How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

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  1. paichuu

    paichuu New Member

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    I dоn't carry a weapon personally, but havе bеen tempted tо оn occasion. Never reаllу an option hеre in Australia though aѕ it іs highly illegal in аll states and quite difficult tо gеt hold оf a handgun in thе fіrst place. The worst thing out training in Australia іѕ dogs thаt аrеn't tied up or on а leash аnd Magpies (bird) during mating/nesting season. They tend to swoop anythіng аnd evеrything аnd althоugh they dont verу oftеn cauѕe injuries thеy often clip the helmet аnd оr ears and a bullet would definіtеly stop mе swerving trуing to avoid them......and the cars tryіng to avoid me!
     


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    Well, I honestly dоn't think Europeans сan comment on thе carrying of firearms in the U.S. You hаve nо idea what kind оf culture (or lack thereof) wе havе over hеrе in ѕome neighborhoods. There are people (many оf them just kids) that wоuld kill you for your tennis shoes оver here. The inner city gangs grow larger every day and it's оnly gоing to get worse not better. The U.S. hаs morе people іn prison/jail per capita thаn anу of thе оther industrialized countries. It's sad but it'ѕ a fact. We need tо protect оurѕеlves here. It's not about being likе John Wayne or being macho. It's practically а necessity here.

    Although I don't carry whеn I ride, I kеер а loaded shotgun by my bed. I bought іt when I lived in Atlanta Georgia wherе the crime аnd murder rates arе disgustingly high. Thank God mу job gоt outsourced tо India and I moved tо а mоrе sane place! All I need to worry аbоut hеre arе idiot drivers. Talk аbout а lethal weapon ... а driver bеhind the wheel оf 2500 Lbs оf automobile that's not paying attention (or drunk!) ... now that'ѕ a lethal weapon!!!

    And I know it dоeѕn't make sense, but the places wіth thе strictest gun control laws аre the mоѕt violent and crime laden places tо be. Washington DC hаs bеen thе murder capitol of the country on and оff fоr years. L.A. іѕ anоthеr place I wouldn't gеt wіthin 100 miles of.
     
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    Its been nasty here also snow,ice, cold now rain. More snow, otherwise being refered to by most now as white shit, tonight.
     
  4. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Quote by paichuu:
    "The worst thing out training in Australia іѕ dogs thаt аrеn't tied up or on а leash..."

    I think rural America leads the world in the category of dogs running at large. Personally, they've taken me down 3 times with serious injuries.

    In none of those instances could I have deployed my pistol effectively in time to have prevented the crashes. And none of the dogs were threatening after the crash. In fact, all were friendly mutts...after the fact.

    It's sometimes the mutt that needs dealt with, but always the owners that need to pay up for the damages caused.


    "аnd Magpies (bird) during mating/nesting season. They tend to swoop anythіng аnd evеrything аnd althоugh they dont verу oftеn cauѕe injuries thеy often clip the helmet аnd оr ears and a bullet would definіtеly stop mе swerving trуing to avoid them......"

    It would take a very skilled and well practiced pistol shooter to score hits on a magpie on the wing. That's an application for a shotgun!

    And after seeing how many magpies attack in Oz I would recommend a full-auto, belt-fed shotgun with radar aiming system!
     
  5. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    The following quote is very well stated and needs repeated in bold faced type.

    Quote by paichuu:

    Well, I honestly dоn't think Europeans сan comment on thе carrying of firearms in the U.S. You hаve nо idea what kind оf culture (or lack thereof) wе havе over hеrе in ѕome neighborhoods. There are people (many оf them just kids) that wоuld kill you for your tennis shoes оver here. The inner city gangs grow larger every day and it's оnly gоing to get worse not better. The U.S. hаs morе people іn prison/jail per capita thаn anу of thе оther industrialized countries. It's sad but it'ѕ a fact. We need tо protect оurѕеlves here. It's not about being likе John Wayne or being macho. It's practically а necessity here.

