
    >>> Pandora"
    >>>
    >>> No one talks like this. I've met a number of Italians who own
    >>> restaurants (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't
    >>> talk like they are members of a crime family. They sure as hell
    >>> wouldn't TYPE like they are. You, my friend, deserve every criticism
    >>> you get. With your half-assed "English" you are an insult to every
    >>> legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new life.

    >>
    >> What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    >> family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?

    >
    > She talks and writes like she is illiterate of the English language. I
    > don't believe she is. She also let everyone think (see the question from
    > Ophelia) to which I replied) she was IN Italy when it turns out she's
    > somewhere in the USA. To me that smacks of deception. The way she
    > "talks"
    > I'd expect a member of the Gambino family to come over and smack me around
    > for not believing her. At least she likes to cook, but I'm not buying the
    > illiterate Italian thing for a single minute.
    >


    Ma allora sei proprio scema!!!!!!!! Non hai capito un bel fico secco!!!!!
    Cmq. Questo è un complimento se non riesci ancora a capire che sono
    Italiana.
    Adesso mi aspetto che mi rispondi in Italiano. O non ne sei capace perchè
    sei ignorante e hai studiato nel Bronx?
    Ciao
    Pandora
    > Jill
    >
    >
     
  16. jmcquown wrote:
    > Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >
    >> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Pandora wrote:

    >>
    >>(snippage)
    >>
    >>>>>Pandora is not in Italy???
    >>>>
    >>>>Yes I Am , LOL!
    >>>>Pan
    >>>
    >>>I don't believe you.
    >>>
    >>>"have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >>>America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >>>lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >>>It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >>>I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >>>I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >>>I will tell you!
    >>>Fondly
    >>>Pandora"
    >>>
    >>>No one talks like this.


    <LOL> *NO ONE* talks like this. Spoken with great authority. And
    foolishly great error.

    >>>I've met a number of Italians who own
    >>>restaurants (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't
    >>>talk like they are members of a crime family.


    And everybody knows that all Italians talk alike, right? And they're
    allied with crime families, right? And you know from how they talk that
    they would write grammatically correct English, right? It's a flaw of
    logic to try to postulate from the particular (one example) to the
    universal (everybody) and, in this case, it's also a character flaw.

    <LOL> As for knowing Italians who own restaurants, I used to be one. And
    I even know some.

    >>>They sure as hell
    >>>wouldn't TYPE like they are. You, my friend, deserve every criticism
    >>>you get. With your half-assed "English" you are an insult to every
    >>>legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new life.


    And you, Jill, are so far off-the-mark that it's hard to believe you
    consider this rational.

    >>What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    >>family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?

    >
    >
    > She talks and writes like she is illiterate of the English language. I
    > don't believe she is. She also let everyone think (see the question from
    > Ophelia) to which I replied) she was IN Italy when it turns out she's
    > somewhere in the USA. To me that smacks of deception.


    Jill, it's absolutely, completely a matter of your not understanding.
    Nothing else. She spent the holidays more actively engaged in Italian
    NG's (as she states above) and has now rejoined RFC which she rightly
    considers American if only by weight of numbers of participants.

    And your extreme reaction and insistence on the correctness of your
    opinion in the face of clarifying explanations makes you look pretty silly.

    > The way she "talks"
    > I'd expect a member of the Gambino family to come over and smack me around
    > for not believing her. At least she likes to cook, but I'm not buying the
    > illiterate Italian thing for a single minute.


    Jill, it's a singular astonishment how utterly wrong you are about this
    and, further, how much like Sheldon you sound. How poisonous you are
    being in the depths of your error.

    She lives in northern Italy. I have postmarks and addresses to prove it.
    In private correspondence, her English is as it is on group. She's not
    illiterate - far from it - she suffers exactly the same things that
    anyone speaking in languages not their own does.

    As for acquaintanceship with Italians - particularly northern Italians -
    my experience far, far trumps yours. My family came from there and my
    first language was Italian. I know the typical language formations
    likely to emerge in English (in which subject I'm university-degreed)
    from that linguistic background. They're what she posts.

    It would be good if you bothered to actually read what others have
    posted about her and the situation. Look less foolish. Sound less bigoted.

