How hard is it to BUILD a touring bike?



datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> [...]
> baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>

Mooooooooooooooooooooo

> ifn YOU don't take IT apart and bolt/adjust IT back together then
> where yuo at? NOWHERE THAT;S WHERE.
> Somewhere there's a list of touring frame makers but I lost it. Try
> 'Bruce Gordon'
> the geometeries extend out toward the Plains so to peak as specialty
> building allows discretion, finesse and logic to overtake gross
> debilitiating consumerism.
> and check this out eeyyayayahahhhaa
>
> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/


This is a lot more comfortable looking touring setup:
<http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/rocket/loaded-1.jpg>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
On Apr 6, 12:24 pm, Patrick Lamb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:27:25 -0500, DougC <[email protected]> >
>
> >A touring bike... is a bike with racks. There is a geometry difference
> >with say a road or tri bike, but it's not that great really.

>
> The geometry difference also allows you to use fatter tires, i.e.
> bigger than 700Cx28, which not many non-touring road bikes can handle.
> IMHO they're great for soaking up bumps and rough roads; YMMV. Fatter
> tires also handle heavy loads with aplomb.


Hybrids do. My first 'touring' bike was a Specialized Crossroads (the
CroMo version) with fenders, racks, and drop bars added.

(Actually, I first went for sweptback 'Priest' bars, but after one
tour and four numb fingers I went for drop bars.)
 
On Apr 6, 9:45 pm, Brian Huntley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 12:24 pm, Patrick Lamb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:27:25 -0500, DougC <[email protected]> >

>
> > >A touring bike... is a bike with racks. There is a geometry difference
> > >with say a road or tri bike, but it's not that great really.

>
> > The geometry difference also allows you to use fatter tires, i.e.
> > bigger than 700Cx28, which not many non-touring road bikes can handle.
> > IMHO they're great for soaking up bumps and rough roads; YMMV.  Fatter
> > tires also handle heavy loads with aplomb.

>
> Hybrids do. My first 'touring' bike was a Specialized Crossroads (the
> CroMo version) with fenders, racks, and drop bars added.
>
> (Actually, I first went for sweptback 'Priest' bars, but after one
> tour and four numb fingers I went for drop bars.)


http://planocycling.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=8916 ???

look we're taking names here...
 
On Apr 6, 9:50 pm, datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:45 pm, Brian Huntley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 12:24 pm, Patrick Lamb <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > > On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:27:25 -0500, DougC <[email protected]> >

>
> > > >A touring bike... is a bike with racks. There is a geometry difference
> > > >with say a road or tri bike, but it's not that great really.

>
> > > The geometry difference also allows you to use fatter tires, i.e.
> > > bigger than 700Cx28, which not many non-touring road bikes can handle.
> > > IMHO they're great for soaking up bumps and rough roads; YMMV. Fatter
> > > tires also handle heavy loads with aplomb.

>
> > Hybrids do. My first 'touring' bike was a Specialized Crossroads (the
> > CroMo version) with fenders, racks, and drop bars added.

>
> > (Actually, I first went for sweptback 'Priest' bars, but after one
> > tour and four numb fingers I went for drop bars.)

>
> http://planocycling.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=8916 ???
>
> look we're taking names here...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Here's a hansome rig! Notice nooooo chain guard development. nada
http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/image/89839553
http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/
 
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:27:19 -0500, Tom Sherman
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/

>
>This is a lot more comfortable looking touring setup:
><http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/rocket/loaded-1.jpg>.


Looks like something in between Rube Goldberg and a medieval torture
device.

Do people actually ride those 'bent things?
 
On Apr 7, 10:00 am, still just me <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:27:19 -0500, Tom Sherman
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/

>
> >This is a lot more comfortable looking touring setup:
> ><http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/rocket/loaded-1.jpg>.

>
> Looks like something in between Rube Goldberg and a medieval torture
> device.
>
> Do people actually ride those 'bent things?


FOLLOW THRU AND ROAD TEST ONE
ride over some dog ****
 
In article
<8d8ec5d8-8be1-4eb8-aa75-1d7051324913@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> WELL LOOKEY HERE !!
> this one izza SPORTS-TOURER set up on the TOURER side
>
> http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/image/88887199
>
> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/


Frame looks to be the right size.
No kinky drop bars.
Bars set just so.
A winner.
The rear mud guard is badly undersized;
even the rear mud flap is not sufficient.
The front mud guard needs a mud flap; in front!

Altogether a great set up.
Love the horizontal top tube.

--
Michael Press
 
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's an exact copy (more or less) of the '87
Rampart rebuilt and ridden here. Surly's fork is more forward and a
good thing as the cheap asian import's fork is tooooo quick for
touring.
also seen at the Chinese SF Botique cyclery whose name escapes me.
 
my string was intended as a look at touring geometry, bag sets....the
drops belong to the owner not us.
 
