Hopping with cranks vertical



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I decided to concentrate on hopping today, but although all the advice
seems to suggest that I should be hopping with my cranks horizontal, I
was finding it easier to hop and maintain control with my cranks
vertical (right foot down).

I even managed to hop up a curb :) :) ! That made me happy inside!

But, is hopping with cranks vertical a habit I should be getting into,
or would it be more beneficial to really practice hopping with cranks
horizontal?

Cheers

Matt


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net_hippy wrote:
> I decided to concentrate on hopping today, but although all the advice
> seems to suggest that I should be hopping with my cranks horizontal, I
> was finding it easier to hop and maintain control with my cranks
> vertical (right foot down).
>
> I even managed to hop up a curb :) :) ! That made me happy inside!
>
> But, is hopping with cranks vertical a habit I should be getting into,
> or would it be more beneficial to really practice hopping with cranks
> horizontal?
>
> Cheers
>
> Matt



Most... certainly... not!

Although you are finding it easier to learn that way, it would put you
way off balance when advancing onto other obstacles.

If you are having trouble keeping your feet horizontal when trying to
hop the conventional way, make sure you keep your legs straight with
unbent knees, good body tension, stand up straight, and do little hops
with your whole body.


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horizontal is better in the long run. tr switchin gyour back foot


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I learned to hop rolling..which was wierd and I found it easier to hop
w/ vertical cranks like you're saying. Eventually I tried hopping in
one place w/ horrizontal cranks and found it much easier after a small
while.


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Its actually a good skill to have, to land and jump in any position. But
dont use it for your preferred way of hopping.

Just keep practicing so you have equal pressure on each feet and
hopping horizontally should become pretty easy.


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'**** Fosbury.' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Fosbury) Who knows
what a new technique can bring?


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Not a good thing at all. You want the cranks horizontal. It'll make it
easier for just about everything.

I've tried doing it with them verticle and I just can't do it :p. I
guess I'm used to the other way.


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hopping with your cranks horizontal will give you about 6 inches extra
clearance between your ass and the seat, allowing for much greater tuck
on jumps. Having your feet spread also gives you a mroe stable base.
However, being able to both land drops with the cranks vertical and put
in small correction hops is useful in muni.


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harper wrote:
> '**** Fosbury.' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Fosbury) Who knows
> what a new technique can bring?




or something like the outcome of this

[image:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/lardmcfatso/unidudedx.jpg]


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unibikeling wrote:
> or something like the outcome of this
>
> [image:
> http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/lardmcfatso/unidudedx.jpg]






ha ha ha ya its not a good idea, jump with them level it will work alot
better in the end. but it would be funny to see someone doing
that.......


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those pictures are so graphically gruesome


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vanpaun wrote:
> those pictures are so graphically gruesome




im sorry, i need to remember the family forum! Gosh! *slaps head*
lol...


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Nobody mentioned this yet, but hopping with the cranks vertical will put
all the stress on the bottom crank, which would lead to early
consequences with a square-taper axle. It's probably fine with a
splined setup though.

It's probably also hard on that bottom pedal, and could pop the
bearings. But it could be interesting as an alternative hopping method,
or just something most people can't do.


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johnfoss wrote:
> Nobody mentioned this yet, but hopping with the cranks vertical will put
> all the stress on the bottom crank, which would lead to early
> consequences with a square-taper axle. It's probably fine with a
> splined setup though.
>
> It's probably also hard on that bottom pedal, and could pop the
> bearings. But it could be interesting as an alternative hopping method,
> or just something most people can't do.




To avoid these problems, rotate one-half each time you hop up into the
air, to stress each pedal evenly. :D


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One of the main reasons I've been able to hop like this is I'm
struggling to bring myself to a halt with the cranks horizontal...my
feet want to keep going until my right one is on the ground. Just seem
to have more control that way.


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net_hippy wrote:
> One of the main reasons I've been able to hop like this is I'm
> struggling to bring myself to a halt with the cranks horizontal...my
> feet want to keep going until my right one is on the ground. Just seem
> to have more control that way.



Mount using a wall or something to lean on, stand up straight holding
the seat with whichever hand feels right, and go for it.

ps keep both your legs locked.


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jamessd wrote:
> Mount using a wall or something to lean on, stand up straight holding
> the seat with whichever hand feels right, and go for it.





Yeah, I can mount ok and just hop from there, but riding for a while
and getting the cranks horizontal is what i'm having problems with.


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jamessd wrote:
>
> ps keep both your legs locked.




I disagree with this advice. You need your knees slightly bent to
absorb landings and crouch for jumps. Otherwise you are hopping with
just your calves and ankles. It's also harder to balance.


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net_hippy wrote:
> Yeah, I can mount ok and just hop from there, but riding for a while and
> getting the cranks horizontal is what i'm having problems with.




Practice riding backwards and idling, then. That will fix that problem
(with time) - the stopping with your cranks horizontal skill is
necessary for many tricks, not just hopping.


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Seager wrote:
> I disagree with this advice.




Where did he say he was doing drops or trying to get any height? The
first thing to learn is standard hopping, which is hopping on the spot
to gain balance. Therefore, my advice was fully correct, and not yours.


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