How dangerous is road cycling, for real?

Discussion in 'Road Cycling' started by Serjio, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    I hear you Beanz. I was clicking on other surveys here and never had a problem then BOOM! I had a problem, so I won't be clicking on those ever again, but I thought, because of what happened to me, was to tell everyone so they won't run into a problem. I'm glad you told us all what you do though, not sure how foolproof the cursor thing is especially with a lot of Chinese and Russian hackers could make something appear legit and it not be.

    I used Webroot years ago and that thing was worthless! They must have changed it since I used it. I'll have to check it out again. I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials now, and it missed the Trojan virus, but I've been using it for 3 years after AVAST failed me several times, and in the last 3 years that Trojan was the first time anything got past MS Security Essentials. I'm thinking these viruses change all the time and a virus detector will spot todays, and another will miss todays but catch tomorrows when the other one that caught todays misses tomorrows.

    Anyway I'm not a computer wiz so I don't know what the heck I'm talking about! LOL!!
     
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  2. Germanrazor

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    After road cycling for nearly two decades I can say it is all chance. No more dangerous than other like outdoor activities.

    The problem I see from other cyclist that lend to being struck by cagers are as follows:

    - Wearing dark clothing rather than bright visible
    - Not having a decent rear blinking light on your bike for catching the attention of cagers
    - Improper road etiquette
    - And as always.....cyclist just doing stupid stuff

    Even if you wear bright clothing, rear blinking light and just in general awareness....you can still suffer a accident. But your goal is trying to decrease those odds.

    Good luck.
     
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  3. alphasports

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    Beautiful bikes, and garden too!
     
  4. allen9H

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    The risks that you would be hit by a car are minimal, in my opinion.
     
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  5. Mr. Beanz

    Mr. Beanz Well-Known Member

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    I know people don't like to hear it but plenty also depends on how the cyclists behaves on the road.

    Being a person who has always avoided group rides, I recently started about 3 months ago riding with a group after an invite from another forum member I have known for 15 years.

    I invited 3 of my buddies and I can see a big difference in the way we ride. I have on video, one of my buddies switching lines and even though in the bike lane, I see him look back EVERY time before changing his line. That is what we are supposed to do. Make me proud that I look at my buds and you can tell they are well disciplined.

    Then you see 2 abreast from the group, in a line of maybe 10 riders. I'm at the back to avoid trouble when I see a rider just pull out and go around the others WITHOUT LOOKING BACK FIRST! :eek: Holy cow!

    I see it often then I also see riders get passed, then come from the back as we approach a stop light insisting on being at the front of the group. Ok, now you made it so the faster riders have to pass you again for no reason taking risks. If I arrive in position #7 at the light, I stay there.

    One chick I see insists on being at the front for bragging rights claiming to pull the group. Yeah, for a couple minutes then fades and gets dropped on the first smallest incline. Which again forces stronger riders out into traffic having to pass the fading cyclist who shouldn't have been up there in the first place.

    Also, same chick falls behind. We stop at a red light. She passes the stopped group on the left and blows the red light if possible slipping between traffic. Wow! Dangerous and the other thing, it's illegal. Most the group want to avoid a $500 ticket for something stupid like wanting to be first when you shouldn't anyway.

    I was chatting with the ride leader yesterday, suggesting that he give a little more instruction to the riders with unsafe practices. He says he tries but they don't listen. I told him I've felt like saying something at times but I just mind my own as I am not the leader.

    But I sure would hate to see another rider get hit while going around with noting to prove. Or go around and get hit by a car and getting tossed into the group injuring several others.

    I try to be safe. Even think that I shouldn't be riding in a group for given reasons and common practices in every group I have been in and seen.

    I rode with another group twice 10 years ago. 10 minutes into the ride I was like HELL NO! Never went with them again, 2 crashes for stupid reasons ending up in broken bones. I saw it coming in the first 10 minutes out on the road with them. I mentioned it to the president of the club, he got upset and we ended up in a feud that lasted for years.

    Till he got a taste of his own stupidity and crashed for stupid reasons ending up in his permanent disability and loss of one side of his body. Even right before his accident, I would see the club flying through red light intersections at blind corners. Wow!

    Well, somebody learned by their mistakes and it wasn't me. I learn before I make my mistakes and make adjustments to keep myself safe. Too many riders get involved in a club or group then think all the stupid things they do are acceptable.

    Forget all that crap, follow the rules, use good etiquette and keep yourself safe.

    Not saying all bike accidents are the fault of the cyclist, but I see way too many cyclists setting themselves up for failure for no reason other than ego. F that, I finish in the middle of the pack or at the end as long as I am safe. And that is with a group of 30 that maybe 3 are stronger cyclists than I am. Safe rather than sorry!

    It is as dangerous as you make it. Sadly I can see about 5 of the group riders getting hurt sometime soon. :(
     
  6. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    I hate to agree with you Mr Beanz, but after 40 plus years of riding a bike and driving a car, and being highly observant of things going on around me, I have to say, most bicycle accidents are the fault of the cyclist. I know I've read reports that have said that motorists are the ones at fault most of the time, but those reports come pro cyclists activists, so they will be slanted. I can tell that you noticed the same thing I have so I know what I've seen over the years is not a fluke. I'm surprised you haven't gotten any stones thrown at you yet!

    While I think some of those cyclists have ego issues, a lot of it is just stupidity, and some just don't have a clue how to ride safely.
     
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  7. Mr. Beanz

    Mr. Beanz Well-Known Member

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    I agree and yes, I do get stones thrown at me often ha ha!

    I actually hate talking bike accidents at times for the reasons you mention. I remember years ago, a cyclist was found on the side of the road dead. Comments all over the forums to prosecute the driver for murder. Turns out the guy hit a grating, flipped and broke his neck. Not even a chance to investigate before cyclists were wanting to hang a driver.

    I see a lot of stupid drivers doing stupid stuff in cars. But I also see a lot of stupid cyclists doing stupid things on bikes. But we end up dead when we do stupid things on bikes.

    And not only stupid things that get us killed, stupid things that give cyclist a bad name. Just yesterday, one of our riders was passing by a couple of peds on the side of the trail, off the pavement in the dirt. He was shouting horribly scaring the crap out of the women. Wow, made me ashamed to be in the group. Luckily he only did it like twice because I was about to same something to him. That is utterly ridiculous.

    Cyclists need to learn how to act to keep themselves safe, as well as others.

    But yeah, too many just don't have a clue. Sad but true!
     
  8. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    Because riding a bike (or motorcycle) can be dangerous, mostly because we don't have sheet metal around us, knowing that, I have no problem when I have the right away to yield it to a car.
     
  9. ACyclingRooster

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    Hi to all of you professors of cycling safety.
    Let us not loose sight of the fact that accidents of any kind do NOT JUST HAPPEN they are CAUSED,there is always a reason and the reason must be continually scanned for,listened for if one does not want to become a statistic.

    They come under the general heading of CAUSE and EFFECT.
     
  10. Mr. Beanz

    Mr. Beanz Well-Known Member

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    Well I am no professor but I did make it to the 4th grade so I know there is only one "o" in "lose". :D:p:D

    As in taught in driving school, 99% of accidents are preventable. Managing my part is the easy part. Controlling the actions of others is the hard part.
     
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  11. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    Oh Mr Beanz, you silly willy, lets not get into correcting spelling and grammar, you want to know why? Because in your very next paragraph, you state: "As in taught in driving school,..." See anything wrong with that statement?
     
  12. Mr. Beanz

    Mr. Beanz Well-Known Member

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    I never said I did well in typing class! :D
     
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