In article
<4f16795f-c0f4-4c24-ad76-04677c12780b@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> my string was intended as a look at touring geometry, bag sets....the
> drops belong to the owner not us.


check

--
Michael Press
 
still just me wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:27:19 -0500, Tom Sherman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/

>> This is a lot more comfortable looking touring setup:
>> <http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/rocket/loaded-1.jpg>.

>
> Looks like something in between Rube Goldberg and a medieval torture
> device.
>
> Do people actually ride those 'bent things?
>

I have a RANS Rocket that I have ridden quite a bit.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> On Apr 7, 10:00 am, still just me <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:27:19 -0500, Tom Sherman
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/
>>> This is a lot more comfortable looking touring setup:
>>> <http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/rocket/loaded-1.jpg>.

>> Looks like something in between Rube Goldberg and a medieval torture
>> device.
>>
>> Do people actually ride those 'bent things?

>
> FOLLOW THRU AND ROAD TEST ONE


I rode my RANS Rocket on a metric century the day after I bought it.

> ride over some dog ****


That is what fenders (mudguards) are for.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:50 pm, datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 9:45 pm, Brian Huntley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 6, 12:24 pm, Patrick Lamb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:27:25 -0500, DougC <[email protected]> >
>>>>> A touring bike... is a bike with racks. There is a geometry difference
>>>>> with say a road or tri bike, but it's not that great really.
>>>> The geometry difference also allows you to use fatter tires, i.e.
>>>> bigger than 700Cx28, which not many non-touring road bikes can handle.
>>>> IMHO they're great for soaking up bumps and rough roads; YMMV. Fatter
>>>> tires also handle heavy loads with aplomb.
>>> Hybrids do. My first 'touring' bike was a Specialized Crossroads (the
>>> CroMo version) with fenders, racks, and drop bars added.
>>> (Actually, I first went for sweptback 'Priest' bars, but after one
>>> tour and four numb fingers I went for drop bars.)

>> http://planocycling.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=8916 ???
>>
>> look we're taking names here...- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Here's a hansome rig! Notice nooooo chain guard development. nada
> http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/image/89839553
> http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/


No fenders/mudguards either.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
Guys I'm unemployed and between jobs.... so went back
to school full time

Therefore money IS tight

BUT... I went out and bought a Novara Randonee for this
summer

I'm having second thoughts and may return it... not
only for the reason that money is tight.... but that
I'm wondering if I can build bike cheaper or if not
cheaper that is better somehow.

I know the frame is the heart and soul of a bike.... if
I bought a GOOD frame could I populate it with low
grade components for use this summer and upgrade when
back to work? I was even thinking I could use
components form a yard sale bike for now.

advice? how to get a good bike but do it in fashion
that makes sense given my financial constraints

I don't mind spending some money as gasoline is so high
right now I'm pretty set on bike riding EVEYWHERE this
summer.... besides just touring and for fun
Take what you have and ride it, tour with it, EVERYWHERE.
You will see lots of interesting things, people, and see what they ride... and even talk to them as to what they have seen, what roads to take (& avoid), where to eat, where to sleep, etc. As you go you will form your own likes and dislikes about the bicycle, hills, sun, rain, wide tires, fenders (or not), etc.
Take a look around the country and you will learn lots. I have ridden over 500,000 miles now and I am still learning and still enjoying the process. The bicycle you choose (or come to like) will be only a small part of the equation.
 
On Apr 7, 4:49 pm, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article
> <8d8ec5d8-8be1-4eb8-aa75-1d7051324...@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:
> > WELL LOOKEY HERE !!
> > this one izza SPORTS-TOURER set up on the TOURER side

>
> >http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/image/88887199

>
> >http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/

>
> Frame looks to be the right size.
> No kinky drop bars.
> Bars set just so.
> A winner.
> The rear mud guard is badly undersized;
> even the rear mud flap is not sufficient.
> The front mud guard needs a mud flap; in front!
>
> Altogether a great set up.
> Love the horizontal top tube.


What tires are those?? To need 60mm fenders on a 700c tire, they gotta
be super wide!
 
On Apr 7, 7:14 pm, landotter <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 4:49 pm, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <8d8ec5d8-8be1-4eb8-aa75-1d7051324...@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

>
> > datakoll <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > WELL LOOKEY HERE !!
> > > this one izza SPORTS-TOURER set up on the TOURER side

>
> > >http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/image/88887199

>
> > >http://www.fullyloadedtouring.com/

>
> > Frame looks to be the right size.
> > No kinky drop bars.
> > Bars set just so.
> > A winner.
> > The rear mud guard is badly undersized;
> > even the rear mud flap is not sufficient.
> > The front mud guard needs a mud flap; in front!

>
> > Altogether a great set up.
> > Love the horizontal top tube.

>
> What tires are those?? To need 60mm fenders on a 700c tire, they gotta
> be super wide!


I don't think those are 700c tires. Just from a glance, It looks like
a 54cm LHT, which uses 559/26" wheels, but its long head tube makes it
look bigger than it is.
 

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