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"John 'the Man'" <
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> >Actually, I've read a biography of Samuel Hahnemann, and I actually =
own two
> >very old moldy volumes of Materia Medica that I picked up in a =
used-book
> >store. While I can't claim to have actually read them like a novel =
(you'd go
> >crazy), I spent several hours on several occasions sampling them. So =
it's
> >entirely possible that I know more about homeopathy than you do.=20
>=20
> Quoting from my online history ...
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> "78 A.D., Dioscorides (40-90 A.D.) published De Materia Medica ("On Medicines"), Europe's first
> real guide to herbal medicine. It discussed 600 plants. It remained a standard medical reference
> for over 1,500 years."
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> Who in their right mind would read a book written in 78 A.D? Could it be Shewmaker? Ha, ...
> Hah, Ha!
While you are laughing, you are displaying your ignorance. While = Hahnemann was doing what you call
"the experimental method" and what he = called "provings," he collected his results and conclusions
in a series = of volumes entitled "Materia Medica."=20
http://tinyurl.com/scnm
Just thought you, as a health care historian, might want to know.
>=20
> I don't do herbs, nor Alternative Medicine and that would include homeopathy, Shewmaker.
I'm waiting to hear what you do when you get the flu.
>=20
> I do Natural Health. And, natural health works only within certain parameters, Shewmaker. Just
> thought that you might want to know.
Parameters known only to you, no doubt.=20
>=20
> Homeopathy comes under the history of Western natural healing practices. I am inclined to believe
> that homeopathy does not qualify as a natural therapy as I have defined it, due to its spiritual
> and metaphysical elements. But, it is definitely was part of the heath reform movement. And, a lot
> of intelligent people over the last couple of hundred years definitely are of the opinion that
> homeopathy actually works.
A lot of intelligent people believe astrology actually works. That = doesn't make it true.
>=20
> Effectiveness is what counts, Shewmaker, not adherence to your Quack Medical Scientism dogma.
Yes, effectiveness is what counts. No system of healthcare in history = has been more effective than
modern scientific medicine.
By the way:
Main Entry: dog=B7ma=20 Pronunciation: 'dog-m&, 'd=E4g- Function: noun Etymology: Latin
dogmat-, dogma, from Greek, from dokein to seem -- more = at DECENT Date: 1638 1 a : something
held as an established opinion; especially : a definite = authoritative tenet b : a code of
such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c : a = point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative
without adequate = grounds
2 : a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally = stated and authoritatively
proclaimed by a church=20
The "authority" of medical practice is constantly being challenged and = changed by research. Points
of view or tenets "put forth as = authoritative without adequate grounds" are immediately attacked
from = all sides and rejected by the scientific world.
Just thought you might want to know.
--Rich
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<DV><FONT size=3D2>"John 'the Man'" <</FONT><A=20 href=3D"
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<DVII><BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> >Actually, I've read a = biography of=20 Samuel
Hahnemann, and I actually own two<BR>> >very old moldy = volumes of=20 Materia Medica
that I picked up in a used-book<BR>> >store. While = I can't=20 claim to have actually
read them like a novel (you'd go<BR>> = >crazy), I=20 spent several hours on several
occasions sampling them. So it's<BR>>=20 >entirely possible that I know more about
homeopathy than you do. = <BR>>=20 <BR>> Quoting from my online history ...<BR>>
<BR>> "78 A.D.,=20 Dioscorides (40-90 A.D.) published De Materia Medica ("On<BR>> =
Medicines"),=20 Europe's first real guide to herbal medicine. It<BR>> discussed 600 =
plants.=20 It remained a standard medical reference for<BR>> over 1,500 =
years."<BR>>=20 <BR>> Who in their right mind would read a book written in 78 =
A.D? =20 Could it<BR>> be Shewmaker? Ha, ... Hah, Ha!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DV><FONT size=3D2>While you are laughing, you are displaying your = ignorance.=20 While
Hahnemann was doing what you call "the experimental method" and = what he=20 called
"provings," he collected his results and conclusions in a series = of=20 volumes entitled
"Materia Medica." </FONT></DIV>
<DVI><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DVII><A href=3D"
http://tinyurl.com/scnm"><FONT=20
size=3D2>
http://tinyurl.com/scnm</FONT></A></DIV>
<DVIII><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIX><FONT size=3D2>Just thought you, as a health care historian, might = want to=20
know.</FONT></DIV>
<DX><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXI><BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> I don't do herbs, nor Alternative = Medicine=20 and that
would include<BR>> homeopathy, Shewmaker.</FONT></DIV>
<DXII><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXIII><FONT size=3D2>I'm waiting to hear what you do when you get the=20 flu.</FONT></DIV>
<DXIV><BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> I do Natural Health. And, = natural=20 health works
only within certain<BR>> parameters, Shewmaker. = Just=20 thought that you might
want to know.
</FONT></DIV>
<DXV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXVI><FONT size=3D2>Parameters known only to you, no doubt. = </FONT></DIV>
<DXVII><BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> Homeopathy comes under the history = of=20 Western natural
healing<BR>> practices. I am inclined to = believe that=20 homeopathy does not
qualify<BR>> as a natural therapy as I have = defined it,=20 due to its spiritual
and<BR>> metaphysical elements. But, it is =
definitely was part of the heath<BR>> reform movement. And, a = lot of=20 intelligent
people over the last<BR>> couple of hundred years = definitely are=20 of the opinion that
homeopathy<BR>> actually works.</FONT></DIV>
<DXVIII><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXIX><FONT size=3D2>A lot of intelligent people believe astrology = actually works.=20 That
doesn't make it true.</FONT></DIV>
<DXX><BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> Effectiveness is what counts, = Shewmaker, not=20 adherence
to your Quack<BR>> Medical Scientism dogma.</FONT></DIV>
<DXXI><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXXII><FONT size=3D2>Yes, effectiveness is what counts. No system of = healthcare in=20 history
has been more effective than modern scientific = medicine.</FONT></DIV>
<DXXIII><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXXIV><FONT size=3D2>By the way:</FONT></DIV>
<DXXV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DXXVI><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Main Entry: =
<B>dog=B7ma</B>=20 </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Pronunciation:=20
</FONT><TT>'dog-m&, 'd=E4g-</TT><BR></FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New = Roman"=20
size=3D3>Function: <I>noun</I><BR></FONT><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New
Roman">Etymology: Latin <I>dogmat-, dogma, </I>from = Greek, from=20
<I>dokein </I>to seem -- more at </FONT></FONT><A=20
href=3D"
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&va=3D= decent"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D-1>DECENT</FONT></A><BR></FONT><FONT = size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">Date: 1638<BR><B>1 a</B> <B>:</B> something = held as an=20
established opinion; <I>especially</I> <B>:</B> a definite authoritative = tenet=20
<B>b</B> <B>:</B> a code of such tenets <pedagogical <I>dogma</I>> =
<C>c</B> <B>:</B> a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative = without=20 adequate
grounds<BR><B>2</B> <B>:</B> a doctrine or body of doctrines = concerning=20 faith or morals
formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a = church=20 </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DV><FONT size=3D2>The "authority" of medical practice is constantly = being=20 challenged and
changed by research. Points of view or tenets "put forth = as=20 authoritative without
adequate grounds" are immediately attacked from = all sides=20 and rejected by the
scientific world.</FONT></DIV>
<DVI><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DVII><FONT size=3D2>Just thought you might want to know.</FONT></DIV>
<DVIII><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIX><FONT size=3D2>--Rich</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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