How do you bunny-hop your back wheel up onto the curb?

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  1. b1_

    b1_ New Member

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    How do you bunny-hop your back wheel up onto the curb? I've tried this but with no success so far, and I've been riding a long time.

    Can someone give me some specific tips on this. I just can't get that back wheel up. I can't even do it when I fully strap my feet into my pedals.

    Help.
     
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  2. WKrider

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    Once your front wheel is up the curb, anticipate when your back wheel will hit it. Then just before it does, lean forward and lift with your feet and twist forward on the grips. Once you master one wheel at a time you should be able to "bunny hop" enough to get both wheels up together.
     
  3. b1_

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    I can understand twisting your grips forward - that's something I haven't been doing, but how do you lift with your feet. Unless they're glued to the pedals, or strapped in tight, lifting with feet doesn't seem possible for feet resting on pedals?

    I'm goin' to give it another go...
     
  4. Ratty

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    Consider trying this. If you are off your bike and standing on the ground, how do you jump? Bend your knees, and extend them quickly to give you lift-off. Now, mimic this on your bike, but don't jump off your pedals.

    The idea mentioned above is probably the easiest way to learn as a bunny hop onto a pavement usually requires a small wheelie first, and then a bunny hop off your back tyre.

    It's hard to describe though.
     
  5. gregski

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    This will be kinda tough if you're not using clipless pedals or cages. But who, in their right mind, wouldn't ;)
     
  6. xxguitarist

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    if you're using platform pedals, you will need to tip your feet almost vertical.. toes pointing down, push back against the pedals and you will be able to pull up provided that they have decent grip
     
  7. hippy

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    Forget the toes thing for now. I learned on crappy platform
    pedals by performing a half-endo :)

    Don't worry about doing it on a curb yet, just roll along, lean
    back a little, and then throw your weight forward over the bars. Doing it properly will lift the back wheel. Maybe the toes play a part but I've never even noticed what they are doing when
    hopping curbs, etc.
    Once you can do it on the flat, try it on a curb. Practise to get the
    timing right and you wont ding a rim again. :)

    hth
    hippy
     
  8. origanic

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    I actually just learned bunny hopping as well. I wear SPD clip shoes, so popping up my back wheel is super easy. I can pop the front, then the back, but I have trouble getting the front and the back to go quickly after one another, so usually the back wheel ends up riding up the curb without "bunny hopping" up it like the front wheel.

    Though, if I can offer assistance, it is to just:
    1. Be clipped in :D That way, if you jump, your bike follows
    2. Lean your weight ALL foward
    3. Have your bum off the seat and foward
    4. Twist your grips, like mentioned above.

    Thanks bud! GOOD LUCK!
     
  9. b1_

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    I tried twisting the grips but my back wheel stayed firmly on the ground as usual. I think I know why. When I attempted to jump I didn't actually try to jump in the pedals, as if I was jumping normally without the bike, as ratty mentioned.

    I think I need to roll forward, then lift the front wheel, then before bringing it back down bend the knees and jump forward while twisting and lifting back wheel, like I'm jumping an imaginary bench or something. Hehe :), I ain't never gonna learn this.

    It's all in my head I think. Get that damn back wheel up. Will keep trying.
     
  10. hippy

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    >Originally posted by b1_
    >I tried twisting the grips but my back wheel stayed firmly on
    >the ground as usual. I think I know why. When I attempted
    >to jump I didn't actually try to jump in the pedals, as if I was >jumping normally without the bike, as ratty mentioned.

    Think about this... you can't lift the bike with you on it! Not by
    twisting the grips anyway.. you need to take your weight off the
    bike first. This means you need to 'unweight' the rear wheel.
    Treat this as two separate moves - lifting the front wheel and
    lifting the rear wheel.

    For the rear try rolling along and throw your weight forward,
    thinking about hooking your feet into the pedals. Push down
    and back with your feet to scoop up the back end (I think I do
    this.. couldn't remember before). You can start by popping the
    rear up by a centimetre and work from there.
    If you know how to do the front, then it is just a matter of
    timing them both as you roll up a curb.
    One you have this down, then you can try 'proper' bunnyhops.

