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JCrowe
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SMS wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>>
>> Never mind, of course, that Little Jimmy Buttpacker {tm} is lying
>> about what I said. I never claimed it saved my life.
>>
>> The first resort of a zealot is to demonize/distort the other side's
>> viewpoint. What better example?
>
> In their world perhaps there is nothing between dead and not-dead.
>
> It remind me of what the old Cingular in the western region used to tell
> customers that called to cancel service because of coverage issues.
> 'Well you know that no carrier has 100% coverage.' They were trying to
> make the case that since the other carriers didn't have 100% coverage
> that all carriers were equal in providing coverage of less than 100%.
> Nice try.
>
> In terms of helmets, it's true that in a horrific crash with a vehicle,
> the cyclist will be equally dead with or without a helmet. But there's a
> lot of cases where head injuries will be greatly reduced or eliminated
> entirely by virtue of a helmet. All the statistics on crash data bear
> out this fact.
>
> Of course the usual response to actual crash data is to immediately
> change the subject to whole population studies with the bogus claim that
> deaths and injuries don't change much after the implementation of a
> helmet law, so this proves that helmets don't offer any protection.
>
> When that doesn't work, it's time to bring up driving helmets and
> walking helmets, claim that people will die of heart attacks because
> they will gain weight after deciding not to ride a bicycle because they
> have to wear a helmet. "Tangential commentary, logical fallacy, and
> outright falsehood," is what Ozark called all this, and it's the most
> accurate and concise description I've seen to describe the postings of
> the AHZ and what's at cyclehelmets.org.
In the end, the choice to use or not use a helmet does, or at least
should in a free country, remain with the individual. I personally wear
one, but I don't care if other people make the same choice. BTW, Bill,
I hope you heal at a good pace. There are some intense hills around
La Jolla IIRC.
--
They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.
-- Ernest Hemingway
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>>
>> Never mind, of course, that Little Jimmy Buttpacker {tm} is lying
>> about what I said. I never claimed it saved my life.
>>
>> The first resort of a zealot is to demonize/distort the other side's
>> viewpoint. What better example?
>
> In their world perhaps there is nothing between dead and not-dead.
>
> It remind me of what the old Cingular in the western region used to tell
> customers that called to cancel service because of coverage issues.
> 'Well you know that no carrier has 100% coverage.' They were trying to
> make the case that since the other carriers didn't have 100% coverage
> that all carriers were equal in providing coverage of less than 100%.
> Nice try.
>
> In terms of helmets, it's true that in a horrific crash with a vehicle,
> the cyclist will be equally dead with or without a helmet. But there's a
> lot of cases where head injuries will be greatly reduced or eliminated
> entirely by virtue of a helmet. All the statistics on crash data bear
> out this fact.
>
> Of course the usual response to actual crash data is to immediately
> change the subject to whole population studies with the bogus claim that
> deaths and injuries don't change much after the implementation of a
> helmet law, so this proves that helmets don't offer any protection.
>
> When that doesn't work, it's time to bring up driving helmets and
> walking helmets, claim that people will die of heart attacks because
> they will gain weight after deciding not to ride a bicycle because they
> have to wear a helmet. "Tangential commentary, logical fallacy, and
> outright falsehood," is what Ozark called all this, and it's the most
> accurate and concise description I've seen to describe the postings of
> the AHZ and what's at cyclehelmets.org.
In the end, the choice to use or not use a helmet does, or at least
should in a free country, remain with the individual. I personally wear
one, but I don't care if other people make the same choice. BTW, Bill,
I hope you heal at a good pace. There are some intense hills around
La Jolla IIRC.
--
They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for
one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in
your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.
-- Ernest Hemingway