How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by Joe West, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    I assume the bear sprays you with the pepper spray for seasoning right before it eats you alive?

    What caliber is a "self-defense key chain"?
     


  2. sunshiney

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    It's a keychain that loops around your fingers and has two pointy bits in case someone decides to try to carry you off and rape you...it's also designed in such a way to collect DNA from your assailant. Kind of like how many women walk out to their cars at night with their keys between their fingers, except it's made specifically for self defense.

    It's not the best but it's something, and as someone who has been violently assaulted it makes me feel better that I've got some kind of recourse if someone decides to get grabby and violent. Again. Most of the women I know carry something similar.

    Bear spray is just a more widely available (at least where I live) version of pepper spray. And, for me at least, it's not for bears. It's a little extra self defense for a small woman who could be easily overpowered by a strange man. Again.

    And like I said, luckily I've never had to use either...but I've also been in a situation where I wish I had had some form of defense, and didn't. I'm not going to let myself be in that position again.

    Thanks for the vote of confidence though.
     
  3. jhuskey

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    Excuse Bob, he has been trying to be a rape victim for years now. Come to think about it , so have I. Maybe I need to stop more in dark alleys.
     
  4. sunshiney

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    I know you're joking, but for the past five years I've struggled with PTSD and physical problems as a result of being violently sexually assaulted, and it's made my life a living hell that I wouldn't wish on anyone. If you want to be raped so bad I'd gladly trade places with you. Sorry. I think it's best that I just bow out of this conversation.
     
  5. CAMPYBOB

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    I would rather struggle for years with the PTSD resulting from putting 8 hollow points on target than struggle with the PTSD of being violently sexually assaulted.

    Pepper spray and even CS gas just pisses people off. It rarely deters even amateur criminals and has no effect on a determined career criminal and most guys doing recreational drugs.

    Neither do the gazillion CCTV cameras in the big city that have the news channels constantly posting grainy pics of the latest rapist...the 'Bicycle Rapist'...the 'Sidewalk Rapist'...the Commuter Train' rapist...

    Getting the DNA will add one more piece of evidence to the court case, but nothing much in the way of preventing or stopping attackers.

    Good luck with your PTSD and physical recovery.
     
  6. sunshiney

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    I live in Canada. It's extremely difficult to get licensing to own a handgun, and even if I did, as a restricted firearm I would need an ATT (authorized to transport) ticket from a provincial firearms officer, which is nearly impossible to obtain unless you work outside in the remote wilderness, or as an armoured car guard.

    I suppose I could tote around my uncle's hunting rifle but somehow that doesn't seem terribly realistic.
     
  7. jhuskey

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    Don't mistake my sense of humor for being insensitive. I think I can speak for Bob in saying either one of us would come to the aid of person in distress. I have done it more than once in a situation where someone was taking advantage of a weaker individual. On another note of misery all of us in the ski business are sitting here in the East on Christmas Eve in 60- 70 F weather in torrential rain.
     
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    The three area 'resorts' (maybe last resorts?) are currently open for...Spring hiking season, mountain biking, wine tastings, an art show...

    You might as well fly West, JH and find the white stuff in the Rockies.

    The 10-day is nothing but one big chance of rain with temps in the mid 40's to 50's...not that I'm bitching mind you.
     
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    January 1 looks colder. We will see but in the mean time I am getting in road time between the rain showers.
     
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    "I live in Canada. It's extremely difficult to get licensing to own a handgun, and even if I did, as a restricted firearm I would need an ATT (authorized to transport) ticket from a provincial firearms officer, which is nearly impossible to obtain unless you work outside in the remote wilderness, or as an armoured car guard."

    Your right to self-defense are NOT derived from any government or socialist toady that draws breath upon the face of this good Earth.

    That right is given to you by your Creator.
     
  11. jhuskey

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    Merry Christmas Bob.
     
  12. Jcycle

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    You know that simply isn't the case. It is a hotly debated issue across the nation you are in and rightly so.
     
  13. CAMPYBOB

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    Our Constitution ended all debate.

    It enumerated the right God gave us. Fvck be upon socialist libtard morons.
     
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    There is nothing to debate. Even without the second amendment, which is there to stay, the horse is out of the barn. There is no way to confiscate guns at this point.
     
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    With freedom comes risk and danger. And I prefer freedom to risk and danger.

    I didn't ride today, but I had a pistol on my hip all afternoon. I felt...like a free man.
     
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    Why carry a gun if you have never experienced something bad. I suggest you should avoid carrying a gun if you are serious with cycling. Always ride when you feel comfortable and where you can't encounter any problems. Will you be shooting at your enemies while riding or you are always out for a shooting spree?
     
  17. jhuskey

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    I don' t carry a gun while cycling , however why have a fire extinguisher if you have never used one? If I felt the need I would carry.
     
  18. CAMPYBOB

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    Why carry? Because your life can be in ended anytime, anywhere. Be prepared.