    See www.trials-online.com for blushark's awesome FAQ. It has
    a bunnyhop section..

    hth
    hippy
     
  11. DarrylZ

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    Hi
    All the advice has been right, and what you'll find as you get better that you find your own way of doing this. I learnt years ago its purely a weight distribution process.
    So i've never learnt about turning my wrists or such.

    The way i was taught was on grass rolling along not pedaling pull up on the bars transfering all the weight to the rear, and once the wheel is up suddenly transfering the weight forward and pulling on the pedals(if your clipped in)
    It's very much a timing thing.

    At a round of the American MTB championships in Purgatory,Colorado 1992 i saw Brian Lopes bunny hop
    4 foot 3 inches on a bmx bike.

    There is hope for all of us.
     
  12. hippy

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    Trials World Records:

    Stock:
    Discipline Height Rider
    Bunnyhop up onto ledge 175cm Ot Pi
    Bunnyhop over a bar 46 inches (~115cm) Steve Geall
    Sidehop up onto ledge 120 cm Bruno Arnold
    Sidehop over a bar 122cm Bruno Arnold
    Biggest Drop 18.6ft Adam Burns

    Mod:
    Discipline Height Rider
    Bunnyhop up onto ledge 186 cm Andreas Navrade
    Bunnyhop over a bar 130cm Andreas Navrade
    Sidehop up onto ledge 120 cm Bruno Arnold
    Sidehop over a bar 129 cm (51 in) Benito Ros
    Biggest Drop 15ft Ot Pi

    from:
    http://www.trials-uk.com/resources/records/records.html

    Jeff Lenosky @ 45.5 inches:
    http://www.foxracing.com/athletes/lenosky/

    I know there is a video of the Bruno Arnold sidehop-over-bar
    record...

    hippy
     
  13. Trialsman

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    Hello, everyone! Trialsman here, newbie to the forum.

    I wrote a somewhat lengthy and detailed article on this subject and it can be found here:
    http://http://www.discovermountainbiking.com/tr/bn/trbnbalance.asp

    I suggest you read that article and work on flat ground first. Once you learn the proper balance and unweighting technique, you can move on to curbs.

    As was mentioned, you will eventually end up just bunny hopping curbs with your entire bicycle with no concern about front and back wheels.

    Here is an interesting side note since a bunch of observed trials facts have been posted. Combining proper unweighting technique and use of the front brake you can get your bicycle up onto obstacles that are three feet or higher even at low speed. The hardest part is getting the front wheel onto the high obstacle with reliable balance. If you can ride at something and get your front wheel onto the lip of the obstacle, then you can jam your front brake and unweight the back wheel, rock the bike all the way up until your back wheel is high enough, then release the brake and roll forward onto the obstacle. The higher the obstacle the more speed you need going into the trap.

    There are lots of other instructional articles on my site. Take a look!

    Trialsman
     
  14. Trialsman

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  15. J-roc

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    dude, you guys are such big pussies. i can hop onto ledges that are like 2 1/2 tall and my bike weighs like 30lbs. thats seriously weak if you cant manage to get up a curb with a sub 20lbs bike.


    hahahhahahahhahahaha.

    i mean seriously, fags.
     
  16. hippy

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    Nice try troll...

    Now it's time for your mummy to tuck you into bed.. off you go.. bye bye..

    hippy
     
  17. Trialsman

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    J-roc,

    Obviously you fail to take into account that everyone has to start from somewhere, learn a technique, and then improve to get to your level. Of course, your level could be considered pathetic also. I can manage 4 1/2 to 5 feet ledges, and higher on a good day.

    Trialsman
     
  18. Trialsman

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    And they allow people like you on this forum?

    FYI, I stunt ride in baggy shorts.

    Do you have nothing to contribute but hatred?

    Trialsman
     
  19. hippy

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    Trialsman, _ignore_ the troll and it will go away..

    hippy
     
  20. izzodesh

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    ignore this fool you will get there someday too..

    practice on grass...
    just lean forward and pull up with your feet level on the pedals

    also it is VERY VERY easy with speedplay pedals or look pedals...
    and with toe clips it is harder
     
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