How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by Joe West, Oct 2, 2004.

  1. lyotard

    lyotard New Member

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    as is common, some would be said to maximize if not exagerate the facts while others would seek to minimize and categorize by relative moralism. both these stances fail in delivering any message conclusively as they are not impartial by any means.
    this because of the passionate allegiance to one-sided mindset and the subjectivity this causes.
    the accurate objective truth then, would lie somewhere in between.




     


  2. teton explorer

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    If we outlaw bathtubs, only outlaws will have bathtubs.
     
  3. teton explorer

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    Wasn't Collateral Damage a Steven Segal or Bruce Willis movie? If so, I wouldn't vote in favor of it.
     
  4. teton explorer

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    According to the NGTA (National Golf Tee Association - a subsidiary of the NRA), golf tees don't kill people; people (banging them into another person's temple) do. In the immortal words of Charlton Heston, "if you outlaw golf tees, only outlaws will have golf tees," and "you'll get my golf tee from me when you pry it from my cold dead hands."
     
  5. teton explorer

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    Do any of you carry bathtubs or golf tees when you ride. I know that where I live you can carry a bathtub without a permit, but I"m not sure about golf tees.
     
  6. MountainPro

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    Nein, i am not trying to discredit anyone. I love America and American people, i only said what i said because it is what i have heard Americans say to me. When i have been there an dthey ask where my accent is from...they say, hey Braveheart right?, sorry all i know about scotland is what i have seen in Braveheart, Rob Roy etc...which is perfectly understandable if you have never sampled the culture in person.

    All i knew about america was what i have seen in the movies until i visited. So the statement about Hollywood could also have been directed at myself a few years ago.

    I dont know much about Hollywood productions but i have been to Hollywood...have you been to Hadrian's Wall?
     
  7. MountainPro

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    If it is in the NGTA handbook then we must respect that. I would be a dire world if only outlaws were allowed to have golf tees.

    Golf would cease to exist....which might not be a bad thing actually.
     
  8. gudel

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    does anyone know if there's an holster to be used in bikes? looking for one that would fit HK USP45 and Beretta 92FS.
     
  9. artemidorus

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    The "Welsh", per se, didn't exist at all at the time of the Romans; this name is an Old English (Anglo-Saxon) word meaning "foreigner" - what a joke, called foreigners in their own country!
    What I meant, calling the Britanni the Welsh, was that the peoples of the island of Britain were the group of tribes that ultimately were pushed into modern Wales, and Cornwall, by the invading Teutonics, and the invading Scots in the North. The language orignially spoken in what is now modern Scotland was an archaic form of the language that is now called Welsh, and not Gaelic, which was imported from Ireland.
     
  10. Nein11

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    mountain pro,

    my bad then for jumping to conclusions.

    i have not had the pleasure of visiting scotland yet.

    while i am by no means a world traveler, i have been to quite a few european and eastern european countries. i love to learn about and experience other peoples culture and history.

    i also love american culture and (short) history. hence the kneejerk reaction to some peoples blanket statements about the US. i believe that just because i dont agree with some of the decisions that my government makes, i dont have to become an apologist. i believe that the less government the better and the more rights that are preserved the better off we are.
     
  11. Nein11

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    apparently being in the top 1% doesn't make you any more able to read. i already said that i don't deny being affected by the media.

    due to your condecending attitude i dont believe i am capable of, nor am i interested in, "convincing" you of anything.
     
  12. MountainPro

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    well researched, I learned something today...:D
     
  13. bloke911

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    I would NEVER :eek: Shoot a gun when I'm riding!!!!!! Are you guys crazy?:( It is absolutely impossible to shoot with any accuracy when you ride.
    What a dumb question! Where do you come up with this stuff?:confused:
     
  14. MountainPro

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    no problems buddy,

    sorry for the misunderstanding..

    i do not judge you by the actions of your government...


     
  15. pgfiveoh

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    As a police officer in the DC area, I started out riding with my Sig P239 (compact 9mm). As I progressed as a cyclist, my thinking changed too. I stopped carrying. I just remain aware of my surroundings. It sure is more convenient to not carry!
     
  16. BikingRyan

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    I have done a lot of backpacking and some of the people that you run into in these remote places lead me to believe that 'protection' is a must - I am sure long distance biking is no different.

    People do wacked out shit when in the 'wilderness' - and mace/pepper spray may not stop thier aggressions, nor would I want them to get close enough to me to use a knife. If you are properly trained to use an appropriate fire arm, I see no reason not to carry.
     
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    In florida i think the rule is that if u want to carry a gun in public at all u have to have a permit and it has to be concealed.
     
  18. McSpin

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    I read a couple pages of this thread and then realized I didn't have the month it would take to read it all.... so I may be repeating someone else.

    A pistol can be a very useful item and I have a permit to carry one. I've never felt the need for one when I ride, but that's just because I don't feel threatened where I ride. However, I fully support the right for anyone to carry one while riding, who feels they need the protection. There is no law that says they have to use it or even present it, no matter the situation. It's a judgement that they have the right to make depending on the situation.

    I would like to clear up some things that I read here. First, no one I know is carrying with the intention of shooting anyone. Their first line of defense is to simply scare away someone who is threatening them physically. 99% of the time an antagonist will simply leave when presented with the option of approaching someone with a gun. Nobody who is sane, is going to pull a gun and just blow someone away. It's main purpose is to let the attacker know that the odds may not be on their side, and that backing off is the prudent thing to do.

    Of course, everyone who has a gun should be trained and educated thoroughly on it's use. Sure, they can be dangerous and accidents can happen, but this is true of many things. Far more children die in swimming pools than get killed by a gun. I don't see any groups out to ban swimming pools. The same analogy can be made with many other dangerous activities that we commonly engage in every day. Of course, the press sensationalizes every shooting and all but ignores the everyday drowning. It's not small wonder that some have such a negative opinion of guns.

    Having the freedom to protect ourselves (or not if we choose) is one of the many great things about this country. Freedom and liberty come only with a price. Most who live here would say the price is worth it. Those who don't, are free to move.
     
  19. mitosis

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    ... and if the attacker has a gun?
     
  20. bloke911

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    Ok New thread.


    How many people carry there pool with them when they ride? Pools are more dangerous then guns so... attackers should be more afraid of pools and any one who carries a pool should be safer. As long As he or she is properly trained in the use of pools.


    Thankyou:D:D:D:D

    BUSH in 2008
     
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