    Victim or Victor? You decide.


    http://www.krdo.com/news/colorado-springs-neighborhood-honors-cyclist-who-was-shot-killed/36192864
    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -

    People in a Colorado Springs neighborhood are honoring the life of a bicyclist who was shot and killed Saturday.

    Naomi Bettis and other residents, said they didn’t know the cyclist, but that didn’t keep them from paying their respects.

    “We put flowers together to show how bad we feel that the victim had to die like this,” she said.

    Before the first shooting happened, Bettis saw a neighbor acting suspicious.

    “I watched him for a while and seen that it wasn’t right. He looked right at me…I started walking away and I was like, ‘Please don’t shoot me,'” she said.

    She said when the shooter spared her life, there was a moment she wishes never happened.

    “This kid was coming around the corner on a bike. He lifted up his rifle and shot him. I heard three shots,” Bettis said.

    Investigators said the biker was murdered on the 200 block of North Prospect Drive near downtown Colorado Springs, setting off a deadly chain of events. Two women were also shot, apparently by the same man, in the area of E. Platte Avenue and El Paso Street. The rampage ended on Platte and Wahsatch avenues, where officers shot and killed the shooter.

    The El Paso County Sheriff’s Office said it is in a challenging situation. Deputies were not available to go on camera but a public information officer said the crime scene covers 10 blocks. The officer also said even though deputies are helping Colorado Springs police, deputies have to remain unbiased while conducting their own investigation into the officer-involved shooting.

    Bettis said she’s lucky to be alive.

    “He had a chance and he chose not to shoot me,” she said.

    Sheriff’s deputies are asking anyone on Platte and Wahsatch that received any damage to their homes or vehicles as a result of the shooting to call the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office at 719-390-5555.
     
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    Anywhere. Anytime.



    http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/29968343/cyclist-shot-almost-hit-on-poplar-avenue
    MEMPHIS, TN (WMC) -

    Police are still searching for the person who shot a cyclist in the 3300 block of Poplar Avenue after nearly running him over with a white SUV.

    Police said the 60-year-old cyclist exchanged words with four people inside the SUV, possibly Nissan. One of the people in the vehicle pulled out a gun and shot at the cyclist.

    First responders took him to the hospital in non-critical condition.

    Cyclists are allowed on all city streets. They have the same rules as drivers. Though there are several places in the city designed for cyclists, most have to share the road.

    Stuart Johnson spent Labor Day riding the Broad Avenue Hampling, but most days, he said he can be found commuting to work.

    “I've only had one encounter with a rude motorist,” Johnson said. “So far I've had pretty good luck here.”

    Most mornings, Johnson battles the road like any other cyclist, except one time he tried to make a left turn.

    “The driver leans on the horn as flips me a bird as she drives by,” he said.

    That was much better than the bullet the 60-year-old received Saturday night.

    Pat Tronsor, a motorist and a cyclist, said while no rider should ever be shot, riding down a narrow, busy road like Poplar is not his first choice.

    “I'm not going to tell anybody to not ride somewhere, but certainly would make more sense to stay on a less traveled road,” he said. “It would be safer.”

    Bike clubs across the Mid-South remind drivers to travel with a light at night and learn the proper ways to signal.

    Police have not made any arrests yet.
     
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    Anywhere. Anytime.

    http://www.wthr.com/story/5024447/police-seek-suspect-in-cyclist-shooting-death
    Indianapolis - Police have a suspect in the shooting of a bicyclist in broad daylight.

    It happened late Monday afternoon on 26th Street near Capitol Avenue. Police say 38-year-old Donald Bacon was riding his bike west on 26th street when someone shot him.

    Latin Caldwell lives and grew up on the near north side. She arrived home Monday afternoon right after someone shot and killed 37-year-old Donald Bacon. "I could see it from my window - the body - the face," said Caldwell. "It's very alarming. The neighborhood is trying to do better. I don't tell people where I am. I say off Capitol or off Illinois."

    "A work type van with three black males got out who we suspect as Tyrone Hull and fired one shot at our victim striking him in the head," explained Major Lloyd Crowe."

    IPD Homicide detectives believe 20-year-old Tyrone Hull, an acquaintance of the victim, is the gunman. They want to question Hull about the shooting.

    As detectives investigate this murder family and friends attended a vigil for Friday's murder victim Antwan Davis. Boys and camp leaders from Young Men Inc prayed with Davis' mother and father. Police say somebody shot and killed Davis here at 26th and Olney. Davis was remembered in prayer.

    To remember murder victim Donald Bacon family and friends left a torch burning. And like Latin Caldwell people here on the west side want his killer held accountable, too.

    "Just surrender yourself. I think that's just the humane thing to do," said Caldwell

    Although Homicide detectives name Hull as the shooter, they have not named a motive in the case.

    Homicide detectives here at IPD Headquarters believe Tyrone Hull used a long barrel gun. They do believe he knew Donald Bacon.

    If you know the suspects' whereabouts call crime stoppers. The telephone number is 262-TIPS.
     
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