S
A
Arthur Clune
Guest
Ian Blake wrote:
>
> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
> a spare tyre.
Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
Arthur
--
Arthur Clune
>
> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
> a spare tyre.
Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
Arthur
--
Arthur Clune
M
MSeries
Guest
Simon Bennett wrote:
> MSeries wrote:
>
> > rav.
>
> Ravioli?
Ravataillement. (ravva-tyre-mon)The word used to designate the Feed
Zone in French races, literally means nourishment.
> MSeries wrote:
>
> > rav.
>
> Ravioli?
Ravataillement. (ravva-tyre-mon)The word used to designate the Feed
Zone in French races, literally means nourishment.
P
POHB
Guest
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote
> Ian Blake wrote:
>>
>> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
>> a spare tyre.
>
> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
>
<pedant>
Surely you mean "essential to fit a new tyre before the event"?
You may not need to buy one.
</pedant>
> Ian Blake wrote:
>>
>> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
>> a spare tyre.
>
> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
>
<pedant>
Surely you mean "essential to fit a new tyre before the event"?
You may not need to buy one.
</pedant>
D
davek
Guest
Not wishing to be a pedant, but...
MSeries wrote:
> Ravataillement.
Ravitaillement
>(ravva-tyre-mon)
ra-vee-tie-mon, each syllable short and with equal emphasis
But I'm sure mon vieux Kahn will be along to put /me/ straight in a
minute...
The word used to designate the Feed
> Zone in French races, literally means nourishment.
Sounds a bit like "revitalising", funnily enough.
d.
MSeries wrote:
> Ravataillement.
Ravitaillement
>(ravva-tyre-mon)
ra-vee-tie-mon, each syllable short and with equal emphasis
But I'm sure mon vieux Kahn will be along to put /me/ straight in a
minute...
The word used to designate the Feed
> Zone in French races, literally means nourishment.
Sounds a bit like "revitalising", funnily enough.
d.
B
Blonde
Guest
Just a thought, but on 200s, depending on how many cafe controls or
shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
anywhere to mount one, you could strap extra clothes or waterproof onto
the bike underneath your wedge saddle pack, using luggage straps or toe
straps so you don't necessarily need any more luggage than a small
saddle pack. I tie my arm warmers onto the stem so they don't use up my
pocket-space which is used only for food, brevet card and wallet.
shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
anywhere to mount one, you could strap extra clothes or waterproof onto
the bike underneath your wedge saddle pack, using luggage straps or toe
straps so you don't necessarily need any more luggage than a small
saddle pack. I tie my arm warmers onto the stem so they don't use up my
pocket-space which is used only for food, brevet card and wallet.
A
Arthur Clune
Guest
Blonde wrote:
> Just a thought, but on 200s, depending on how many cafe controls or
> shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
> second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
> or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
Doesn't work for me - I like one 750ml bottle/hr. Two 750ml/3 hours at
most so I'd still need two bottles for a 200k even with several controls.
I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
mind which alters things somewhat.
Arthur
--
Arthur Clune
> Just a thought, but on 200s, depending on how many cafe controls or
> shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
> second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
> or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
Doesn't work for me - I like one 750ml bottle/hr. Two 750ml/3 hours at
most so I'd still need two bottles for a 200k even with several controls.
I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
mind which alters things somewhat.
Arthur
--
Arthur Clune
D
dkahn400
Guest
Arthur Clune wrote:
> Ian Blake wrote:
> >
> > So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
> > a spare tyre.
>
> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40 miles
left in it?
--
Dave...
> Ian Blake wrote:
> >
> > So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to carry
> > a spare tyre.
>
> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40 miles
left in it?
--
Dave...
S
Simon Bennett
Guest
dkahn400 wrote:
> Arthur Clune wrote:
>> Ian Blake wrote:
>>>
>>> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to
>>> carry a spare tyre.
>>
>> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
>
> Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40
> miles left in it?
Yes Dave, we're always reading of your entanglements with the puncture
fairy. Anyone would think you enjoyed them!
> Arthur Clune wrote:
>> Ian Blake wrote:
>>>
>>> So I suggest if the tyre has done many miles it is essential to
>>> carry a spare tyre.
>>
>> Surely you mean "essential to buy a new tyre before the event"?
>
> Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40
> miles left in it?
Yes Dave, we're always reading of your entanglements with the puncture
fairy. Anyone would think you enjoyed them!
P
Peter Clinch
Guest
dkahn400 wrote:
> Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40 miles
> left in it?
You could just leave a new one 30 miles along the route to save carrying
it! ;-)
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
> Why replace a perfectly good tyre when there may be 30 or even 40 miles
> left in it?