    Pastorio
     
  17. Pandora wrote:
    > "jmcquown" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Pandora wrote:
    >>>
    >>>(snippage)
    >>>
    >>>>>>Pandora is not in Italy???
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Yes I Am , LOL!
    >>>>>Pan
    >>>>
    >>>>I don't believe you.
    >>>>
    >>>>"have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >>>>America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >>>>lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >>>>It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >>>>I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >>>>I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >>>>I will tell you!
    >>>>Fondly
    >>>>Pandora"
    >>>>
    >>>>No one talks like this. I've met a number of Italians who own
    >>>>restaurants (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't
    >>>>talk like they are members of a crime family. They sure as hell
    >>>>wouldn't TYPE like they are. You, my friend, deserve every criticism
    >>>>you get. With your half-assed "English" you are an insult to every
    >>>>legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new life.
    >>>
    >>>What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    >>>family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?

    >>
    >>She talks and writes like she is illiterate of the English language. I
    >>don't believe she is. She also let everyone think (see the question from
    >>Ophelia) to which I replied) she was IN Italy when it turns out she's
    >>somewhere in the USA. To me that smacks of deception. The way she
    >>"talks"
    >>I'd expect a member of the Gambino family to come over and smack me around
    >>for not believing her. At least she likes to cook, but I'm not buying the
    >>illiterate Italian thing for a single minute.


    > Ma allora sei proprio scema!!!!!!!! Non hai capito un bel fico secco!!!!!
    > Cmq. Questo è un complimento se non riesci ancora a capire che sono
    > Italiana.
    > Adesso mi aspetto che mi rispondi in Italiano. O non ne sei capace perchè
    > sei ignorante e hai studiato nel Bronx?
    > Ciao
    > Pandora


    Hey, Jill. She respectfully (heh) awaits - in this sentence - "Adesso
    mi aspetto che mi rispondi in Italiano." your reply in Italian. Show us
    all what literacy looks like in a language not your own.

    G'head. No, seriously...

    Scema means "fool." Fits.

    "Bronx" of course, refers to the farm of Jacob Bronk that later became a
    memorable part of New York city. <LOL> It's not, strictly speaking, an
    Italian word. But neither are the constructions "New York Yankees" or
    "Yankee Stadium."

    I especially like how you instantly went to crime families in your
    picture of Italians. Makes me appreciate your obvious and deep respect
    for "every legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new
    life." Couple that with your extremely authoritative grasp of
    linguistics and I can tell you, I'm sure impressed with the erudite case
    you've made. Got your education from Sheldon University, huh?

    Pastorio
     
  18. In article <[email protected]>,
    "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel
    > messaggio news:[email protected]
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > (snip)
    > >> >
    > >> > We go to Vegas each year. This would be the first we wouldn't go
    > >> > together
    > >> > :( We love Vegas. The food - man you can get just about anything! We

    > >
    > >> Why do you call it Vegas and not Las Vegas?
    > >> Pan

    > >
    > > It's just a commonly used "abbreviation."

    >
    > Ah! Ok! i thought it was another country :)
    > Cheers
    > Pandora
    > > --
    > > http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-3-2006, Sam I Am! and Hello!


    No, cara! Las Vegas is a city in the state of Nevada - the southwestern
    part of the USA. It's chief industry is legalized gambling. "Sin City"
    I think it is sometimes called.
    --
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-3-2006, Sam I Am! and Hello!
     
  19. > Sarah Bennett wrote:
    >
    >
    >> You must have noticed that this is something that happens at
    >> times, that someone makes a mistake and annoys someone else in
    >> doing so. It happened to me a couple of days ago, when I
    >> wrote about some "Jews being kosher" and someone
    >> pointed out that I had used a wrong way to describe "Jews who
    >> keep kosher". Instead of getting upset about it, I told that
    >> person that I am old and that I make mistakes. :eek:)
    >>

    >
    > I didn't mean any harm by it, either. I know I can come across as
    > more forceful than I intend to here. Stuff like that bugs me, but
    > it's nothing personal :)


    And I did not take it as something personal. I made a mistake and you
    pointed it out to me and that was all.
     
