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Colin Blackburn
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On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, kim <[email protected]> wrote:
> What equipment will i require
You'll need a notabike for sure.
Colin
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> What equipment will i require
You'll need a notabike for sure.
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Arthur Clune
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Colin Blackburn <[email protected]> wrote:
: On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, kim <[email protected]> wrote:
:> What equipment will i require
: You'll need a notabike for sure.
A hill is probably useful as well.
Arthur
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: On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, kim <[email protected]> wrote:
:> What equipment will i require
: You'll need a notabike for sure.
A hill is probably useful as well.
Arthur
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Erm, strange one for a cycling forum, but here goes...
* Decent warm clothing
* Walking Boots (best with a Gore-Tex liner to keep your feet dry)
* Socks (Bridgedale are good)
* Rucksack (about 10litre capacity should be enough)
Unless you've got some knee problems I would strongly advise against the purchase of those daft "ski-poles" that I've seen some walkers with. If you stumble, you don't want to be flapping around with poles in either hand, you want to be able to get your arms out in front of you!
Let someone know what route you are taking and how long you expect it to take you, just in case.
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Arthur Clune posted ...
> Colin Blackburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, kim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> What equipment will i require
>
>> You'll need a notabike for sure.
>
> A hill is probably useful as well.
A lot would depemd on what you define as 'A hill' .. I mean, technically, Everest could be described
as 'a hill'. Albeit a pretty bloody big hill, but a hill nonetheless.
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> Colin Blackburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, kim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> What equipment will i require
>
>> You'll need a notabike for sure.
>
> A hill is probably useful as well.
A lot would depemd on what you define as 'A hill' .. I mean, technically, Everest could be described
as 'a hill'. Albeit a pretty bloody big hill, but a hill nonetheless.
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Arthur Clune
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A lot would depemd on what you define as 'A hill' .. I mean, technically,
: Everest could be described as 'a hill'. Albeit a pretty bloody big hill, but a hill nonetheless.
Well, I've heard everest described as "high altitude hill-walking". K2 on the other hand, is a
mountain...
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: Everest could be described as 'a hill'. Albeit a pretty bloody big hill, but a hill nonetheless.
Well, I've heard everest described as "high altitude hill-walking". K2 on the other hand, is a
mountain...
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"McBain_v1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> * Walking Boots (best with a Gore-Tex liner to keep your feet dry)
Eh? do decent leather boots have one of these?
More importantly, can you get either with SPD fittings?
Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why do
motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
cheers, clive
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> * Walking Boots (best with a Gore-Tex liner to keep your feet dry)
Eh? do decent leather boots have one of these?
More importantly, can you get either with SPD fittings?
Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why do
motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
cheers, clive
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Richard Bates
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On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, in
<[email protected]>,
[email protected] (kim) wrote:
>What equipment will i require
For the weekend trip I've just done from Wellington, Shropshire, to Coalport via Wrekin, Little
Wenlock, and Coalbrookdale I took the folowing:
Boots (not goretex), socks, w/proof trousers (not needed), wicking base layer, fleece, windproof-
breathable shell, buff (amazingly useful) [1], food, flask of coffee, first aid kit, OS 1:50000 map,
decent gloves.
I also took a change of clothes for going to the pub in the evening, and a took a friend wit me.
Coalport YHA is modern but cosy.
Love and hugs from Rich x
[1] The buff that set the world record for getting lost in less than 24 hours following its
purchase, also set the world record for being the found in less than 12 hours after the purchase
of its replacement. Black buffs and black cycling shorts look alike when nesting in a drawer.
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<[email protected]>,
[email protected] (kim) wrote:
>What equipment will i require
For the weekend trip I've just done from Wellington, Shropshire, to Coalport via Wrekin, Little
Wenlock, and Coalbrookdale I took the folowing:
Boots (not goretex), socks, w/proof trousers (not needed), wicking base layer, fleece, windproof-
breathable shell, buff (amazingly useful) [1], food, flask of coffee, first aid kit, OS 1:50000 map,
decent gloves.
I also took a change of clothes for going to the pub in the evening, and a took a friend wit me.
Coalport YHA is modern but cosy.
Love and hugs from Rich x
[1] The buff that set the world record for getting lost in less than 24 hours following its
purchase, also set the world record for being the found in less than 12 hours after the purchase
of its replacement. Black buffs and black cycling shorts look alike when nesting in a drawer.
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Ben
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:05:20 -0000, "Clive George"
>"McBain_v1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>> * Walking Boots (best with a Gore-Tex liner to keep your feet dry)
>
>Eh? do decent leather boots have one of these?
>
>More importantly, can you get either with SPD fittings?
>
>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
>(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why do
>motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
>"McBain_v1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:GPH0c.2074$%[email protected]...
>
>> * Walking Boots (best with a Gore-Tex liner to keep your feet dry)
>
>Eh? do decent leather boots have one of these?
>
>More importantly, can you get either with SPD fittings?
