This topic has me considering a reliable firearm as part of my latenight rides. Way too many Methheads here in northern cali.
I think we have a bona-fide smartass here. I must admit this type of commentary is of the type that I enjoy writing myself. However, if you read the original post that spurred this thread on, the gentleman is simply asking a legitimate question. He asks for the opinions of others. I think although you do write with humor intended you're obviously one of those folks that think anyone that would own a gun is some sort of ignorant psychopath. It is unfortunately a fact that we live in a dangerous world where taking a human life is often just a means to an end. I ask these questions to "Hitchy". Have you ever been car-jacked? Have you ever been violently mugged? Have any of your loved ones been the victim of rape? Worse yet at gun or knife point?Hitchy said:G'day,
I carry my AK 47 when i train or race. Don't you try & tell me I shouldn't...I've got a god given right to prptect my family & my trailer against those god damn commies, terrorists, goody two shoes, volvo driving scumbags that wanna take it off me...god damn, you wanna make something of it?...where you at muther?...I'm coming 'round to your tariler & I'm gunna shoot yo' full of holes....Go damn.....now where was I?..Oh yeah...I carry my ak47 & sometimes take my RPG launcher too.....I know they are coming after me!.......gotta protect my family & my trailer, going on springer next week!..."So I married my AK47".......It comes in handy during a race...don't you god damn get in my way...."YO' you come back here mofo...don't you be dropping me on no climbs.....I ain't outta bullets yet.....got more at the next feed stop...plenty of jack daniels in the bidon.......Did you have trouble getting bike racks to fit your hummer?......MOFO government, can you believe they let someone other than an American win bikes races?.......I like Lance, he's from TExas ya know...bet he's got an AK 47 too!
NORECUMYET said:I think we have a bona-fide smartass here. I must admit this type of commentary is of the type that I enjoy writing myself. However, if you read the original post that spurred this thread on, the gentleman is simply asking a legitimate question. He asks for the opinions of others. I think although you do write with humor intended you're obviously one of those folks that think anyone that would own a gun is some sort of ignorant psychopath. It is unfortunately a fact that we live in a dangerous world where taking a human life is often just a means to an end. I ask these questions to "Hitchy". Have you ever been car-jacked? Have you ever been violently mugged? Have any of your loved ones been the victim of rape? Worse yet at gun or knife point?
I know you probably have a difficult time with this concept but these things actually do happen. They happen VERY often as a matter of FACT.
Another post to the Thread That Never Dies. "Very Often" is a relative term. There is less than .1% of the population involved in a violent crime in any given week, but we have a lot of people here. I think the biggest part of our problem is from the Aussies who emigrate to the US specifically so that they can legally possess AK47s .ProfTournesol said:Oh dear. If there's a criminal waiting to rape or shoot you or your loved ones VERY OFTEN, or at least you seem to have a good chance of meeting one on every ride or your family will be raped and murdered whilst you are out on your morning ride, why are you riding at all? Why are you living there? You'd be better moving to somewhere safer like Baghdad.
kdelong said:Another post to the Thread That Never Dies. "Very Often" is a relative term. There is less than .1% of the population involved in a violent crime in any given week, but we have a lot of people here. I think the biggest part of our problem is from the Aussies who emigrate to the US specifically so that they can legally possess AK47s .
Agreed, if it got to the stage where I needed to ride with a gun, it's simple I just wouldn't rideProfTournesol said:sounds like there's an armed Aussie waiting for every cyclist and robbing every home. We have crime here, we have murders here, but if I ever felt that I needed a gun to ride safely, I'd either move or emigrate. I'd certainly make sure that I voted!
I guess it's all a matter of the odds and what risks you are willing to accept.Scotttri said:Agreed, if it got to the stage where I needed to ride with a gun, it's simple I just wouldn't ride
Been done before ...Phill P said:Hey now theres another marketing idea......
a semi auto rifle that fits along the seat tube or top tube like a hand pump. Could be good for MTBers in bear/cat country.
You seem to find my statement that rapes and muggings are common occurrences to be erroneous, or that I live in a bad neighborhood therefore causing the rate to be artificially elevated. Apparently you don't watch the news, read a newspaper, or listen to a radio. You don't carry a weapon because you fear that a criminal waits for you on every ride. You carry one because of once in a blue moon situations. Do you drive without insurance? If not why? Is it because accidents only happen in relatively rare instances? Or do you do without because you live in such un upscale area? (Poser) You know better than that. At least I hope you do. Also, the neighborhood you live in has absolutely nothing to do with this. Crime happens everywhere. Out in the middle of nowhere is a place you are most at risk. I think the original post in this thread was speaking of that kind of situation. Oh and thank you for referring to me as an idiot. You know I've never in my life had someone try to make fun of me for using "experience" as a weapon in a debate. Most people with any wisdom under their belt at all KNOW that EXPERIENCE is the greatest teacher of all. Obviously Mr. Experience and you are not acquainted.ProfTournesol said:Oh dear. If there's a criminal waiting to rape or shoot you or your loved ones VERY OFTEN, or at least you seem to have a good chance of meeting one on every ride or your family will be raped and murdered whilst you are out on your morning ride, why are you riding at all? Why are you living there? You'd be better moving to somewhere safer like Baghdad. Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
I guess life must be nothing more than a journey through Utopia where you live. I know for myself I'm moving to rural New England where they check you at the border for criminal history, weapons, and HIV. I'm pretty sure you also can't enter if your not the right shade of white there as well. I can't speak for South Korea. Maybe things there really are THAT different than here. To repeat myself from another post though. Some of the scariest situations I've ever been in have been when out in the middle of nowhere.Karl Hungus said:I thought this was a "joke" thread.
Damn, guess I am glad that I live in South Korea currently and in rural New England before that.
Carry a weapon while riding has never even crossed my mind (And I've deployed with Special Forces to some crazy places in my Army career. It's not like I have never carried or fired a weapon.)
Time to move or find a new place to ride if you seriously worry about your safety to the point that you feel you need to carry a psitol on your ride!
Yeah, some of us who aren't lucky enough to live in Ottawa just like to continue to breath. If you are confronted by a lumberjack who is all liquored up and intent on killing someone during one of your rides, you will wish that you had one and knew how to use it.Fudge Monkey said:I live in Ottawa, Canada.
The idea of packing a gun for a bike ride is revolting, ediotic, repulsive, rediculous, retarded and offensive.
The fact that some people either support or practice this idea is a testimony to how SICK parts of the world have become. Blaming other sick segments of society to justify doing so may seem reasonable to simple minded, like minded sickos. The rest of us on the outside looking in see you for what you are.
All this time i thought cycling enthusiasts were a different breed.
It's clear there are exceptions to every rule.
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