You could just leave a new one 30 miles along the route to save carrying
it! ;-)
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
B
Blonde
Guest
Arthur Clune wrote:
> Blonde wrote:
> > Just a thought, but on 200s, depending on how many cafe controls or
> > shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
> > second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
> > or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
>
> Doesn't work for me - I like one 750ml bottle/hr. Two 750ml/3 hours at
> most so I'd still need two bottles for a 200k even with several controls.
>
> I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
> mind which alters things somewhat.
>
> Arthur
>
> --
> Arthur Clune
I used my second bottle cage as a waterproof holder on Sunday when I
did the Spring into the Dales 110k audax. With the ride out from Leeds
to the start/finish in Hebden Bridge it was a 200k+ day for me and this
arrangement worked well. I must admit to downing at least two cups of
tea in five minutes flat at both cafe stops though! In summer I tend to
use both bottle cages for bidons, but on longer audaxes I use my other
bike which only has one bottle cage on it anyway, so I know can get
away with using only one bidon if I have to and refilling it more often
..
> Blonde wrote:
> > Just a thought, but on 200s, depending on how many cafe controls or
> > shops there are, for food/water bottle refills, you could just use a
> > second bottle cage on the bike to attach your rolled up gilet/waterprof
> > or axtra clothing to. If you don't have a second bottle cage or
>
> Doesn't work for me - I like one 750ml bottle/hr. Two 750ml/3 hours at
> most so I'd still need two bottles for a 200k even with several controls.
>
> I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
> mind which alters things somewhat.
>
> Arthur
>
> --
> Arthur Clune
I used my second bottle cage as a waterproof holder on Sunday when I
did the Spring into the Dales 110k audax. With the ride out from Leeds
to the start/finish in Hebden Bridge it was a 200k+ day for me and this
arrangement worked well. I must admit to downing at least two cups of
tea in five minutes flat at both cafe stops though! In summer I tend to
use both bottle cages for bidons, but on longer audaxes I use my other
bike which only has one bottle cage on it anyway, so I know can get
away with using only one bidon if I have to and refilling it more often
..
I
Ian Blake
Guest
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:17:34 +0100, Peter Clinch
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You could just leave a new one 30 miles along the route to save carrying
>it! ;-)
>
If only I had stopped at the bike shop in Upton upon Severn and
changed it a few miles before it was exhausted.
So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You could just leave a new one 30 miles along the route to save carrying
>it! ;-)
>
If only I had stopped at the bike shop in Upton upon Severn and
changed it a few miles before it was exhausted.
So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
M
MSeries
Guest
Arthur Clune wrote:
>
> I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
> mind which alters things somewhat.
>
That's the key really isn't it. Carry stuff and don't stop or replenish
en route. The OP needs to decide on what his strategy is going to be
and prepare accordingly. AFAIK there are shops and garage in Ireland,
some might be open on a Sunday and the W200 does have feed stations I
believe.
>
> I don't tend to stop and drink copious amounts of tea in the controls
> mind which alters things somewhat.
>
That's the key really isn't it. Carry stuff and don't stop or replenish
en route. The OP needs to decide on what his strategy is going to be
and prepare accordingly. AFAIK there are shops and garage in Ireland,
some might be open on a Sunday and the W200 does have feed stations I
believe.
S
Simon Bennett
Guest
Ian Blake wrote:
> So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
No! Check them _before_ you pass.
> So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
No! Check them _before_ you pass.
P
Peter Clinch
Guest
Simon Bennett wrote:
> Ian Blake wrote:
>
>> So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
>
> No! Check them _before_ you pass.
<old_joke>
Pass it? couldn't even swallow it!
</old_joke fx="b-boom tsss!">
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
> Ian Blake wrote:
>
>> So we just need to check our tyres every time we pass a bike shop.
>
> No! Check them _before_ you pass.
<old_joke>
Pass it? couldn't even swallow it!
</old_joke fx="b-boom tsss!">
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
B
bookieb
Guest
bookieb wrote:
> Hi All,
>
<snip>
Many thanks to all who replied.
Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride (500+),
and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they describe
only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff. So, I'll
bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if possible along
the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop, so
I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop to
stop with a bit of reserve.
Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather than
a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are in good
shape before setting out.
Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
* Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
* Adjustable spanner
* link extractor
* Spoke key
* 3mm allen key
* puncture kit
* pump
* zip ties
* insulating tape
* string
* emergency spoke
* spare inner tubes
* tyre levers
* toe straps
* Swiss Army knife
I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the electrical tape (no lights
except rear red LED flasher) and link extractor (built into my knife).
Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
> Q- Can you point me to a packing list for this kind of distance?