>
>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
>(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why do
>motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
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Richard Bates
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:10:56 +0000, in
<[email protected]>, Ben <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
>>(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why
>>do motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
>
>Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
>
>The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
Farming Today this morning has something about this ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?farmingtoday
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<[email protected]>, Ben <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill walking
>>(squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice. But why
>>do motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
>
>Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
>
>The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
Farming Today this morning has something about this ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?farmingtoday
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>Farming Today this morning has something about this ...
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?farmingtoday
Oops, I've linked to the BBC website <hangs head in shame> ;-)
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Mark Thompson
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> Eh? do decent leather boots have one of these?
Decent well maintained leather ones won't need 'em. On the other hand you need to maintain them -
polishing, dubbing - if you wan't to stand around in water. The main advantage of Gortex over
leather is that it doesn't need taking care of.
Decent well maintained leather ones won't need 'em. On the other hand you need to maintain them -
polishing, dubbing - if you wan't to stand around in water. The main advantage of Gortex over
leather is that it doesn't need taking care of.
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Ben
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:35:18 +0000, Richard Bates
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:10:56 +0000, in <[email protected]>, Ben
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill
>>>walking (squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice.
>>>But why do motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
>>
>>Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
>>
>>The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
>
>Farming Today this morning has something about this ...
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?farmingtoday
Interesting report and nicely balanced.
I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
do.
Unfortunately nobody does.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 16:10:56 +0000, in <[email protected]>, Ben
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Hooray for the cold - it converted a lot of the ground which would normally have been hill
>>>walking (squelch, splat, sink, which we normally try to avoid) into hill riding, which was nice.
>>>But why do motorbikes ride and churn up what would otherwise be perfectly good bridleways?
>>
>>Dunno about motorbikes, but I've found horses churn up perfectly good bridleways pretty well.
>>
>>The ones I rode at the weekend had nice 6 inch deep hoof prints in soft mud for a few miles.
>
>Farming Today this morning has something about this ...
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?farmingtoday
Interesting report and nicely balanced.
I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
do.
Unfortunately nobody does.
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Adrian
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Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :
> I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
> everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
> do.
>
> Unfortunately nobody does.
Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they shouldn't
be there in the first place...
saying :
> I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
> everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
> do.
>
> Unfortunately nobody does.
Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they shouldn't
be there in the first place...
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Anonymous
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"Adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
> > I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
> > everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
> > do.
> >
> > Unfortunately nobody does.
>
> Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>
> By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they
> shouldn't be there in the first place...
Mmm. Look at virtually any bridleway in the three peaks area and spot the motorbike erosion.
Sometimes it does _really_ annoy me. Are there any 'responsible' off road motorcyclists?
(yes, it's motorbikes rather than 4wds that are the main problem round here
IMO)
cheers, clive
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> Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
> > I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
> > everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
> > do.
> >
> > Unfortunately nobody does.
>
> Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>
> By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they
> shouldn't be there in the first place...
Mmm. Look at virtually any bridleway in the three peaks area and spot the motorbike erosion.
Sometimes it does _really_ annoy me. Are there any 'responsible' off road motorcyclists?
(yes, it's motorbikes rather than 4wds that are the main problem round here
IMO)
cheers, clive
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BenS
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On 1 Mar 2004 17:42:34 GMT, Adrian <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
>> I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
>> everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
>> do.
>>
>> Unfortunately nobody does.
>
>Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>
>By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they shouldn't
>be there in the first place...
This is true. There will always be those who don't give a **** about the damage they cause or where
they ride/drive. Problem is that they're more noticeable when they're on mx bikes or 4wds.
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wrote:
>Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
>> I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is that
>> everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
>> do.
>>
>> Unfortunately nobody does.
>
>Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>
>By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they shouldn't
>be there in the first place...
This is true. There will always be those who don't give a **** about the damage they cause or where
they ride/drive. Problem is that they're more noticeable when they're on mx bikes or 4wds.
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BenS
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:32:56 -0000, "Clive George"
>"Adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>>
>> > I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is
>> > that everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
>> > do.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately nobody does.
>>
>> Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>>
>> By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they
>> shouldn't be there in the first place...
>
>Mmm. Look at virtually any bridleway in the three peaks area and spot the motorbike erosion.
> Sometimes it does _really_ annoy me. Are there any 'responsible' off road motorcyclists?
Yes, there are, but just like decent drivers you never notice them.
With any group you only ever notice the bad members.
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>"Adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Ben ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>>
>> > I think the main thing to take away from the whole motorcycle/mtb/horse/walker/4wd thing is
>> > that everyone should make sure that they don't damage the trail or they repair any damage they
>> > do.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately nobody does.
>>
>> Most responsible 4wd clubs organise lane maintenance days regularly.
>>
>> By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they
>> shouldn't be there in the first place...
>
>Mmm. Look at virtually any bridleway in the three peaks area and spot the motorbike erosion.
> Sometimes it does _really_ annoy me. Are there any 'responsible' off road motorcyclists?
Yes, there are, but just like decent drivers you never notice them.
With any group you only ever notice the bad members.
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