    Although I don't carry whеn I ride, I kеер а loaded shotgun by my bed. I bought іt when I lived in Atlanta Georgia wherе the crime аnd murder rates arе disgustingly high. Thank God mу job gоt outsourced tо India and I moved tо а mоrе sane place! All I need to worry аbоut hеre arе idiot drivers. Talk аbout а lethal weapon ... а driver bеhind the wheel оf 2500 Lbs оf automobile that's not paying attention (or drunk!) ... now that'ѕ a lethal weapon!!!

    And I know it dоeѕn't make sense, but the places wіth thе strictest gun control laws аre the mоѕt violent and crime laden places tо be. Washington DC hаs bеen thе murder capitol of the country on and оff fоr years. L.A. іѕ anоthеr place I wouldn't gеt wіthin 100 miles of.
     
  6. lordrenly

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    Well, I live in a state with a stricter gun control law and I cannot do concealed and carry here but even if I could carry guns with me, I would not carry them while riding my bike because it would interfere in some way with my riding. Unless I carried a backpack or had a detachable compartment on my bike, I would not even consider carrying guns with me. Even then, I would be slightly worried about the safety of the whole thing.

    I agree though that people that come from another culture might feel strange about people carrying guns as they please but as a poster before me said, think of it as a self defense thing instead of a malicious thing.
     
  7. ambal

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    yeah most of us just don't get this BS
     
  8. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Bicycle Ball! Batter up!

    http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/Lexington-cyclist-assaulted-with-car-door-289125121.html

    Lexington cyclist assaulted with car door



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    LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - Lexington police are looking for the people who, they say, intentionally crashed into a cyclist.

    Police say a cyclist was traveling down Jennifer Road and Eastland Parkway around 4:30 a.m.

    The cyclist told police that he heard a car speed up behind him. Police say a passenger in a white car opened a back door which hit the cyclist as the car passed.

    The impact caused the rear passenger window to shatter. The cyclist was not seriously injured and was not taken to the hospital.

    Police have not released detailed descriptions of the suspects.
     
  9. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Contrary to popular libtard thought...you are NOT at the top of the food chain.

    tldr: wolf almost gets to have cyclist with bear spray flavor for breakfast.

    Moral of story: Carry a damn pistol when going among the beasts!


    TUESDAY, JULY 9, 2013, 8:53 A.M.
    http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/

    Sandpoint cyclist survives tense wolf encounter on Al-Can Highway
    [​IMG]Point to Bay riders Jordan Achilli, Gabe Dawson and Mac Hollan are bicycling from Sandpoint, Idaho, to Prudhoe Bay in the summer of 2013 to raise money for a Sandpoint schools charity. (courtesy)


    UPDATE, July 14, 10 a.m. -- See photos of the wolf attacking the bike and an account from the RVer who helped rescue cyclist Mac Hollan from the wolf's relentless pursuit. Also, I've interviewed one of the motorist heroes who drove the wolf away from Hollan's bike. Read her account of the story in today's Outdoors column. -- RL

    BICYCLE TOURING -- A Sandpoint, Idaho, man and two companions riding bicycles on a 2,750-mile tour to Prudhoe Bay as a fundraiser for a school charity had a tense encounter with a gray wolf last weekend.
    • This is similar to a recent incident in Canada, except for one big difference: the man from Banff was riding a motorcycle.
    Mac Hollan, 35, who will be student teaching at a Sandpoint elementary school this fall, posted this chilling detailed account on his Point to Bay Facebook page on Monday.

    Two days ago I was attacked by a wolf while riding down the ALCAN. With all the planning for bears, road safety, and everything else, this scenario was something that none of us had ever considered. But, if you read on you will find out how I found myself alone on my bike being chased down and attacked by a Canadian Gray Wolf.

    It was around 2:30, about 60 miles west of Watson Lake on the ALCAN,... I was a bit ahead of the guys when I heard something to my right. Thinking Gabe or Gordo had caught up without me noticing I looked over my shoulder and was shocked at what I saw. The first thought that ran through my head was "that is the biggest damn dog I have ever seen!". This surreal moment of shock and confusion passed immediately was the "dog" lunged for my right foot and snapped its jaws just missing my pedal.

