how are your ankles and knees?



If for some reason I do have any pains and aches in my ankle or knee I
do put magnet wrappers on over the night. 9 out of 10 the next morning
there is not symptoms. This is not exactly 'magic', although everything
is. I assume it slowes blood stream and permits more time for 'the
goodies' to go into that part of the affected area where they are
needed.;) It may or may not work- in any age.It may replace, in some
cases.....antyinflamatory drugs.:D


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johnfoss wrote:
> *If you can, get shorter cranks, a bigger wheel, or both.
> *



I fully intend to, but I have to get some money first, which might be
slightly more tricky.
The obvious answer would be to sell my bike, as I haven't used it for
months, but the state its in I think I'd end up paying someone to take
it away for me!


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unigeee wrote:
> *I'm not talkong about pain i'm talking about aches that i ride
> through and may inhibit how high i can jump. the technique is comming
> along. the one tech change that i have adapted is to not just land on
> my ankles during drops (feet on pedals), but to engage them (flex to
> prepare for the impact). any other helpful longevity provoking tips
> from you century club seekers?
> *


If it's just aches rather than pains, yeah, I get aches and soreness too
after long rides. Mostly it's the muni weekends and the Moab Muni Fest
that do me in. That's two or three days of long muni rides in a row.
My leg muscles are always sore after that. More conditioning would help
along with hiring a private masseur. That's what we need for the next
muni weekend -- a masseur.

I also don't like the ankle pains caused by landing a drop when the
ankles are flexed too much. It's an initial sharp "ouch" and then a
dull ache for a while afterwards. I try to avoid that, and it hasn't
happened to me recently so maybe I'm getting better at preventing it.
I'm not big on drops so that is one reason it doesn't happen to me much.
But sometimes it happens while just riding a trail that has small
little step drops and you just hit one of them in the wrong pedal
position or bad foot posture and Bam! you get the sting. It sucks when
that happens on just a little drop. I don't know how to really avoid
that ankle sting. I'm not going to wear a restricting brace because I
need to be able to flex my ankles for proper riding. Maybe it happens
to the young kids to and it's only the old guys that complain about it.


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I almost don't want to answer here because my answer may jinx me
somehow. I've been cycling lots since I was 24 years old (21 years ago).
Unicycling in the last 6+ years only. I have never ever had knee or
ankle problems other than injuries from crashes. Make sure your knees
are warm enough, don't overdo it, stretching may help. Those sound like
good ideas, but I don't do ANY of them - I just ride. Someday I expect
to start having problems somewhere and will then start being more
careful I guess. Sorry this is no help at all...

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theamazingmolio wrote:
> *I'm only 15 so you probably don't even want me viewing your thread.
> but anyway:
> knees: I get a bit of an ache in my right knee when I do my (almost)
> daily 4mile round trip into town on my 20". *


Since you are 15 you might have Osgood-Schlaters disease. This is an
overuse injury that results in inflamation/irritation of the shin bone
just below your knee. I'd see a doctor.

To explain what might be going on I have to describe how bones grow.
When babies are born their bones are mostly cartilage. They aren't
really bones as we know them because there is very little calcium in
them. The long bones quickly begin to deposit calcium in the middle and
end caps, but the two regions of cartilage between the middle and the
end caps stay soft. It's these zones that grow as the kid gets older.
In a 10 year old the cartilage zones are just thin plates that separate
the bony shaft from the hard end caps. When you go through adolescence
the surge in sex hormones (either testosterone or estrogen) causes the
cartilage to grow rapidly, but the calcification process increases even
more rapidly. This is the famous "growth spurt."
It's over when the calcification process consumes the cartilage growth
plate and your long bones become one piece of calcium.

So what is Osgood-Schlater's disease? There is a major growth plate in
your shin bone about an inch below your knee joint. This is also where
the patelar tendon attaches. The patelar tendon holds your kneecap over
your knee when the quads pull on it. When you bend the knee under load
(pedaling, for instance) the growth plate is under tremendous stress.
With all the growing and calcification that goes on in adolescence this
stress may be too much and it can start growing funny. You don't want
that because then it might misalign your knee joint for life. Like I
said, I'd see a doctor and get a professional opinion. I think they
need to take an x-ray or something to do a proper diagnosis. My little
brother had this when he was 15 and had to spend 6 months in a cast to
let his bones rest. (I think the Doc just wanted to make sure he didn't
cheat and play soccer again.)