>
> Q- Is carrying a spare foldable tyre overkill [1]?
>
> I don't want to carry any more weight in my pockets, so think I need
> some more luggage. I don't want a rack, and prefer uncluttered
> handlebars, so I'm looking at saddlebags.
>
> I like the look of:
> http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=saddlebag# (Medium
> 1.3l or large 2.7l)
> and,
> http://www.carradice.co.uk/saddlebags/prima-maxi-saddlepack.shtml (5l)
> ....or similar.
>
> I don't want to be lugging a half empty suitcase with me for no reason,
> but I'd like to have enough space too, and there's a big difference
> between 1.3l and 5l.
>
> Q- I know it's a bit "how long is a piece of string", but what size
> (volume) saddlebag should I be looking for?
>
> Q- What luggage do you use for similar events? Any specific
> recomendations?
>
> Thanks for help,
>
> bookieb
>
> [1] Yes, I know, I'm either a prudent cyclist or an idiot, depending
> entirely on whether I split/slice a tyre or not.
> Hi All,
>
<snip>
Many thanks to all who replied.
Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride (500+),
and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they describe
only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff. So, I'll
bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if possible along
the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop, so
I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop to
stop with a bit of reserve.
Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather than
a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are in good
shape before setting out.
Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
* Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
* Adjustable spanner
* link extractor
* Spoke key
* 3mm allen key
* puncture kit
* pump
* zip ties
* insulating tape
* string
* emergency spoke
* spare inner tubes
* tyre levers
* toe straps
* Swiss Army knife
I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the electrical tape (no lights
except rear red LED flasher) and link extractor (built into my knife).
Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
> Q- Can you point me to a packing list for this kind of distance?
>
> Q- Is carrying a spare foldable tyre overkill [1]?
>
> I don't want to carry any more weight in my pockets, so think I need
> some more luggage. I don't want a rack, and prefer uncluttered
> handlebars, so I'm looking at saddlebags.
>
> I like the look of:
> http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=saddlebag# (Medium
> 1.3l or large 2.7l)
> and,
> http://www.carradice.co.uk/saddlebags/prima-maxi-saddlepack.shtml (5l)
> ....or similar.
>
> I don't want to be lugging a half empty suitcase with me for no reason,
> but I'd like to have enough space too, and there's a big difference
> between 1.3l and 5l.
>
> Q- I know it's a bit "how long is a piece of string", but what size
> (volume) saddlebag should I be looking for?
>
> Q- What luggage do you use for similar events? Any specific
> recomendations?
>
> Thanks for help,
>
> bookieb
>
> [1] Yes, I know, I'm either a prudent cyclist or an idiot, depending
> entirely on whether I split/slice a tyre or not.
B
bookieb
Guest
bookieb wrote:
> bookieb wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> <snip>
>
> Many thanks to all who replied.
>
> Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
> While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
> the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride (500+),
> and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
> While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they describe
> only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff. So, I'll
> bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if possible along
> the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
> There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop, so
> I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop to
> stop with a bit of reserve.
>
> Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
> carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather than
> a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are in good
> shape before setting out.
>
>
> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the link extractor (built into
Swiss Army knife, along with spoke key and other sundries).
> Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
> report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
D'oh, sorry, got a bit previous with the posting there.
I'll also chuck in a pair of spare cables (1x Gear, 1x Brake).
It's a large number of bits and bobs, but most are fairly small and
light.
Anyway, enough droning on.
I'll set up the tools, food and clothing, esitmate the volume, and get
a saddlebag with enough space for all that plus 20% or so.
Thanks again, I know it's old stuff round here, but there's nothing
like asking people with practical experience to get sound answers and
advice.
Regards,
Bookieb
Thanks again
> bookieb wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> <snip>
>
> Many thanks to all who replied.
>
> Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
> While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
> the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride (500+),
> and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
> While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they describe
> only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff. So, I'll
> bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if possible along
> the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
> There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop, so
> I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop to
> stop with a bit of reserve.
>
> Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
> carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather than
> a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are in good
> shape before setting out.
>
>
> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the link extractor (built into
Swiss Army knife, along with spoke key and other sundries).
> Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
> report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
D'oh, sorry, got a bit previous with the posting there.
I'll also chuck in a pair of spare cables (1x Gear, 1x Brake).
It's a large number of bits and bobs, but most are fairly small and
light.
Anyway, enough droning on.
I'll set up the tools, food and clothing, esitmate the volume, and get
a saddlebag with enough space for all that plus 20% or so.
Thanks again, I know it's old stuff round here, but there's nothing
like asking people with practical experience to get sound answers and
advice.
Regards,
Bookieb
Thanks again
M
MSeries
Guest
bookieb wrote:
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
You don't need a puncture kit if you are taking a knife !!!!