    WOLF!!! At this point I received the biggest jolt of adrenalin I have ever had in my life. Without so much as a thought I shifted my bike to the highest gear possible, started to mash the pedals like never before, and reached for the bear spray in the handlebar bag. I threw off the safety and gave the wolf a quick blast in the face which served to slow him down so that he was now 20 feet behind me but still not stopping. He hung back for maybe 20 seconds and then raced forward and attacked my panniers, in the process ripping my tent bag and spilling my poles onto the highway.
    I gave him another shot of pepper spray, which again backed him off to about 20 feet behind. Despite pedaling like I have never pedaled before, the wolf kept pace with me easily. It was at this point that I saw an 18 wheeler round the corner and began to wave, shout, and point to the wolf frantically. As he slowed I began to breathe a sigh of relief, thinking if I could just get off my bike and into the truck fast enough I would be safe. After taking a good look at the scene the driver resumed his speed and drove on.

    This same scenario would happen to me 4 separate times, with my desperation growing with each car that passed me by. Every time the wolf would begin to close on me again, I would shoot a quick blast of bear spray behind me to slow him down.

    As I came around the corner, to my horror I saw a quick incline, and knew that I would not be able to stay in front of this wolf for much longer. I just kept thinking about all the shows I have seen where wolves simply run their prey until they tire and then finish them. It was a surreal moment to realize that I was that prey, and this hill was that moment. The only plan I could think of was to get off my bike, get behind it, and hope that I had enough bear spray to deter him once and for all when he got close enough.

    It was also at this point that I realized I might not be going home, and I began to panic at the thought of how much it was going to hurt. About .2 mile before the hill an RV came around the corner, and I knew this was it. I placed myself squarely in the center of the road and began screaming at the top of my lungs "help me, there's a wolf, please help me" while waving frantically. Seeing the situation the driver quickly passed me and stopped on a dime right in front of my bike. I don't know how I got unclipped or off my bike, but I swear I hurdled the handlebars without missing a beat or letting go of my can of bear spray. When I got to the backdoor of the RV still screaming, the door was locked. In an absolute panic I began to climb in the passenger window, but the driver reached across and threw the door open to let me in. By the time I shut the door the wolf was already on my bike pulling at the shredded remains of my tent bag. I began to shake, and cuss.
    More cars began to pull up and honk at the wolf, but he would not leave my bike, as though he thought it was his kill. It took someone finally beaning him in the head with a rock to get him to leave. At this point Gabe and Gordo showed up looking confused and concerned with a set of shattered tent poles in hand. While I know I got the names of the man and woman who saved me, for the life of me I can't remember them now. I do remember the woman giving me a hug that felt like the greatest hug of my life.

    Still jacked on adrenalin, all I wanted to do was get out of that place, and get out fast. The folks in the RV were nice enough to watch our backs as we got a ways down the road before leaving, and gave one final wave as they passed by. I gave them a card for the ride and I hope they are reading this so that they know how much I am in their debt and how grateful I am that they stopped to save me. Otherwise I honestly don't think this story would have ended well.

    We made it about 10 miles down the road before the full adrenalin rush wore off and then everything seemed to go into slow motion and I just felt dizzy and tired. We pulled over to a roadside creek where I stumbled down to splash water on my face and basically sat in the creek and lost my s%$t. The full implication of what had just happened to me sank in, and I just lost it for a good 15 minutes.

    We have spent a lot of time talking about the incident since, and the only conclusion we can come up with is that the wolf was old, sick, or injured, to be chasing something down on the highway. I would not doubt I am the first cyclist ever to have this happen to them on the ALCAN. That being said I have tried not to let this experience change my positive feelings about being out here, but I do look over my shoulder more, and am a bit jumpy.

    While other things have happened since the last update, this is all I can really remember. We're in Whitehorse, Yukon now, having pulled off a century before 2:30. We're planning on doing some bike work here and relaxing for the afternoon. That's all for now.
     