The other possiblity is that you've got the same muscular imbalance that
I had when I was racing. The teardrop muscle above your knee on the
inside front of your thigh isn't as strong as the muscles on outer front
of your thigh so the patella is pulled to the outside and tracks poorly.
This one is simple to fix if you've got the discipline: sit in a
chair, put a sandbag or other weight on your foot, and straighten your
leg. Hold it out as long as you can, then let it down. Rest a little
bit and repeat 5 times every morning and evening. Again, don't just
take my word for it. Go see a Doc first. Don't neglect your knees!
They're really useful.

Good luck,

Tim


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> I also don't like the ankle pains caused by landing a drop when the
> ankles are flexed too much. It's an initial sharp "ouch" and then a
> dull ache for a while afterwards. I try to avoid that, and it hasn't
> happened to me recently so maybe I'm getting better at preventing it.



the sting, that's a good thing to call it. I'm not big on drops meaning
i don't seek them out on purpose but with trials riding i find myself
regularly dropping three feet+. you probably have gotten good at it
having discovered that you don't like the sting. i'm getting much better
at it by pointing the balls of my feet downwards and absorbing to flat.
with that i get no sting. i expect that eventualy i won't even think
about it.

i also find that Muni produces less joint ache, just ordinary tired
muscles.

> Those sound like good ideas, but I don't do ANY of them - I just ride.
> Someday I expect to start having problems somewhere and will then
> start being more careful I guess. Sorry this is no help at all...



lucky you. i generaly have just ridden as well and now find myself
having to admit that i need to just think about it a little bit. keep it
up though, you're doing soething right.

john


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> This one is simple to fix if you've got the discipline: sit in a
> chair, put a sandbag or other weight on your foot, and straighten your
> leg. Hold it out as long as you can, then let it down.



I sat here reading this and then began doing exactly that while reading
this thread. Just a suggestion, combines the enjoyment of reading the
board and exercising all at once. I gotta remember to do it more
often.

I have been doing drops @ 2' and I have been landing flat footed on the
pedals. I did this thinking I would minimize the ankle sting, that John
mentioned. Turned out, I injured the area that is the arch of my foot.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I could barely walk this
morning. I stretched it a bit and took some Mobic and that seems to
have helped. I can't take Ibuprofin, it makes me light headed. NOt
fun.

I will have to go back and work on the drops at lower heights and work
on technique. I also may have to raise the Psi, because I was bottoming
out everytime.

I found that lowering the seat for obstacles has reallyhelped, and
raising it for on the open trail has helped as well. It might be
inconvenient to switch the height, but if it keeps me riding, what the
Heck.

I find that the rides on Muni weekends are good for the knees because
you end up stopping so much to play on parts of the trail. It allows a
break on the knees. Stretch, before moving on and I can ride farther,
than if it was just continuous mileage - thats when the knee pain sets
in.

I have learned to stop and rest, stretch and play, then move on.
No heavy duty mileage for this "Cat".


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teachndad wrote:
> * I have been doing drops @ 2' and I have been landing flat footed on
> the pedals. I did this thinking I would minimize the ankle sting,
> that John mentioned. Turned out, I injured the area that is the arch
> of my foot. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I could barely
> walk this morning. I stretched it a bit and took some Mobic and that
> seems to have helped. I can't take Ibuprofin, it makes me light
> headed. NOt fun.
> *


How soft are the soles of your riding shoes? If the shoes are too soft
then drops can indeed hurt the bottom of your feet.

I had to add 'Dr. Scholl's Advantage Sport insoles'
(http://www.drscholls.com/product.aspx?prodid=56) to my AXO/661 Dually
shoes because the shoe sole was too soft. The Dr. Scholl's inserts have
a plastic piece to support the arch. That plastic piece just happens to
be in the right spot to keep the pedals from hurting the bottom of your
feet when doing drops. With the new insoles, drops do not hurt the
bottom of my feet at all.


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Rod-

Shoes make a BIG difference in foot comfort after drops. If I wear the
flat soled Airwalks that I commute by Coker with for drops it hurts my
feet like crazy. High arched, stiff running shoes make a HUGE
difference. Now I use those in combination with ankle support that has a
stiff arch plate which does it all.

I have been doing the leglift excercises as well but I use either a
piano or a Volkswagen instead of a sandbag. Sandbags are for sissies.


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harper wrote:
> *
>
> I have been doing the leglift excercises as well but I use either a
> piano or a Volkswagen instead of a sandbag. Sandbags are for sissies.
> *



I hope you're using a concert grand, because my Mom uses a compact,
apartment size one.


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