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
You don't need a puncture kit if you are taking a knife !!!!
D
Dave Larrington
Guest
In article <[email protected]>,
bookieb ([email protected]) wrote:
> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
> I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
> adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the electrical tape (no lights
> except rear red LED flasher) and link extractor (built into my knife).
Id be tempted to add a gear (and brake, if applicable) cable to that
list.
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means available.
bookieb ([email protected]) wrote:
> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>
> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
> * Adjustable spanner
> * link extractor
> * Spoke key
> * 3mm allen key
> * puncture kit
> * pump
> * zip ties
> * insulating tape
> * string
> * emergency spoke
> * spare inner tubes
> * tyre levers
> * toe straps
> * Swiss Army knife
>
> I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
> adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the electrical tape (no lights
> except rear red LED flasher) and link extractor (built into my knife).
Id be tempted to add a gear (and brake, if applicable) cable to that
list.
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means available.
S
Simon Bennett
Guest
bookieb wrote:
> bookieb wrote:
>> bookieb wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>>
>> Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
>> While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
>> the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride
>> (500+), and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
>> While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they
>> describe only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff.
>> So, I'll bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if
>> possible along the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
>> There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop,
>> so I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop
>> to stop with a bit of reserve.
>>
>> Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
>> carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather
>> than a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are
>> in good shape before setting out.
>>
>>
>> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>>
>> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
>> * Adjustable spanner
>> * link extractor
>> * Spoke key
>> * 3mm allen key
>> * puncture kit
>> * pump
>> * zip ties
>> * insulating tape
>> * string
>> * emergency spoke
>> * spare inner tubes
>> * tyre levers
>> * toe straps
>> * Swiss Army knife
>>
> I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
> adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the link extractor (built
> into Swiss Army knife, along with spoke key and other sundries).
>
>> Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
>> report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
>
> D'oh, sorry, got a bit previous with the posting there.
> I'll also chuck in a pair of spare cables (1x Gear, 1x Brake).
> It's a large number of bits and bobs, but most are fairly small and
> light.
I don't bother with the 1x brake -- you can get home without a rear brake so
if a front cable breaks, replace with rear (doesn't work the other way
around, obv). I always carry a spare gear cable as I'd hate to get stuck
somewhere scenic without the full complement of gears (if the cable to the
rear mech goes, you cannot replace with the front).
> bookieb wrote:
>> bookieb wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Many thanks to all who replied.
>>
>> Most of the route is over open moorland or farmland.
>> While there are garages, small shops etc. along the route in some of
>> the towns/villages passed, there is a large field for this ride
>> (500+), and I think I'll stay fairly self sufficent in food.
>> While the organisers have arranged two formal feed stops, they
>> describe only "light refreshments" - presumably tea+biccie stuff.
>> So, I'll bring my own and eat my way through it, replenishing if
>> possible along the way, and always keeping a bit in reserve.
>> There are these feed stops, plus at least one other water only stop,
>> so I'll go up to 2 x 1litre bottles, and I should be fine from stop
>> to stop with a bit of reserve.
>>
>> Following your collective advice, I'll try and slim down the kit I'm
>> carrying as far as practicable. I'll stick with tyre boots rather
>> than a full foldable spare, and make sure that my current tyres are
>> in good shape before setting out.
>>
>>
>> Douglas Carnall's tool list is quite long:
>>
>> * Park tool (4,5,6mm Allen keys, slot and Phillips screwdriver)
>> * Adjustable spanner
>> * link extractor
>> * Spoke key
>> * 3mm allen key
>> * puncture kit
>> * pump
>> * zip ties
>> * insulating tape
>> * string
>> * emergency spoke
>> * spare inner tubes
>> * tyre levers
>> * toe straps
>> * Swiss Army knife
>>
> I'll add some Duck (Duct?) tape (wrapped around the handle of 4"
> adjustable spanner) and tyre boots, drop the link extractor (built
> into Swiss Army knife, along with spoke key and other sundries).
>
>> Probably still a bit of overkill on the toolbox, but hey-ho. I'll
>> report an all up weight for that little lot when I have it assembled.
>
> D'oh, sorry, got a bit previous with the posting there.
> I'll also chuck in a pair of spare cables (1x Gear, 1x Brake).
> It's a large number of bits and bobs, but most are fairly small and
> light.
I don't bother with the 1x brake -- you can get home without a rear brake so
if a front cable breaks, replace with rear (doesn't work the other way
around, obv). I always carry a spare gear cable as I'd hate to get stuck
somewhere scenic without the full complement of gears (if the cable to the
rear mech goes, you cannot replace with the front).
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