  10. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Cyclist attacked and beaten by multiple thugs on Mt. Lemmon, Arizona:

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    Watch the video at the above link.


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    A shoe, a blouse and earphones were collected by Pima County Sheriff's deputies investigating an assault of a cyclist this week on Mount Lemmon.









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    A shoe, a blouse and earphones were collected by Pima County Sheriff's deputies investigating an assault of a cyclist this week on Mount Lemmon.
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    A 24-year-old bicyclist was hit and kicked after he confronted a group of men who he said threw an object at him while he rode his bike up Mount Lemmon last week.

    The victim suffered minor injuries, and did not need medical attention after the Oct. 1 assault, said Deputy Tom Peine, a Pima County Sheriff’s Department spokesman.

    Deputies responded to East Snyder Road and Catalina Highway after the victim reported that he was assaulted by three men. He told deputies that he was riding up Mount Lemmon when a silver car with a sunroof passed him at about milepost 1, said Peine.

    While the vehicle passed the bicyclist, an object— possibly a soda can — was thrown out through the sunroof and hit the bicyclist in the head, Peine said. The bicyclist then followed the vehicle down the mountain and caught up to it at Snyder and Catalina Highway.

    The vehicle pulled over, three men climbed out and a confrontation followed with the trio punching and kicking the bicyclist, Peine said. He said a passerby captured the attack on video.

    A woman got out of the vehicle and yelled at them to get back into the car. The victim grabbed the woman’s shirt, and it came off, Peine said. He said one of the men also lost his shoe while kicking the victim. A set of headphones belonging to one of the assailants also was left at the scene, Peine said.

    The woman and men returned to their vehicle and it sped off towards North Houghton Road, said Peine.

    Detectives with the robbery/assault unit are investigating the incident, and ask that anyone who can identify the assailants or have information about the assault call 911 or 88-CRIME.

    http://tucson.com/news/blogs/police-beat/video-cyclist-attacked-on-mount-lemmon-contains-foul-language/article_b29e584e-5009-11e4-a0ae-6ff593e2e03f.html






    Victim?
    Or Victor?

    You decide which you will be.
     
  11. ambal

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    You're a freakin nutter Bob
     
  12. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    You are seriously confused.

    The unarmed, scared and defenseless cyclist trying to dive through the window of the motorhome with a wolf chewing on his ass is a nutter.

    The outnumbered cyclist laying on the roadside of Mount Lemmon while a pack of thugs was kicking him hard enough to lose shoes is a nutter.

    A nutter is someone going through life blissfully unaware, totally unprepared and willing putting himself in line to be the subject of the next post in this thread.

    Victim?
    Or Victor?
    You decide.
     
  13. Rhodolite

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    Where I live if you don't want to be a victim, then you carry.
     
  14. ambal

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    LOL

    Kick it and rip it bi_thes
     
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    It just takes practice! And a 7.62 x 39 Simonov rifle! Camouflage optional.

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    Today's PSA from Campy: If you are going to CCW please use a holster.




    Florida Cyclist Dies After Gun in Pocket Goes Off Accidentally







    A cyclist died after accidentally shooting himself on Thursday afternoon, police said.

    Troy Earl Smith Jr., 25, was found lying on a street in St. Petersburg, Florida, with a gunshot wound to the chest. He later was pronounced dead at a local hospital.



    After reviewing video from nearby businesses and talking to witnesses, detectives determined that Smith was riding his bike when the handgun he was carrying in his jacket pocket discharged.



    - Shamar Walters


    • Florida Cyclist Dies After Gun in Pocket Goes Off Accidentally



    First published March 13th 2015, 6:50 am
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-man-dies-after-gun-goes-during-bike-ride-cops-n322771
     
  19. 6fhscjess

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    Yup, using a holster is the best way to prevent something like this from happening.
     
  20. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    The article is light on details, Jess, but I'm guessing the 'cyclist' was from a sketchy background.

    Facebook posts say the deceased did not have a CCW permit and that the BATFE was running the firearm.
     
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