  20. Pandora

    Pandora Guest

    "Bob (this one)" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email protected]
    > jmcquown wrote:
    >> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
    >>
    >>> "jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Pandora wrote:
    >>>
    >>>(snippage)
    >>>
    >>>>>>Pandora is not in Italy???
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Yes I Am , LOL!
    >>>>>Pan
    >>>>
    >>>>I don't believe you.
    >>>>
    >>>>"have spent my Xmas holiday in Italy. But now I Am come back In
    >>>>America. My Italian Ng friends needed my presence: they were so
    >>>>lovely and so kind ... I have had a nice welcome there!!!
    >>>>It's a pity they are a little hill billies folks! :DDDDDDDDD
    >>>>I'm very glad to see you again! today is the Epifany feast here.
    >>>>I'm gonna do some Spinach gnocchi today for lunch!
    >>>>I will tell you!
    >>>>Fondly
    >>>>Pandora"
    >>>>
    >>>>No one talks like this.

    >
    > <LOL> *NO ONE* talks like this. Spoken with great authority. And foolishly
    > great error.
    >
    > >>>I've met a number of Italians who own
    >>>>restaurants (around here it's the Gristanti family) and they don't
    >>>>talk like they are members of a crime family.

    >
    > And everybody knows that all Italians talk alike, right? And they're
    > allied with crime families, right? And you know from how they talk that
    > they would write grammatically correct English, right? It's a flaw of
    > logic to try to postulate from the particular (one example) to the
    > universal (everybody) and, in this case, it's also a character flaw.
    >
    > <LOL> As for knowing Italians who own restaurants, I used to be one. And I
    > even know some.
    >
    > >>>They sure as hell
    >>>>wouldn't TYPE like they are. You, my friend, deserve every criticism
    >>>>you get. With your half-assed "English" you are an insult to every
    >>>>legitimate Italian-American who came here to make a new life.

    >
    > And you, Jill, are so far off-the-mark that it's hard to believe you
    > consider this rational.
    >
    >>>What, in her posts, suggests "talk like they are members of a crime
    >>>family"? What are you seeing that I'm missing?

    >>
    >>
    >> She talks and writes like she is illiterate of the English language. I
    >> don't believe she is. She also let everyone think (see the question from
    >> Ophelia) to which I replied) she was IN Italy when it turns out she's
    >> somewhere in the USA. To me that smacks of deception.

    >
    > Jill, it's absolutely, completely a matter of your not understanding.
    > Nothing else. She spent the holidays more actively engaged in Italian NG's
    > (as she states above) and has now rejoined RFC which she rightly considers
    > American if only by weight of numbers of participants.


    Yes. But I don't understand where is the problem. If I were an Italian
    American who leaved in America and then went back in Italy for holidays.
    Where is the problem?
    I don't understand!

    >
    > And your extreme reaction and insistence on the correctness of your
    > opinion in the face of clarifying explanations makes you look pretty
    > silly.


    It's what I think! Perhaps is wine or Rum or whiskey..

    >
    >> The way she "talks"
    >> I'd expect a member of the Gambino family to come over and smack me
    >> around
    >> for not believing her. At least she likes to cook, but I'm not buying
    >> the
    >> illiterate Italian thing for a single minute.


    Who is Gambino?

    >
    > Jill, it's a singular astonishment how utterly wrong you are about this
    > and, further, how much like Sheldon you sound. How poisonous you are being
    > in the depths of your error.


    I Am surprised too! But tomorrow with aspirin and fresh air she will change!

    >
    > She lives in northern Italy. I have postmarks and addresses to prove it.
    > In private correspondence, her English is as it is on group. She's not
    > illiterate - far from it - she suffers exactly the same things that anyone
    > speaking in languages not their own does.


    I know that my English is not perfect. But I have said in the first post:" I
    Am here to learn English!"
    Perhaps English language is a little different from her slang!


    >
    > As for acquaintanceship with Italians - particularly northern Italians -
    > my experience far, far trumps yours. My family came from there and my
    > first language was Italian. I know the typical language formations likely
    > to emerge in English (in which subject I'm university-degreed) from that
    > linguistic background. They're what she posts.
    >
    > It would be good if you bothered to actually read what others have posted
    > about her and the situation. Look less foolish. Sound less bigoted.


    Thanks Bob You have said what I think!
    Cheers
    Pandora
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